NOMIC (MAIN GAME TOPIC, NEW RULESET FOR EASIER PLAY)
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Rules:
Game Zero, initial rules:
1) (The Official Roster)
The Order of the Players is:
Adon237
CyberDagger
Fugue
ivoryjones
Jeroen_Sol
MirrorMasq
Shinan
UPRC
The Official Scribe is Trihan.
2) (Order of Play)
Order of play proceeds down the roster, circularly. So first it
is the turn of the first person on the roster, then the second,
then later on the last, then the first again, and so on, until
the game is over.
3) (Passing)
When it is a player's turn, that player may pass, by notifying the
Scribe that he is doing so via PM. The Scribe shall record this passing
in the main game topic, and play proceeds to the next player in
order (see Order of Play).
4) (Not Passing)
When it is a player's turn, and that player does not elect to pass,
he must propose a change to the rules. To do this, he PMs to
the scribe the text of the proposed change, stated clearly and
unambiguously. A proposed change may be either a modification or
repeal of an existing rule, or a new rule. Once a proposal is
made, it must be acted upon (see Acting Upon Proposals) before
play proceeds to the next player.
5) (Acting Upon Proposals)
When a player transmits a proposed change to the scribe, the scribe
must post the proposal in the main game topic. Then each player
must vote Yeah, Nay, Abstain, or any other word, by notifying the
scribe that he is voting via PM (the notification must clearly state
the proposal being voted on, and the word of the vote). Once
each player has voted, the scribe tallies the votes and announces
them (saying who voted how for each player). If there are more votes
of Yeah than any other words besides Abstain, the proposal is adopted,
and the corresponding changes made to the rules (the changes do not
actually take effect until the instant after play passes to the
next player). Otherwise, the proposal is not adopted. In either
case, play passes to the next player (see Order of Play).
6) (Resolving Disputes)
All disputes shall be resolved in good faith by the Scribe, whose
word is final. Trust the Scribe; the Scribe is your friend. (Note
that disputes generally suggest the need for proposals to add or
clarify rules to avoid the dispute happening again.)
7) (Stone, Paper, Scissors)
a) Stone breaks scissors
b) Scissors cut paper
c) Paper wraps stone
8) (Unnamed rule)
Whenever a player's rule proposal is accepted, that player gains 10 points.
1) (The Official Roster)
The Order of the Players is:
Adon237
CyberDagger
Fugue
ivoryjones
Jeroen_Sol
MirrorMasq
Shinan
UPRC
The Official Scribe is Trihan.
2) (Order of Play)
Order of play proceeds down the roster, circularly. So first it
is the turn of the first person on the roster, then the second,
then later on the last, then the first again, and so on, until
the game is over.
3) (Passing)
When it is a player's turn, that player may pass, by notifying the
Scribe that he is doing so via PM. The Scribe shall record this passing
in the main game topic, and play proceeds to the next player in
order (see Order of Play).
4) (Not Passing)
When it is a player's turn, and that player does not elect to pass,
he must propose a change to the rules. To do this, he PMs to
the scribe the text of the proposed change, stated clearly and
unambiguously. A proposed change may be either a modification or
repeal of an existing rule, or a new rule. Once a proposal is
made, it must be acted upon (see Acting Upon Proposals) before
play proceeds to the next player.
5) (Acting Upon Proposals)
When a player transmits a proposed change to the scribe, the scribe
must post the proposal in the main game topic. Then each player
must vote Yeah, Nay, Abstain, or any other word, by notifying the
scribe that he is voting via PM (the notification must clearly state
the proposal being voted on, and the word of the vote). Once
each player has voted, the scribe tallies the votes and announces
them (saying who voted how for each player). If there are more votes
of Yeah than any other words besides Abstain, the proposal is adopted,
and the corresponding changes made to the rules (the changes do not
actually take effect until the instant after play passes to the
next player). Otherwise, the proposal is not adopted. In either
case, play passes to the next player (see Order of Play).
6) (Resolving Disputes)
All disputes shall be resolved in good faith by the Scribe, whose
word is final. Trust the Scribe; the Scribe is your friend. (Note
that disputes generally suggest the need for proposals to add or
clarify rules to avoid the dispute happening again.)
7) (Stone, Paper, Scissors)
a) Stone breaks scissors
b) Scissors cut paper
c) Paper wraps stone
8) (Unnamed rule)
Whenever a player's rule proposal is accepted, that player gains 10 points.
author=OP
201. Players shall alternate in clockwise order, taking one whole turn apiece. Turns may not be skipped or passed, and parts of turns may not be omitted. All players begin with zero points.
In mail and computer games, players shall alternate in alphabetical order by surname.
(The original rule.)
(Also, I am not the best at nomic, this is just a test to learn more about how we will be doing this)
Number of Changed Rule: 201
Type of Change: amend rule
Length of Time allowed: 4 Hours for rule change suggestions, 10 hours for voting.
Proposal:
Players shall alternate in counter-clockwise order, taking one whole turn apiece. Turns can be skipped, but not given to other players. All players begin with zero points.
In mail and computer games, players shall alternate in alphabetical order by surname.
I vote aye.
I would have liked a change suggestion to keep "Parts of turns may not be omitted" (once you've decided not to skip) not that it really matters. But it might matter! Once we change what happens in a turn! (if we do that). But I think time has run out for change suggestions.
In fact I realized we need to time our rules proposals so that time zones means our opponents don't get to vote!
I would have liked a change suggestion to keep "Parts of turns may not be omitted" (once you've decided not to skip) not that it really matters. But it might matter! Once we change what happens in a turn! (if we do that). But I think time has run out for change suggestions.
In fact I realized we need to time our rules proposals so that time zones means our opponents don't get to vote!
So the turn order is reversed? I'm okay with that. Gives me more time to see some plays so I can get into the mindset.
I don't think it is reversed. Since this is a computer or mail game our turn order is still alphabetical. The real change is that turns can be skipped.
Jeroen_Sol
Nothing reveals Humanity so well as the games it plays. A game of betrayal, where the most suspicious person is brutally murdered? How savage.
3885
10 hours of voting? Well in that case I'm too late. Now will the proposal fail because 5 people didn't vote or will it pass because everyone who voted voted aye?
It'll fail because eligible voters didn't vote and it didn't get enough votes to pass.
Seems that allowing players to specify their own timeframes doesn't work so well, so I'm going to revise it.
Amendment suggestions can be made up to 24 hours after the proposal is made. Voting will begin when the amendment time is up and will also last 24 hours. That should give people plenty of time to change or vote as needed. Everyone in favour of this change?
(If this is enacted I'll allow Adon's proposal to reset to the amendment phase from when I officially change the rules to reflect it)
Seems that allowing players to specify their own timeframes doesn't work so well, so I'm going to revise it.
Amendment suggestions can be made up to 24 hours after the proposal is made. Voting will begin when the amendment time is up and will also last 24 hours. That should give people plenty of time to change or vote as needed. Everyone in favour of this change?
(If this is enacted I'll allow Adon's proposal to reset to the amendment phase from when I officially change the rules to reflect it)
Jeroen_Sol
Nothing reveals Humanity so well as the games it plays. A game of betrayal, where the most suspicious person is brutally murdered? How savage.
3885
Couldn't we make a law out of it, currently saying people can specify their own timeframes, which could then be amended?
We could, but the whole point is that it doesn't seem to be very conducive to allowing people a fair shot at commenting on/voting on proposals, which means that pretty much every proposal that's made is going to fail. :P
Jeroen_Sol
Nothing reveals Humanity so well as the games it plays. A game of betrayal, where the most suspicious person is brutally murdered? How savage.
3885
I guess that's true. :)
Jeroen_Sol
Nothing reveals Humanity so well as the games it plays. A game of betrayal, where the most suspicious person is brutally murdered? How savage.
3885
Well, in that case I suggest changing 'In mail and computer games, players shall alternate in alphabetical order by surname.' to 'In mail and computer games, players shall alternate in reverse alphabetical order by username.'
I think this is what you meant to change the law to, right?
I think this is what you meant to change the law to, right?
Yeah, I had intended to change that; I shall do so when I get home from work.
Jeroen_Sol
Nothing reveals Humanity so well as the games it plays. A game of betrayal, where the most suspicious person is brutally murdered? How savage.
3885
No, I meant I suggested that to Adon.
Yeah, that is what I meant Jeroen, let me revise my proposal possibly?
(shinan you still have to vote for this again if you agree(?))
Proposal:
In mail and computer games, players shall alternate in reverse alphabetical order by username.
(shinan you still have to vote for this again if you agree(?))
Proposal:
In mail and computer games, players shall alternate in reverse alphabetical order by username.
Jeroen_Sol
Nothing reveals Humanity so well as the games it plays. A game of betrayal, where the most suspicious person is brutally murdered? How savage.
3885
The time has been reset to suggestion time, voting will come later.
Okay, it's been more or less a whole day since I started the game and only half the players have posted. I'm not being funny here but I honestly don't want to waste my time on a game people don't actually want to play. If there isn't a bit more activity I'm gonna have to just call it, since having active players is pretty much integral to the game working properly.
I don't know whose turn it is or what we're voting on at the moment. It would seem to me it would be CyberDagger's turn but are we restarting the game with a different set of rules or what is happening?
Oh, I've noticed this thread only now. oO
And yeah, I think we should restart, because it seems that not only me wasn't saw it in time.
And yeah, I think we should restart, because it seems that not only me wasn't saw it in time.

















