PHOENIX MAFIA: ONLINE TURNABOUT

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Actually I think it was just the fact the roles were split into two categories: mafia and town. I figured they couldn't be mafia if they were one of the roles listed under town. (Except for an event in which the mafia mastermind turns them mafia).

But some of the roles have oddly specific wording. Like the acrobat ,"Unable to be targeted by any abilities save for nightkills or attorney powers". Attorney powers would only kill some one if they were mafia. Unless of course it was going to be a mislynch, which is probably what that meant. It could be taken either way though. I think?

Cavedog: "it's a role claim."
Either you're pretty smart or you just guessed XD
Yellow Magic
Could I BE any more Chandler Bing from Friends (TM)?
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Thinking about it, there are quite a few Citizen roles. Seems a bit unnecessary to put so much effort into so many only for not all of them to be valid...
LockeZ
I'd really like to get rid of LockeZ. His play style is way too unpredictable. He's always like this too. If he ran a country, he'd just kill and imprison people at random until crime stopped.
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Majora, I think that just means the defense attorney can investigate them, and the mafia can kill them, but everyone else's powers don't work on them.

Speaking of which: Puddor, did you learn that anyone was for sure town last night? You don't have to reveal it if you don't think it's safe, but looking over the role list, it occurs to me that if there's a doctor or programmer, they probably would benefit from knowing who to use their powers on. And any other people with investigative powers would also benefit from not doing redundant research.
Yeah, especially the roles that are able to protect others from being taken over, it's a good idea to get them protecting asap so that we don't lose people to being turned.
Puddor
if squallbutts was a misao category i'd win every damn year
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author=pianotm
Dudesoft, you may want to read the past few posts before you proceed to insert your foot inside your mouth.


This is the most Edgeworth thing you've said. I think I'm in love.



Anyway, joking aside, yes, I can confirm two town players. Judging by the direction the thread has gone in my absence and my discussions with my client, my suspicions stand exactly the same. I'm going to double check the evidence before I make any moves.
Puddor
if squallbutts was a misao category i'd win every damn year
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I'll add that there's no reason for me to reveal either of said town roles. My client obviously knows that I know they're town, and I've got no reason to put the other one at risk.
That's understandable. Best to keep them tucked away safely until such knowledge is needed. Even if the doctor or programmer could protect them during the night phase, that doesn't mean that they can't be turned.

That said, I'm wondering if your investigative skill is a sure thing or not - remember that the Mastermind will look as though they're town to Investigative roles and that there may be a Framer on the Mafia crew who can skew investigations, too.
It's best for you and piano not to jump in too trustingly just in case.
LockeZ
I'd really like to get rid of LockeZ. His play style is way too unpredictable. He's always like this too. If he ran a country, he'd just kill and imprison people at random until crime stopped.
5958
Well, I mean, saying they're town doesn't put them at risk. Every single person in this thread is already claiming to be town, and the scum already have a full list of everyone who is town (it's everyone who's not them). You'd be providing information to the town without providing any information to the scum.

I wouldn't ask you to reveal their roles, which would put them at risk.
Puddor
if squallbutts was a misao category i'd win every damn year
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Yeah, but as we revealed yesterday, my client is not immune to nightkills or lynches, and even if I don't say which one is my client, the mafia may decide to kill one them so I can't happily conspire with them in the detention center.



pianotm
The TM is for Totally Magical.
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Puddor, this is all very nice, and I wouldn't dream of asking you to endanger your clients, but we are supposed to be scum hunting. If you have two confirmed town, that should at least narrow down your suspicions for who's scum. Are you at least willing to share some theories?

LockeZ
I'd really like to get rid of LockeZ. His play style is way too unpredictable. He's always like this too. If he ran a country, he'd just kill and imprison people at random until crime stopped.
5958
That's fair. If several were listed at once and none of the ones listed were your client, I think it would be safe. Maybe that can be done tomorrow. Unless something weird happens to make that not a good idea. Or they all die.
Puddor
if squallbutts was a misao category i'd win every damn year
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I'm aware of that. I'm also aware that if I get too triggerhappy and objection vote the wrong guy, we won't have any more confirmed town tomorrow (or confirmed scum!) because I won't be able to investigate (unless we have an officer).



As it stands, LockeZ is on my scumdar. MajoracanKing and wildwes are also up there. I'd like to hear the prosecution's thoughts on this.
pianotm
The TM is for Totally Magical.
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Yes, with the current consensus on LockeZ's role, I'm a little disappointed that I actually couldn't confirm him town, so yes, he's back on my radar. MK, I have no solid read on, but I'm not opposed to the notion of him being scum. I've looking at wildwes too. Not as strongly as LockeZ, but I'm definitely suspicious.

pianotm
The TM is for Totally Magical.
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Although, I do grant LockeZ a few points for not jumping on my role drop.
Puddor
if squallbutts was a misao category i'd win every damn year
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Yeah, that struck me as weird and did considerably lessen my suspicions. LockeZ can be particularly aggressive even in normal forum standings, so this may just be his playstyle.
Okay since it's been silent there's something I want to bring up that's been bothering me.

I looked through the roles again just to check if I missed something but apparently I haven't. There are, to my knowledge, no item-gifting roles.

However. Someone gifted me a cookie.
I was told that I could eat the cookie at any time during the day phase and that I was allowed to tell about it. I'm not sure if I want to eat the cookie or not - I'm going to leave that decision up to town (since the majority of us are town currently). I figure voting on it now is better than doing so later when there might be more mafia about, so...

Do I chance it and eat the cookie guys? I have no idea what the effect could be - either good or bad. All I know is that I can eat it and that it was a gift.
Ratty and dude are too quiet (I bit hypocritical, but still).

People who I think are town: Dude, Lib, Cave, wildwes
People that are more likely to be scum: Lockez,
People I don't know about: Ratty, Suna, Yellow. is that everyone?

Dude made the mistake of accusing piano (If he was scum I hope he'd of read the op better. Lib seems productive enough in the manner of helping town (though she seems a bit off). Cave seems towny. Wildwes is acting how he does when he is town (Don't think I've seen him as scum before.)

Lockez needs to have an eye kept on him.

Ratty hasn't posted enough for me to know. Suna seems to be going along with people (he did mention lurkers though). I don't know about Yellow.

I'm a uzhqefusmfad, I just didn't want to make myself a target, but that is better then town wasting time on me. I also know who the husuxmzfq is, but won't blow their cover unless they are about to be lynched.

Oh boy I overslept so much there are gonna be like 60 notices-
oh
only about 20.
Right, I have things to go do but before I go I'm gonna ask: why do some of you find me suspicious?