MILLER'S HOLLOW MAFIA - GAME THREAD

Platinum because of his early decisions, wildwes and Trihan because of nolynch vote (it's common to use nolynch at the first day for Liberty, so it isn't enough for me to kill her), also wildwes is just... supsicious. Don't know why. You? For the same reason I've wanted to lynch you like every game before. You're hard to read because you're playing exactly the same every single game, you always are "obviously town" and it can be dangerously deceiving, so I'm always up to lynch you before I'm completely sure you're town. And this "look at me, I'm so cute I can't be villain" won't work with me.

author=CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
i have been ignoring you. i am still willing to lynch zeuzio. i just want him to post his reads first. if he does not do this in a sufficient amount of time, he will be killed anyway. it is law.

Well thanks for ignoring me then! .....
That paragraph also applies to PA, though.

author=Yellow Magic
what in god's name are you even talking about

Completely misunderstood what you were saying in the heat of the moment. Don't worry about it.

Regarding Zeuzio: Does no one else find it odd that he voted for himself while maintaining his Townie status? That doesn't really seem like Werewolf behaviour to me.

Regarding Voting: So much for finding a loophole. I'm still not sure why CAVE_DOG is being voted for election by most people though (i.e. would love to hear reasoning).

A couple of players haven't been posting recently, but I wonder whether they're just inactive due to weekend stuff or are hiding something sinister.....

author=Liberty
Does it matter if I have or have not? People can play close to the chest. Hell, werewolves are gonna lie about who they think are guilty so while you can discern some things, you can't rely on what people say. First day problems - no real information.

yes. it does matter. if you die, it is important to know what you were thinking. scum generally do not kill people for no reason, but rather on what has happened in the game up till the moment they perform the night kill. understanding the motivations behind a night kill is important. looking at a flipped player's interactions and arguments is important in finding scum. unless they spent all of their time fruitlessly trying to game the setup.

That's my issue. Sure, the second day onward we can't afford to wait, but we tend to have more information on the second day due to people claiming, night actions and the first night kill, if it occurs. First day, however, we can be careful and not cut down our numbers.

so basically the idea is that we massclaim day 2. why are you endorsing such a terrible plan. why not just massclaim right now in that case (I am the double voter)

Say he flips town or werewolf. What does this really tell us? If he's town it loses us a comrade, especially if he's someone of importance like a doctor. We'd be shooting ourselves in the foot.
If he's town then we look at his guesses. What do they tell us? That he thought x was guilty or innocent. How the fuck would he know? It's the first fucking day. No-one knows shit beyond their own innocence or guilt.

he claimed vanilla, so if he's town, that's what he is. actually his 'guesses' would not tell us that. Have you read zuezio's posts? He has made two town-calls and no scumcalls. if he's town, we would primarily gain information from analyzing the voting reasons and patterns of players. especially the reactions to his VT claim. his town-reads, while helpful, are not crucial. also, I know the alignments of several players on the first day already. Also I am very strong.

And if he were werewolf that still tells us nothing. It does net us one less threat for town but the chances of him being werewolf is about 3 or 4/13. And his guesses and whatnot? If he's any kind of werewolf he'll be playing the field, casting suspicion on his allies as well as innocent people just so we can't get information from his death. Standard play for werewolves.

these numbers do not exist in a vaccuum. this "4/13" business (yeah, there's no way there's a four-man scumteam, sorry. probably 3. maybe 2.) entirely negates the fact that the case for zeuzio has not been formulated and pushed by a random number generator but by words with logic behind them made by a person who has gleaned the alignment of several players. evidence to suggest his guilt already fucks up this probability business to an unimaginable degree. again, we would not be looking at zeuzio's actions alone as if he was playing mafia with himself, but his interactions with the rest of the thread.

Regarding Zeuzio: Does no one else find it odd that he voted for himself while maintaining his Townie status? That doesn't really seem like Werewolf behaviour to me.

i've seen it happen. It also worked, to a degree, to get people to unvote him. You are even not suspecting him right now because of it!! Also: ask your self this. Does voting yourself and essentially 'giving up' make sense from a town perspective?

Can't really say much as I'm at work so will make this quick: yeah, I'm not suspecting him as much because his behaviour seems weird from a werewolf perspective

however I agree that lynching someone is bbetter than a nolynch, and as there is little time left to convince anyone to vote for who I think is werewolf, I might as well bandwagon.

#lynch Zeuzio
I'm not changing my election vote though. Not that it matters lol come ON guys.

And this is another reason why my vote stands as it is, let's lynch Platinum today.

What Id like to know is why people elected Cave? I mean, there's literally no reasons given, just a sudden spate of elections? I definitely feel there's something scummy there. Hell, I don't think Cave is the scum, he might just be part of a werewolf plot to use him, but I do think some of the electors are werewolves.

You asked, Cave, there's my answer - Gourd_Clae, CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK, Zeuzio, PlatinumAshes, Adon237

I don't think Zeuzio is, nor Cave, so that leaves Gourd, Platinum and Adon on my suspect list, along with Happy (I've not shaken the scum feel I got at the very beginning from your first few posts.)