DOCTER MAFIA: STOP THOSE SNATCHER SCUM!

However, since we don't have any cops to figure out people's alignment, then we cannot make any logical deductions based on our findings. This leads me to believe that simply using our powers, we may not be able to win this game.

This game will be based on "finger of suspicion" votes more than anything, and after we've weeded out the "bad" doctors, we will be forced to lynch those that seem the most "scummy", since there is no way to roleclaim or deduce anything logically from that point on. Unless we find a way to confirm each of our roles based on placement of night actions.

On that note, there may be a better way to go about night 1, so for now I'm unlynching. Perhaps we can find a better solution that will guarantee our survival. It's hurting my brain muscle though, so I better get some sleep.

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I'm pretty sure Insane means there's 50% chance he acts as a normal doctor - protection - and 50% chance he kills whoever he's protecting. So, it's a troublesome sanity to have.
I'm wondering if we'd get any flavour/text back about what occured during the night with our actions.

Binary Even: Might get text back saying it was ineffective?
Binary Odd: Might get text back saying it was ineffective?
CPR: Will probably die unless targeted by mafia, so we'd get death text the next day OR a possible 'you were protected from an attack' text.
Insane: Failure to protect/Successfully protected or dead the next day.
Naive: Failure text?
Paranoid: Possibly a failure text or flavour text of some sort saying they were protected?
Sane: Success text?
Bodyguard Doctor: Death text the next morning or confirmation text?

Including the mafia kill, that will be either 0-3 deaths in the first night.
0 if mafia might target the CPR doctor and the insane one gets a lucky roll.
3 if mafia hit someone and both the CPR and Insane kill someone off.

Now... If we each protect a person who is assigned randomly and declared beforehand - to disable the mafia from picking and choosing - we could see a cause/effect thing tomorrow and make some assumptions about it.

Or we could each pick a secret person to protect, then on the morrow generate a random order to claim who chose what it. This would make it harder for mafia to mess with the results since there'd be no known list of who chose who and since it'd be randomised claims, they'd be less likely to be able to claim something first. It'd be in a random order, and much harder for mafia to mess with.

I prefer the second idea for second day/night phase and the original idea for first night so that the CPR and Insane might take themselves out of the picture (sorry, but having them still around on second night is a big risk if we're to go for the second plan).

author=thatbennyguy
Also, I'm calculating the odds of if we made a chain like MrChearlie suggested: doc1->doc2->doc3->...->doc1. It might work. I'll try and figure out the odds.

As I said, the odds dying are bigger (well, I didn't say it with that words), The reason I though of that was to protect the cpr, who I though that he died when protect someone who didn't was night killed, so that's why I give the idea that everyone protect everyone, if the cpr fail another will save him. But I find later that it was the one he protect the one who dies so it won't work, and besides that would work if it is a chain of only doctor, but there is scum that will love to take place in and that way they can be sure of who isn't secure, So is really a crappy idea.

And now that I thinking, the CPR is more a vigilante than a doctor. But either way, we can figure roles, if someone fail, I'm sure Cave would reveil the role, and with that we just discard possibilities, and if someone is paranoic we will find out pretty easily, otherwise the other roles would keep in secret. And like liberty said, the CPR is really a danger for us, so maybe the best it's commit suicide.

Conclusion: Ivory's plan is the best we have for now, but it would only figure out who is the paranoic and who is the CPR,Naive,Insane, in case someone of them dies, those are dangerous roles(or useless) that is better to have those cards away from the table.

I'll be out for some hours, maybe a day, we still have 4 days so there is no rush, saying this in case ivory frame me for being inactive u.u

Why would you dismiss it so out of hand, ivory? It's not a bad plan, per se, even if it isn't the best. It does keep the mafia out of the loop. That way they can't kill someone off and pin the death on the person who was supposed to be protecting that person - or the person themselves. That's the problem with playing it all out in the open - the mafia can pick and choose their targets and make themselves seem innocent by carefully deducing who to frame.
That said, random assignations might also be something to look at. Each person is randomly assigned another to protect. The resulting actions should show some kind of tells.

OH yeah, I forgot to mention something lol. I dun even know where you've got those numbers again tbg.

Chearlie-
Only alignment will be revealed upon death, not which doctor.

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Anyways, night 2 plan.

Not that I'm entirely discarding liberty's plan ok maybe i am but picking a secret person to protect will be harder for mafia AND town, and there's always the possibility that 2 docs would choose the same person so nope.

Members list:

1)Rabitz
2)Little Wing Guy
3)MrChearlie
4)Ivoryjones
5)Gourd_Clae
6)Liberty
7)Dudesoft
8)Mirrormasq
9) That Benny Guy
10)Jeroen_Sol


What I propose on day 2 is that we protect the one next to us. Meaning rabitz protects lwg, lwg protects chearlie....jeroen protects rabitz etc etc. The 2 scums obviously couldn't protect us and two of us might protect them, and with night 1's results, we could probably figure out who is who on day 3 along with the posts that they've made.

Example would be,

a-->b, b-->c, c-->d, d-->e, e-->f

Pretend b is scum among the 6. He couldn't protect c, so he'd obviously kill c since he wouldn't risk targeting someone who might be the binary even/sane etc etc.

I know this plan is kind of faulty on all sorts of levels that I will not name but that's all I could come up with atm. I could tell this on day 2 but you're never sure if you're CPR or not.

also fuck my neighbour.

Anyway, that plan will probably have merit to it indeed, ivory, but only when CPR/insane are gone. We must see how many people die tonight before we can decide whether or not to use it.

Hey what'd I miss?
ivory don't be rude to your neigbour (?)

Hmm, ivory's plan does have some merit.
gotta run, be back after lunch.

Can someone mash B already? I'm tired of seeing my name in the thread title. :P

~Swooshes Away~

EDIT: Alrighty then.