WHAT ARE YOU THINKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW?

Hmm I wonder if having a no lynch night one would help at all with stuff like this. Tho if you're getting killed by scum that doesn't help at all.

Anyway Piano I'm sorry to hear that you don't get to stay in long enough to enjoy the game, that would definitely make me want to stop playing after a while.

It's probably speaks sad volumes that the most fun I had in a mafia game was the Death Note one with the self-sacrifice role that I used Night 1. My actual win condition in that game might have been something else, but, my personal win condition was to use that ability.

Of course, having loss conditions that are personal win conditions have entered into a number of my commander decks in Magic: The Gathering. I mean, I'm the kind of crazy that activates a Door of Nothingness on themselves in response to any given attack, not to mention a Triad of the Fates deck that runs Near-Death Experience as a legitimate threat.

I had dying first down to an art form, once.

@Dudes You've been usurped I'm afraid!

That's just how all free-for-all and arena-battle PVP games work dude. Whoever's viewed as most dangerous gets ganged up on and targeted first. It's called strategy.

It sounds like maybe you just dislike the entire concept of elimination PVP games. If so, that's fine. You don't have to like every type of game. But don't take it personally or blame it on the other people playing.

You are the one who caused yourself to be viewed as dangerous. Mafia is a game about affecting how people view you. The sole goal of the game is to convince people who to kick out of the game. If you were talking about being consistently ganged up on in, say, a Smash Bros. tournament, then maybe you'd have a leg to stand on, but in Mafia, the stuff that you're complaining about is literally the entire game.

I know that the majority of people in this discussion are either not playing the current mafia game or dead, but I still think it's better to have the discussion either after this mafia game or in a place where players can't get to. Many of us dislike meta, so let's not try to openly have a discussion out of thread that could influence living players.

That being said:

author=pianotm
You know who else doesn't have fun playing mafia, anymore? Jeroen_Sol. I wonder why?

That actually had nothing to do with dying early. I'm pretty sure I've died early as many times as I've died mid-game and as many times as I've died late/survived. I just found out I liked hosting/spectating much better than playing due to the lack of pressure that comes with being invested in the outcome of the game. Besides, as the ghost of mafia past I can still help hosts out with their setups and talk to them behind the scenes as the game is going on, which is three quarters of the fun, haha.

Morrowind


I'm not done yet, but I'm getting close.

I forgot how much I liked my Meek sunglasses avi~<3

author=pianotm
"Meta" is not something that is welcome in Mafia.

Isn't the entire gameplay of mafia meta? It's sort of a game about deciding who gets to play the game. I mean I guess it's not as meta as, like, Nomic. Nothing probably is as meta as Nomic, though. Last time we had a game of Nomic I won three times before signups started.

I do agree that "lynch people on day 1 because they're good" is a bad strategy, though. I lynch people on day 1 because they're bad.

(Please don't start another game of Nomic. The problem with Nomic is that it never ends.)

I can understand what piano means about being lynched first day because you're a good player being annoying. It is, I will grant you that. However, it is a words game. An arguments game. It's up to you to use the first day to argue for someone else or no-one else to be lynched. It's up to you to point out why keeping stronger players for town is a better idea than throwing them away before the night even begins. It's up to the individual player to go "Hey! You can't get rid of me because this is gonna be a problem for town in the long run! You should, instead, get rid of this person or that person!"


And you all wonder why I don't do the 'first day, lynch' thing? Because it's a waaaaaste of player potential and numbers. Gonna have a dead body come morning anyway, might as well not try to off one of the good players/power users on first day. ;p

it's an arguments game, but also a numbers game. make it work~*







*I may be watching too much Project Runway whilst ill.