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LockeZ
I'd really like to get rid of LockeZ. His play style is way too unpredictable. He's always like this too. If he ran a country, he'd just kill and imprison people at random until crime stopped.
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CloseNow if only bulmbabriefs and ryareisender would suddenly say that in a game design thread
author=pianotm
It's actually a little unfair because LockeZ' role requires him to roleclaim in an offhand kind of way from the onset, but since he's the only one doing it, it has to be him. LockeZ is town.
??? Huh? Did I miss something? How do you know he's town?
author=wildwesauthor=pianotm??? Huh? Did I miss something? How do you know he's town?
It's actually a little unfair because LockeZ' role requires him to roleclaim in an offhand kind of way from the onset, but since he's the only one doing it, it has to be him. LockeZ is town.
Go to the OP and read the roles. Then think about how LockeZ has been voting his lynches. Yesterday, he was following other people's votes until I objected to Cave. He immediately switched to Cave and stuck with it. There's one role that follows that pattern, and LockeZ is the only one following it.
oh good someone else doesn't get it I'm not just retarded
Yeah, I read through the roles many more times than three yet I still have no idea what you're talking about.
Yeah, I read through the roles many more times than three yet I still have no idea what you're talking about.
author=CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
read it three times. no idea what you're talking about..
He's town. It's really easy to figure out. It's written plain as day in the original post. Anyone with basic deductive reasoning can figure it out. Regardless of what ideas you have, I am not pursuing a case against him, unless you can demonstrate he's only pretending.
LockeZ' been bandwagoning because it's the easiest way to make a parrot vote without looking like scum.
Guitarist? Doesn't it say that the Guitarist take's an attorney's vote to- ohhhh I see now
Though I'm not sure if I'm interpreting that wrong or you are. I interpreted that as an attorney needs to vote to lynch the guitarist before he can be lynched, while you interpreted it as him being unable to lynch unless an attorney's voting to lynch as well. Okay I see now. Question is, which interpretation's right?
Though I'm not sure if I'm interpreting that wrong or you are. I interpreted that as an attorney needs to vote to lynch the guitarist before he can be lynched, while you interpreted it as him being unable to lynch unless an attorney's voting to lynch as well. Okay I see now. Question is, which interpretation's right?
author=pianotmauthor=CAVE_DOG_IS_BACKHe's town. It's really easy to figure out. It's written plain as day in the original post. Anyone with basic deductive reasoning can figure it out. Regardless of what ideas you have, I am not pursuing a case against him, unless you can demonstrate he's only pretending.
read it three times. no idea what you're talking about..
author=pianotm
Fine. Guitarist has to vote with the attorneys.
you're reading the role backwards. a guitarist can only get lynched if an attorney is voting them.
also lol
Guitarist-takes an attorney's vote to lynch.
Mine is correct. "Takes an attorney's vote to lynch". "Takes" requires an action by the subject. In otherwords, the guitarist must act before the action described by "takes" can be completed.
Why would think this means the guitarist can only be lynched by the attorney? Why would either of you think that?
author=wildwes
Guitarist? Doesn't it say that the Guitarist take's an attorney's vote to- ohhhh I see now
Though I'm not sure if I'm interpreting that wrong or you are. I interpreted that as an attorney needs to vote to lynch the guitarist before he can be lynched, while you interpreted it as him being unable to lynch unless an attorney's voting to lynch as well. Okay I see now. Question is, which interpretation's right?
Mine is correct. "Takes an attorney's vote to lynch". "Takes" requires an action by the subject. In otherwords, the guitarist must act before the action described by "takes" can be completed.
Why would think this means the guitarist can only be lynched by the attorney? Why would either of you think that?
Furthermore, the wording doesn't stop him from voting to lynch if the attorney's aren't voting to lynch. It merely requires him to take the attorney's votes.
LockeZ
I'd really like to get rid of LockeZ. His play style is way too unpredictable. He's always like this too. If he ran a country, he'd just kill and imprison people at random until crime stopped.
5958
I think you are overthinking things. I think it means "requires an attorney's vote to lynch." As in "that takes balls" or "it takes me three days to write an essay" or "it takes one to know one."
In the interest of not looking like scum who's trying to manipulate people into believing lies, that's not my role, anyway.
In the interest of not looking like scum who's trying to manipulate people into believing lies, that's not my role, anyway.
Yeah, I'm sorry piano but that is also what I got from reading it - that only if the attourney votes can he be lynched. It adds protection to him on day votes that wouldn't be afforded otherwise. What you're saying, that he can only vote what an attourney votes, is just too limiting for a player. I mean, that's not to say you're not right, but there would have been less complicated and more straight-forward ways of saying that if it were true.
Like "Must vote the same as the attorney/can only vote on those that the attorney votes/etc".
"Takes an attorney's vote to lynch" means that he can only be killed during day by your vote. This doesn't limit his voting power and still gives an out for mafia to kill him off - by using a night kill (or, hell, turning him so that only if you are suspicious of him can he be lynched).
That said, it's no proof that he is a Guitarist - don't get too caught up in that idea. It could be that he just figures following your lead is a good way to look like town. If anything, it makes him more suspicious.
Like "Must vote the same as the attorney/can only vote on those that the attorney votes/etc".
"Takes an attorney's vote to lynch" means that he can only be killed during day by your vote. This doesn't limit his voting power and still gives an out for mafia to kill him off - by using a night kill (or, hell, turning him so that only if you are suspicious of him can he be lynched).
That said, it's no proof that he is a Guitarist - don't get too caught up in that idea. It could be that he just figures following your lead is a good way to look like town. If anything, it makes him more suspicious.
Mr_SuNa
50
It's not your role? I thought Piano actually had something there, all the same I think the fact you told us it was not your role puts you in more of a town light than a scum light, as was your goal.
Well, you know, he could be lying about it not being his role. You shouldn't instantly believe anything anyone says, SuNa. :facepalm:
That said, there was something in the OP that is... worrying.
Killers are chosen from among the citizens after the other roles are determined. For nightkills, one among the mafia must be chosen to carry out the deed.
Now, I may be over-thinking this but does this mean that Mafia was chosen from those who have a role already? That is, that roles were passed out then Mafia was taken from those roles? Because if so that would mean just claiming a role wouldn't stop you from being Mafia - so even if LockeZ was a guitarist, that wouldn't preclude him from being Mafia.
Again, I may be overthinking this but it was something that jumped out at me straight away. Can people with powers have Mafia alignment? It is something worth considering - that way the only people we can really trust to be town are puds and piano.
...I'm asking clarification from Game Host here - if possible, please clear this confusion up.
That said, there was something in the OP that is... worrying.
Killers are chosen from among the citizens after the other roles are determined. For nightkills, one among the mafia must be chosen to carry out the deed.
Now, I may be over-thinking this but does this mean that Mafia was chosen from those who have a role already? That is, that roles were passed out then Mafia was taken from those roles? Because if so that would mean just claiming a role wouldn't stop you from being Mafia - so even if LockeZ was a guitarist, that wouldn't preclude him from being Mafia.
Again, I may be overthinking this but it was something that jumped out at me straight away. Can people with powers have Mafia alignment? It is something worth considering - that way the only people we can really trust to be town are puds and piano.
...I'm asking clarification from Game Host here - if possible, please clear this confusion up.
Mr_SuNa
50
I didn't say it absolved him of suspicion, but it would have been extremely easy to claim the role, although I believe CAVE's, Wes' and Liberty's interpretation of the Guitarist, it just seems easier if he was scum to accept the role and go with it.
MajoracanKing
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author=Liberty
Now, I may be over-thinking this but does this mean that Mafia was chosen from those who have a role already? That is, that roles were passed out then Mafia was taken from those roles? Because if so that would mean just claiming a role wouldn't stop you from being Mafia - so even if LockeZ was a guitarist, that wouldn't preclude him from being Mafia.
I was thinking the same thing, but I think I read something later in the OP that made that seem unlikely. I'll check for it tomorrow as it is 2 AM.
