TRIHAN'S PROFILE

Okay, that's a fair point. My nolynch was because I honestly have no feel for who might be mafia on the basis of today's discussion. If I get time after work I'll see if I can find anything.

In the absence of anything concrete to go on today I

#nolynch.

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Okay, but you keep saying secret boss. As in, the boss of the mafia? Or, something to be taken care of once all mafia are gone? Independent roles can frequently be helpful to town as long as it is beneficial to them. Unless the mystery role's win condition is to not get lynched at 3-way LYLO, I don't see why this would be any different. You aren't theorizing what this mystery role might mean for us, you're guessing what flavor character it might be, and guessing flavor characters that have clear scum explanations (Gant-Scumcop, Gavin-Scum Forger)

Yeah, I do think Wright could be mafia if the host was creative enough. I've seen PW mafia games where Max Galactica was scum, a game where Godot was scum with Dahlia Hawthorne, a game where winston payne was scum...Wright being scum would make for an interesting story.

Sorry, when I say "secret boss" it's just a catch-all term for an unknown independent. Independent roles CAN be helpful, but they can be equally hurtful depending on who gets them and what they can do. Let's take the earlier suggestion of an independent who can choose whether to be town or mafia; would you want to lynch that person because they might eventually end up being against you?

What I'm trying to do is theorise what the role might be for us by discussing which character it's likely to be. I can't imagine the roles not having at least some resemblance to their character's function or ability. Like if we have Maya Fey I'm guessing she'll be able to talk to the dead in some fashion.

The difference between Phoenix and the other characters you mentioned is that they're all...grey. Godot's murdered, Max Galactica is a jerk...Phoenix is a nice guy and always does the right thing, even when it hurts him. (okay, after the trilogy he was a bit greyer but still).

However, I don't want to bog discussion down in my speculation so I'll keep my thoughts on the secret role to myself. You're right that it will eventually be dealt with one way or the other, I just didn't want anyone to be caught napping when we eventually discover what the role is capable of.

Have the skill turn on a switch. Make a common event that's activated by that switch. Have two nested conditional branches that check for the party possessing item X and item Y in quantities Z, then inside the second branch make your skill do its thing.

One thing we also need to keep in mind is that we haven't been told the victory conditions for each faction. Does town win if they just get rid of the Mafia or do they need to kill ??? and the independents too? The independents could have any number of win condition combinations but usually their only real requirement is that they're still alive at the end of the game. As for ???, I have no idea, but if those of us who've played the PW games put our heads together we might be able to figure it out.