[POLL] WHY YOU NO NOMINATE FOR 2015 MISAOS YET, RMN?

This thread makes me feel bad for not completing enough games, and not reviewing enough games. I could certainly organize my time a lot better to even get 1 review out a week. Then again, my life's passion isn't to become a reviewer, even though I think it benefits the community greatly.

This is why I always make sure to nominate and vote differently on each category unless a game does something better in all the other categories. I wouldn't be averse to just getting the GOTY nominees removed from the other categories, though.

We were looking at limiting the voting for games to only 2/3 categories per game. That is, not letting you nominate/vote the same game for all the categories.


Perhaps a good idea is to take the nominations that are made and then have a small group play them, then pick from them the best of that category and allow people to vote for those. So say each category has 10 nominations, then it'd get cut to 5 and those would be the ones that were voted on, with a limit of one game in 3 categories, tops.

It'd weed out games that don't fit (there were a few that got through last year that had nothing to do with the category and had to be removed) and help balance things so that no one game would sweep.

author=Darken
No I'm making a comparison to prove a point. A lot of the categories just balloon into a winner takes all situation where of course goty gets best graphics/sound/story because it's the best game. Like what the fuck happened in 2012? Oh Star Stealing Prince stomped everything ok cool. But what had interesting use of RTP? what had the most innovative battle system? Most progressive? What has the worst case of never getting finished? The point of the awards becomes less about who da best, but how do you sum up the whole year?

I think this is part of the reason why I created the Misaos thread, so that people who haven't played that many games won't just vote for that one popular game they've played, and that they'd feel more encouraged to play these other interesting games and realize that they should probably think more about who they vote for.

author=Liberty
We were looking at limiting the voting for games to only 2/3 categories per game. That is, not letting you nominate/vote the same game for all the categories.

That might be cool.

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author=SgtMettool
This probably sounds flawed as heck, but what if a game can only be voted on in the top three-ish categories that it was nominated for? For example, a game gets nominated for 10 categories, but can only contend in the three categories that it was nominated for the most?

It's an idea to help prevent "sweepers" but I'm sure there would need to be a bit more to it.

This is cool, too.

We've already added some nice categories like Most Puzzling Game, Most Horrific Game, Most Humorous Game and so on, so I think those specific categories you've been yearning for have been satisfied somewhat. We can add more next year. I think combining that with the "2-3 awards for a single game" rule and we might have ourselves a better system, if mods agree. "Might" being the key word.

But personally, I still enjoy the Misaos how they are. It's like Christmas - not everyone loves it.

author=CashmereCat
We've already added some nice categories like Most Puzzling Game, Most Horrific Game, Most Humorous Game and so on, so I think those specific categories you've been yearning for have been satisfied somewhat. We can add more next year. I think combining that with the "2-3 awards for a single game" rule and we might have ourselves a better system, if mods agree. "Might" being the key word.

o ok I was not aware of this. I must have looked at the wrong nominate list then? But yeah more in that direction is good.

author=Sooz
HOME is popular on tumblr because it's a fixfic for OFF, which has a (deserved) huuuuuuge fandom. It isn't popular among RMN regulars because it honestly isn't very good or notable when decoupled from the fandom.

Yeah, I'm aware of that backstory. Still, I do think it's a little strange that the community's unconscious response has essentially been to ignore it completely and let Tumblr/other fans set the entire narrative on it.

@ nhubi: Thanks for the detailed reply. In fact, I think it might well be best to just move the engines, contest maps and such into their separate, "non-game download" category, so that they wouldn't distract from the real games that need reviewing.

As for defunct downloads, it's certainly a thing that needs to happen as well. I've already stumbled upon an example with U.S.G. ~A New Beginning~: a featured game, where not a single download appears to work. If there are hundreds of such examples, it certainly needs to get sorted out sooner rather than later.

In fact, can we make it an unofficial goal to clean these up and get the reviewed percentage to, say, 80%, by the website's 10th anniversary? That would be a nice round number to form an official Community Awards in a permanent, agreed-upon capacity, one that would also decide on both the "inside" categories we have for fun,and the "professional" categories like interface, while Misaos would be more about the categories everyone can have a reasonably informed opinion about.

NTC I can help you with USG, the gamejolt page moved.

USG

In regard to the changing of categories, I'm not sure the upside is worth the work for the admins. I think we just aim for a good percentage, and 80% was about what I was thinking and just try to keep it there.

There are always going to be pages that can't be reviewed for a number of reasons, but yes I would like to reduce the number of defunct ones.

Sooz
That's a lot of reviews

About 500 given the current figures, but of course that will continue to increase as games are added. it's high but not unreachable.

Nor should we, the standards we have a flexible enough for anyone, and hardly onerous.

Though Lib do you want to contact our Lord and ask him to link the correct USG gamejolt page to the one on the USG gamepage? Or actually up a version stored here. Since Hima hasn't posted in about 2 years I'm assuming the dev is AWOL.

That'll be one less of the defuncts to list.

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