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Jeroen_Sol
Nothing reveals Humanity so well as the games it plays. A game of betrayal, where the most suspicious person is brutally murdered? How savage.
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CloseOf course terms like "sensitivity police" and "choosing to be offended" are nonsense, but so is the notion that anyone who gets offended by your work has to be taken into consideration, in any way. If someone is offended by anything you do, that's their problem, not yours.
If I eat a cheese sandwich, and someone doesn't agree with the eating of cheese sandwiches, what are their options?
- They can be an adult and sit somewhere else where they won't have to see me eating a cheese sandwich.
- They can be childish and choose to ignore me and everything related to me for the rest of eternity.
- They can kindly let me know they don't like my eating of cheese sandwiches, and then let me choose whether to be respectful. I would likely feel like an asshole for continuing to eat the sandwich at this point, and would stop.
What they cannot do, however, is make a scene and scold me for eating a cheese sandwich, something which is completely within my rights to do.
If I eat a cheese sandwich, and someone doesn't agree with the eating of cheese sandwiches, what are their options?
- They can be an adult and sit somewhere else where they won't have to see me eating a cheese sandwich.
- They can be childish and choose to ignore me and everything related to me for the rest of eternity.
- They can kindly let me know they don't like my eating of cheese sandwiches, and then let me choose whether to be respectful. I would likely feel like an asshole for continuing to eat the sandwich at this point, and would stop.
What they cannot do, however, is make a scene and scold me for eating a cheese sandwich, something which is completely within my rights to do.
A big note I've taken away from this is that it needs a new title, which I've been saying for years. I get the joke, but this convo has had me thinking of 'why'.
While it is justified in context, you shouldn't have to explain the joke to people. If you do, the joke doesn't work. More over, Bison is never the punchline or joke in the stories. So the title actually derails expectations!
Talking with my friend about it now, and he really likes the deeper backstory angle, but is against walking on sensativity eggshells.
The title needs a change. That much is 100% clear. It's like calling Batman comics, " Deranged Whiteboy"
While it is justified in context, you shouldn't have to explain the joke to people. If you do, the joke doesn't work. More over, Bison is never the punchline or joke in the stories. So the title actually derails expectations!
Talking with my friend about it now, and he really likes the deeper backstory angle, but is against walking on sensativity eggshells.
The title needs a change. That much is 100% clear. It's like calling Batman comics, " Deranged Whiteboy"
author=Jeroen_Sol
Of course terms like "sensitivity police" and "choosing to be offended" are nonsense, but so is the notion that anyone who gets offended by your work has to be taken into consideration, in any way. If someone is offended by anything you do, that's their problem, not yours.
If I eat a cheese sandwich, and someone doesn't agree with the eating of cheese sandwiches, what are their options?
- They can be an adult and sit somewhere else where they won't have to see me eating a cheese sandwich.
- They can be childish and choose to igbore me and everything related to me for the rest of eternity.
What they cannot do, however, is make a scene and scold me for eating a cheese sandwich, something which is completely within my rights to do.
I'm inclined to agree 50% at least- as a creator, you can't capitulate to everyone bevause you know, it's impossible to have a 100% approval rating, but you need to be aware of what you're doing and the climate in which you release things. Dude was clearly concerned, so it's appropriate to question the content here.
Comparing people who are offended by insensitive material and voice legitimate complaints with people who are ignorant and choose to say "fuck everyone, I have rights so I'm allowed to abuse them and act like my critiques come from "SJWs" or oher groups ehich don't "deserve" recogmition is silly though.
Corfaisus
"It's frustrating because - as much as Corf is otherwise an irredeemable person - his 2k/3 mapping is on point." ~ psy_wombats
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He's the Native American equivalent of Captain Planet. You should have him be a mild-mannered businessman under a snooty, white, English manager during the day, but in times of crisis, he calls on Mother Earth and Father Sky for their blessing and becomes a superhero who brings balance back to nature.
Make him the hero everyone wants to see, like The 99. Someone who fights for justice and is beloved by all, but who is scarred by the echoing cries in his head of his ancestors who were forced out of their homelands by foreign conquerors, something he must find strength through and peace with as he attempts to keep his rich heritage proud and true in the face of an ever-changing world where his own people's way of life is being snuffed out.
You could also watch Bravestarr.
EDIT: Oh, and near the beginning of the series, have him stand near the Trail of Tears Memorial, his hand slides along the inscription and he lowers his head into the shadow, a single tear rolling down his cheek with the words "We will not fade away".
Make him the hero everyone wants to see, like The 99. Someone who fights for justice and is beloved by all, but who is scarred by the echoing cries in his head of his ancestors who were forced out of their homelands by foreign conquerors, something he must find strength through and peace with as he attempts to keep his rich heritage proud and true in the face of an ever-changing world where his own people's way of life is being snuffed out.
You could also watch Bravestarr.
EDIT: Oh, and near the beginning of the series, have him stand near the Trail of Tears Memorial, his hand slides along the inscription and he lowers his head into the shadow, a single tear rolling down his cheek with the words "We will not fade away".
Jeroen_Sol
Nothing reveals Humanity so well as the games it plays. A game of betrayal, where the most suspicious person is brutally murdered? How savage.
3885
The problem is with the whole making a scene thing. If someone tells me in private that they're not cool with something I do because of a reason they explain well, of course I'll try to keep that in mind in the future. Key words being 'in the future'. It'd be downright rude to respond to that with "I have rights, fuck off." But if they come at me in public, screaming they are offended and demanding I change what I've done in the past, I'm not going to give them an inch.
I feel like a lot of complaints by people who are offended are of the form: I am offended and you should feel bad; seize and desist. And people who react like that really don't deserve recognition.
I feel like a lot of complaints by people who are offended are of the form: I am offended and you should feel bad; seize and desist. And people who react like that really don't deserve recognition.
*Sigh* Look, when you take what people call "impact" and "intent" and you dismiss intent and proceed to remain upset at something that was not meant to upset you, I think you're indeed making a choice. That's what I was referring to.
I understand having an initial strong reaction towards something. I know that feeling. I think most of us do. What I don't understand is how bringing our pet-issues to the table will benefit our ability to create or communicate with each other. If anything, that's just going to have the opposite effect. Trust me, that rabbit hole is deeeep... Therefore. If after that initial reaction, you're unwilling to adjust your feelings according to the situation, then I'm sorry, but that's something that you'll have to deal with on your own.
...Man, I need better hobbies.
I understand having an initial strong reaction towards something. I know that feeling. I think most of us do. What I don't understand is how bringing our pet-issues to the table will benefit our ability to create or communicate with each other. If anything, that's just going to have the opposite effect. Trust me, that rabbit hole is deeeep... Therefore. If after that initial reaction, you're unwilling to adjust your feelings according to the situation, then I'm sorry, but that's something that you'll have to deal with on your own.
...Man, I need better hobbies.
SnowOwl
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If you get more upset than slightly annoyed by something someone writes or does on the internet that didn't happen in real life, you're wasting your time.
This is going nowhere, so, on another topic...
Hitman: Agent 47 now has the honour of being the only movie bad enough to make me turn it off midway through a plane ride. Usually I can sit through any movie just to kill the time but DAMN. I could write a better film with my fucking asscheeks.
Are the Hitman games this bad? I certainly hope not.
Hitman: Agent 47 now has the honour of being the only movie bad enough to make me turn it off midway through a plane ride. Usually I can sit through any movie just to kill the time but DAMN. I could write a better film with my fucking asscheeks.
Are the Hitman games this bad? I certainly hope not.
Jeroen_Sol
Nothing reveals Humanity so well as the games it plays. A game of betrayal, where the most suspicious person is brutally murdered? How savage.
3885
game --> movie: doesn't work
movie --> game: rarely works
movie --> book: doesn't work
book --> movie: works
book --> game: often works
game --> book: doesn't work
movie --> game: rarely works
movie --> book: doesn't work
book --> movie: works
book --> game: often works
game --> book: doesn't work
LockeZ
I'd really like to get rid of LockeZ. His play style is way too unpredictable. He's always like this too. If he ran a country, he'd just kill and imprison people at random until crime stopped.
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There are some good game to movie adaptations. Prince of Persia, Tomb Raider and Pokemon have all done extremely well. I heard that the Silent Hill and Resident Evil movies were also basically fine. And there are two good Final Fantasy 7 movies, though neither one actually hit theaters.
That doesn't sound like a lot, but actually, that's like a quarter of all video game movies.
Now, game to book, I dunno. The only time I've ever seen that is with Warcraft. The Warcraft books are good though. Well, some of them are good. Well, if you like Warcraft. Well, they're not worse than Star Trek books, at least...
That doesn't sound like a lot, but actually, that's like a quarter of all video game movies.
Now, game to book, I dunno. The only time I've ever seen that is with Warcraft. The Warcraft books are good though. Well, some of them are good. Well, if you like Warcraft. Well, they're not worse than Star Trek books, at least...
Unpopular opinion, but I think "Street Fighter: The movie" was actually good (The one with Van Damme, not the Anime one).... I think it did a decent job at deconstructing the characters/story of the game. And while I never had the opportunity to play "Street Fighter: The movie: The game". I think it looks cool. So, Game --> movie --> game: can work?
And the only good Resident Evil movies are the cgi ones. The ones with Mila Jovovich stink. xP (Except maybe for Apocalypse)
And the only good Resident Evil movies are the cgi ones. The ones with Mila Jovovich stink. xP (Except maybe for Apocalypse)
book -> movie : Kind of works
book -> game : Kind of works
game -> book : Kind of works
game -> movie : Kind of works
movie -> book : Kind of works
movie -> game : Kind of works
book -> game : Kind of works
game -> book : Kind of works
game -> movie : Kind of works
movie -> book : Kind of works
movie -> game : Kind of works
They can work quite well, as with anything. It's mostly whether the people doing the adaptation has the skill and love and knowledge to make it good or not. A lot of the time such things are out-sourced from the original creator, or someone who wants to take the story in a specific direction or has a specific idea of what a person would do. Honestly, it's a lot like fanfiction - you get a decent amount of great ones but you have to sort through the shit before you find them and the sheer amount of shit is just... yeah.
Anything works. But the real problem is 'who is adapting?'
Are these, say, Deadpool fans who want the Deadpool movie to not suck?
Are they DOOM fans, who pay homage to the source with a cheat code and a first-person perspective?
I really loved the DOOM movie, for trying. It still sort of failed. But damn did it try. And again, who made it? The director or writer certainly knew what they were doing--did a Producer make the call to keep Hell out of it? Did someone key in the actors about how to play zombies?
It was a mess; but it was a good effort.
Harry Potter has a long line of tripe videogames. And the movies are shadows of the books. The second Harry Potter game was probably the best. For having a broomstick to whip around Hogwarts with, at least. But nothing really gets the book right.
Lord of the Rings, however, is a thing that worked. The movies and games are perhaps, in my bored-out-of-my-mind opinion, better than the books. Those hamfisted, longwinded, history books of Middle-Earth.
Yet in the movies and games, I legitimately feel something for the characters. The games are admittedly a lot worse than the movies; though Shadows of Mordor and other random titles throughout the explosion hit their marks. The Gameboy Advance (or was it PSP) Two Towers was great.
Kind of works: a perfect summary of VG/Movie/Book adaptions.
Are these, say, Deadpool fans who want the Deadpool movie to not suck?
Are they DOOM fans, who pay homage to the source with a cheat code and a first-person perspective?
I really loved the DOOM movie, for trying. It still sort of failed. But damn did it try. And again, who made it? The director or writer certainly knew what they were doing--did a Producer make the call to keep Hell out of it? Did someone key in the actors about how to play zombies?
It was a mess; but it was a good effort.
Harry Potter has a long line of tripe videogames. And the movies are shadows of the books. The second Harry Potter game was probably the best. For having a broomstick to whip around Hogwarts with, at least. But nothing really gets the book right.
Lord of the Rings, however, is a thing that worked. The movies and games are perhaps, in my bored-out-of-my-mind opinion, better than the books. Those hamfisted, longwinded, history books of Middle-Earth.
Yet in the movies and games, I legitimately feel something for the characters. The games are admittedly a lot worse than the movies; though Shadows of Mordor and other random titles throughout the explosion hit their marks. The Gameboy Advance (or was it PSP) Two Towers was great.
Kind of works: a perfect summary of VG/Movie/Book adaptions.
Jeroen_Sol
Nothing reveals Humanity so well as the games it plays. A game of betrayal, where the most suspicious person is brutally murdered? How savage.
3885
I find that the Harry Potter games based on the books are pretty good, but the Harry Potter games based on the movie based on the book are garbage, because they lose out on a lot of cool content they could have had. I mean, the GBC Harry Potter rpgs are among my favourite rpgs of all time, while for instance the HP6 wii game is barely playable. (That boss theme of the HP rpgs is so catchy, especially the HP2 version. It makes that extremely difficult battle with Aragog so memorable.)
I'm gonna say it right now: Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets for PC fucking rules. Best Point and Click adventure ever.
