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Pirate Bay Copyright Case

You've been overtly insulting people in most of your posts.
quote or no dice.

Also, please quit going back and editing your posts drastically after people respond to you.
err. I have tried to avoid doing this but hell, people get in there quick! it is either this or triple / quadruple post, what is the correct internetiquette?

(as if questioning my maturity is going to strengthen that argument!)

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nothing to do with law this time. a business is defined by commercially viable enterprise. this isn't.

I think you are confusing them with being employees of the Pirate Bay rather than being owner-operators of the Pirate Bay.
nope, that was Karsuman. I made this point!

not even going to address that last bit because you are venturing into the territory of backhanded insult. it discredits you more than me.



this doesn't half generate activity. this should happen more often!

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that'll be the laws that were last amended in April of 2004, then?

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err okay, I'm glad you're enjoying a bit of a chortle at my expense but you might want to look up EU copyright law, it's quite clear.

A business does not require a salary or a structure -- just ask the vast majority of small businesses owners across the western world!
small businesses still have structure and salary. :)

Yes, using the term "Hammurabi" over and over again does not net you any cool points.
*twice (addressed this myself so you are just talking to yourself here)

It's arguments like these that really destroy whatever meaning your other posts have, especially after lambasting us for using bad analogies.
not even analogous in nature.

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I do not pretend to know much about how EU law operates. Still, it's bullshit (in this case) and Sweden called them on it. Frankly, I find it hilarious. =)
err. you don't see any miscarriage of justice here at all? (hint: the Swedish legal system is bound to EU law so whatever they think about it they can lump it)

Hahaha. There is a reason TBP is as big as it is and it ISN'T because of loose management. TPB knew EXACTLY what they were doing. It just blew up in their face. Whether or not it remains that way has yet to be seen, but whatever. Also, stop bringing up Hammurabi in every post like it's clever or cute. Seriously
probably something to do with the massive user input and nothing to do with management of any kind but what do I know eh?

I planned to make the allusion to Hammurabi once but the confusion got ridiculous and I just had to play it. sorry if you don't like my manner but with your best interests at heart boil y'r heed

Acne

I hope a card was issued!

actually varicose testical veins is probably a less serious football injury than 'whoops I guess your shoulder won't be in the right place anymore and will always feel uncomfortable !! oh btw you can never play football again'

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Rockman, their hiding behind disorganization is a crock. I can bet you that TPB is far more organized than this very site. Yet you could easily say that Holb and I both "worked" here. It doesn't have to be business to be organized.
thanks hammurabi. since you don't actually know this is neither here nor there. it does have to be a business for them to work there, though, because this implies a business structure and salary, neither of which apply.

However! I think the TPB got what it deserved. It has continually taunted the law and felt immune from it. Anyone who goes there knows exactly what the site was for. You can make all the excuses in the world about how what they are doing isn't illegal, but it probably should be in some manner. It is a haven for piracy.
I can overstate the Hammurabi allusion but apparently not here! regardless of your moral compass they have done nothing illegal so how can they deserve a criminal conviction?

I guess we should dissolve the internet while we're at it since it's such a haven for piracy. VHS, cassette? sorry people put copyrighted material on tape time to destroy all of those too.

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The "torrents of illegal files aren't illegal files themselves" excuse is perhaps one of the most ridiculous excuses that those engaging in piracy are making. It's a terrible parsing of words, especially when the end result is the same.

Are you sure you know how most legal systems works? They don't worry about the minute details of the technology. They worry about the end result.

Owning a gun is not bad. Owning a murder weapon is. It's the same with torrents. Downloading a torrent of a linux distribution is great. Downloading a torrent of Windows Vista or Adobe Photoshop is piracy. Again, it's not the torrent itself that is illegal, but rather the act that the torrent enables.

The Pirate Bay and other organizations have a responsibility to ensure the torrents they list on their websites are legal. They don't, and in fact do quite the opposite.

this is the extent to which you have tried to address the law. let me go over it again so you can see where you're going wrong.

The "torrents of illegal files aren't illegal files themselves" excuse is perhaps one of the most ridiculous excuses that those engaging in piracy are making. It's a terrible parsing of words, especially when the end result is the same.
bears no relation to the law on copyright infringement. besides that, just wrong. torrents are perfectly legal, whether you like it or not.

Are you sure you know how most legal systems works? They don't worry about the minute details of the technology. They worry about the end result.
I know a plenty about copyright law (I have to!), and the technical details are precisely what are addressed so that there can be no misinterpretation. again you are confusing morality with legality.

Owning a gun is not bad. Owning a murder weapon is. It's the same with torrents. Downloading a torrent of a linux distribution is great. Downloading a torrent of Windows Vista or Adobe Photoshop is piracy. Again, it's not the torrent itself that is illegal, but rather the act that the torrent enables.
big ol' analogy which details a pretty irrelevant scenario but lets run with it. contradicting yourself big-time here: since making available a firearm (enabling a murder to hypothetically take place) is legal, by your own analogy enabling hypothetical copyright infringement to happen is not criminal either. you cannot be liable for a hypothetical crime.

The Pirate Bay and other organizations have a responsibility to ensure the torrents they list on their websites are legal. They don't, and in fact do quite the opposite.
no such legal obligation. already told you that they do not ensure that material is specifically illegal, they don't discriminate, idk where you are going with that.

If this were BedRock Men Network...

or nobody found the need to address a p. obvious reference?

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I have already explained my case.
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as for a debate there is none to be had, the law is clear.