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[FINISHED] KLOE THE MURDERER MAFIA
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Gourd_Clae
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ClosePlayers that are playing rather aggressively + seem to agree on everything: Neversilent and Piano. I'm curious how long they've been agreeing so I may look into that.
Neversilent came off as innocent at first, but their connection to piano has seemed very obvious? Maybe I'm paranoid, but piano also didn't feel NS fit into the category of people who act on the fence before lynching someone anyway as well, which seemed like strange thing to mention? We've only lynched one person so far this game. Any other votes are pretty irrelevant since no one is dead for them.
Just thought I'd state my feelings so far~
Neversilent came off as innocent at first, but their connection to piano has seemed very obvious? Maybe I'm paranoid, but piano also didn't feel NS fit into the category of people who act on the fence before lynching someone anyway as well, which seemed like strange thing to mention? We've only lynched one person so far this game. Any other votes are pretty irrelevant since no one is dead for them.
Just thought I'd state my feelings so far~
Also, look, Gourd Notes!
The Gourd Notes
InfectionFiles got a key!
rabitZ was modkilled! He was the seer.
Frogge was lynched
YM died he was the Amnesiac!
Odd got a Farmer's Hat!
We stumbled upon a ravaged farmhouse. The cellar was locked. (IF 's key didn't work.)
The Gourd Notes
InfectionFiles got a key!
rabitZ was modkilled! He was the seer.
Frogge was lynched
YM died he was the Amnesiac!
Odd got a Farmer's Hat!
We stumbled upon a ravaged farmhouse. The cellar was locked. (IF 's key didn't work.)
IF, I don't understand why you're pointing a finger at Shinan? I think he's explained himself. The only misgiving I have is, duh, he could be lying, and Kloe kind of implicated him!
I had to catch up from a few pages so when I saw what was going down I agreed with it. I've found Shinan suspicious from the get go. The way he's playing and what he does. He never seems to respond with any real answers but rather starts to direct the heat elsewhere.
I love you, Gourd but I think it's weird you don't talk.much unless someone mentions.your name or there is a high vote for lynching someone. Most of the time you're quiet which piano says is your style but that doesn't help us think any different. Now that you're somewhat pointing fingers at piano and a possible connection with NS it's a gambit that you two could be working together. Since you two know each others play style so well.
It's easy bouncing off one another, directing blame but not really doing anything about it beyond a few simple lines.
I feel that Shinan has to go one way or the other, if only for the random lynch votes without barely any substance.
Also, if you recall Didn't trust NeverSilent from the beginning and even voted to lynch based on very little evidence. So we may be on the same boat there.
I dont think he's connected to piano though. Piano makes good points so it's easy for people to follow him.
I love you, Gourd but I think it's weird you don't talk.much unless someone mentions.your name or there is a high vote for lynching someone. Most of the time you're quiet which piano says is your style but that doesn't help us think any different. Now that you're somewhat pointing fingers at piano and a possible connection with NS it's a gambit that you two could be working together. Since you two know each others play style so well.
It's easy bouncing off one another, directing blame but not really doing anything about it beyond a few simple lines.
I feel that Shinan has to go one way or the other, if only for the random lynch votes without barely any substance.
Also, if you recall Didn't trust NeverSilent from the beginning and even voted to lynch based on very little evidence. So we may be on the same boat there.
I dont think he's connected to piano though. Piano makes good points so it's easy for people to follow him.
I also may seem to latch to lynch votes on a bandwagon but that's usually because I feel strange about said person and when I see others thinking the same way I join in for strength in numbers.
I dont always speak my mind about certain folks because I dont want to be a target. Ratty has been my focus as well, but I feel the same about Shinan. I think it would be pointless to vote for Ratty again since Shinan is on the chopping block. I want others to come to that against Ratty before I continue that crusade.
I dont always speak my mind about certain folks because I dont want to be a target. Ratty has been my focus as well, but I feel the same about Shinan. I think it would be pointless to vote for Ratty again since Shinan is on the chopping block. I want others to come to that against Ratty before I continue that crusade.
LockeZ
I'd really like to get rid of LockeZ. His play style is way too unpredictable. He's always like this too. If he ran a country, he'd just kill and imprison people at random until crime stopped.
5958
Kloe breaking the rules of her own game makes me sad. But more in a facepalm way than a ragequit way. I'll choose to take her statement at face value - NeverSilent is probably town. It's not really confirmed (it could just be like "He hasn't said anything incriminating yet that I saw!") but it's a pretty reasonable assumption.
I'm not reading anything into the cannibalism jokes. It struck me more as Shinan trying to intentionally act like scum in the roleplaying to provoke a reaction than anything else. Kloe eating RabitZ could just as easily be pure coincidence or even intentionally misleading. That said, Shinan is still in my top three scum list from day one simply for the amount of time he spent RPing instead of interacting with other players.
What else did you want my opinion on? I feel like I might've missed something.
So no, I actually think quick defensive responses are more of a town thing usually.
I'm not reading anything into the cannibalism jokes. It struck me more as Shinan trying to intentionally act like scum in the roleplaying to provoke a reaction than anything else. Kloe eating RabitZ could just as easily be pure coincidence or even intentionally misleading. That said, Shinan is still in my top three scum list from day one simply for the amount of time he spent RPing instead of interacting with other players.
What else did you want my opinion on? I feel like I might've missed something.
author=Crystal-MintMaybe this wasn't super obvious, but when I voted to lynch you yesterday and then cancelled it in the same post it was purely to see how you'd react to it.
I'm not really saying that I'm unsure, just that we should probably wait for an explanation before jumping to conclusions! Maybe Shinan just thought it was self-explanatory and didn't realize it wasn't (just like in the case of LockeZ).
author=Crystal-MintWhen I was scum in the last game, and Ratty and TangledLion started going crazy, I was very deliberately slow with my responses. I wanted to appear helpful and seem to be contributing ideas, but I needed to carefully gauge other people's reactions first, and I wanted to make sure I wasn't accidentally directing the discussion back to the helpful topic about finding scum if other people had moved on to talking about something else.author=Ratty524Oh yeah, I've been really active today due to having a lot of free time at school! Most of my classes were basically free periods so I just saw your post right away ;v;author=Crystal-Mint
Is quick here referring to my speed at responding? I was just really confused by your accusation xD
That and you were the first to reply to it.
So no, I actually think quick defensive responses are more of a town thing usually.
I actually post when I get a chance. I hadn't realized someone mentioned me! Well, I guess piano said my name but that was actually a bit ago.
And I wasn't even here for the end period high lynch vote yesterday >.<
Shinan explained his random lynches. He said it was to gauge reactions which isn't a super scum thing to do. I understand he's only just recently explain himself, but he did explain. That said, I understand that he could still be suspect.
Imagine this: there's a huge amount of time left, and lynches are piling up. Why? What do we get from that? We lose time to talk and gather information. Any time-related problems you have with me are a coincidence, but the fact that I speak up when lynches pile up isn't.
And I wasn't even here for the end period high lynch vote yesterday >.<
Shinan explained his random lynches. He said it was to gauge reactions which isn't a super scum thing to do. I understand he's only just recently explain himself, but he did explain. That said, I understand that he could still be suspect.
Imagine this: there's a huge amount of time left, and lynches are piling up. Why? What do we get from that? We lose time to talk and gather information. Any time-related problems you have with me are a coincidence, but the fact that I speak up when lynches pile up isn't.
For those who don't know, an Amnesiac tends to be a role where they choose to be mafia or town but are originally neither.
O.o NeverSilent hardly posts to begin with, as it is. My reasons for not suspecting NS are entirely meta: he's playing exactly the way he played the game I hosted. If anything, I'm agreeing an awful lot with LockeZ. I'm sure you'll find a ton of scum-tells if you scour my posts where I interact with LockeZ. I have barely interacted with NS at all, and the only times I have was to defend him, which in itself is also a scum-tell. Gourd, if you suspect me, these are the facts you need to point out. Not a connection that you're going to have a hard time proving. My non-interaction with NS, while scummy, can be chalked up to us posting at different times. You'll have a much easier time making me look like scum if you try to tie me to LockeZ. After all, I agreed with him on the roleplaying, backed off of my vote on him while giving no reasonable explanation beyond "He looks town", and he and I tended to rebound off each others scum hunting on Frogge.
What I'm wondering is, how can you not suspect Shinan? Please, Gourdy, by all means. If you can show me how Shinan's reasonably demonstrated that he's not scum, I am all ears. That post about how a common scum tactic being to sit on the fence doesn't count. Anyone can quote facts to make x/self look less scummy.
What I'm wondering is, how can you not suspect Shinan? Please, Gourdy, by all means. If you can show me how Shinan's reasonably demonstrated that he's not scum, I am all ears. That post about how a common scum tactic being to sit on the fence doesn't count. Anyone can quote facts to make x/self look less scummy.
LockeZ
I'd really like to get rid of LockeZ. His play style is way too unpredictable. He's always like this too. If he ran a country, he'd just kill and imprison people at random until crime stopped.
5958
author=Gourd_Clae
Players that are playing rather aggressively + seem to agree on everything: Neversilent and Piano. I'm curious how long they've been agreeing so I may look into that.
Pianotm has been acting like a corporate yesman every time someone points out that someone's acting scummy. It's not just Neversilent that he's been agreeable with. He values my input a little too much. I think he knows I'm aggressive and is trying to get me to start another bandwagon he can jump onto.
I will oblige.
#lynch Pianotm
LockeZ
I'd really like to get rid of LockeZ. His play style is way too unpredictable. He's always like this too. If he ran a country, he'd just kill and imprison people at random until crime stopped.
5958
Pianotm, why do you think Shinan is scum again? Sorry, it's 20% of the way through day two and we're on page 34.
LockeZ
I'm not reading anything into the cannibalism jokes. It struck me more as Shinan trying to intentionally act like scum in the roleplaying to provoke a reaction than anything else. Kloe eating RabitZ could just as easily be pure coincidence or even intentionally misleading. That said, Shinan is still in my top three scum list from day one simply for the amount of time he spent RPing instead of interacting with other players.
Which he absolutely has not done until we started pressing him for a response.
XD I was just throwing it out there piano I have no strong suspects in any direction.
I agree that the case for Shinan is very good, but his counter claim explains himself very well. In fact, I thought that Kloe DID implicate him. I just don't understand why you are all risking a lynch so early.
O.o I don't know if that's something you should say XD
I agree that the case for Shinan is very good, but his counter claim explains himself very well. In fact, I thought that Kloe DID implicate him. I just don't understand why you are all risking a lynch so early.
author=pianotm
I'm sure you'll find a ton of scum-tells if you scour my posts where I interact with LockeZ.
O.o I don't know if that's something you should say XD
Honestly, I'd be suspicious of anyone that didn't talk much. And I believe the only person is you now. So it isn't so much of what you're doing but really just timing and frequency. Because I would imagine if someone was mafia they would try to talk and least as possible as to not say anything incriminating or off.
And of course, that was good timing because that doesn't help my way of thinking. Probably why I think that way about it in the first place.
While this doesn't just necessarily pertain to you, it is a good tactic. But I don't want to base that thought simply because you don't have the time to post. I get that. But it's also your playstyle to begin with if I can be meta about that.
It's definitely a safe way to go through a good portion of the game without being fingered(lol) and seem helpful or at least innocent.
When I was scum in the last game, and Ratty and TangledLion started going crazy, I was very deliberately slow with my responses. I wanted to appear helpful and seem to be contributing ideas, but I needed to carefully gauge other people's reactions first, and I wanted to make sure I wasn't accidentally directing the discussion back to the helpful topic about finding scum if other people had moved on to talking about something else.
And of course, that was good timing because that doesn't help my way of thinking. Probably why I think that way about it in the first place.
While this doesn't just necessarily pertain to you, it is a good tactic. But I don't want to base that thought simply because you don't have the time to post. I get that. But it's also your playstyle to begin with if I can be meta about that.
It's definitely a safe way to go through a good portion of the game without being fingered(lol) and seem helpful or at least innocent.
Your argument is especially not helped by the fact that this has been pretty normal for me, but I can't fault you for keeping your options open. XD
Shinan's first action was to random lynch Frogge. He never explains it. Then he starts his bizarre cannibalism roleplay. Ratty points out that Frogge jumps on this, but Frogge's seeming willingness to follow along with other players made him look suspicious. We never really got a good explanation from him because he's hardly on, but I started to have second thoughts too late in the day phase for it to really matter.
As I stepped into the game, I got to really thinking about the events linked to the deaths and Shinan. The first body is Ziggy. He's simply stabbed repeatedly. Shinan makes his random Frogge lynch, and in my day one observations, I note that that's the only time he posted. I remember that he rarely posted in previous games that I played with him, so I figured, welp. That's why I had that little exchange with him where he announced his intentions to continue not posting, so I said, "Cool." After that exchange, he starts posting all over the place, but starts with cannibalism on Ziggy. Kloe modkills RabitZ, and then adds the flavor about his arm being eaten. I actually think the same way you think on this, LockeZ. Kloe's addition probably was inspired by Shinan, but probably doesn't have anything to do with his alignment...but, it has stayed at the back of mind.
Now, Shinan is continuing to post a lot, but while we're talking about him and scumhunting him, he completely ignores us. I don't even care about his random lynched of NeverSilent. I'm probably the only person here who's never flat out random lynched. Ratty and I have to press him before he finally responds to us and has to explain himself.
As I stepped into the game, I got to really thinking about the events linked to the deaths and Shinan. The first body is Ziggy. He's simply stabbed repeatedly. Shinan makes his random Frogge lynch, and in my day one observations, I note that that's the only time he posted. I remember that he rarely posted in previous games that I played with him, so I figured, welp. That's why I had that little exchange with him where he announced his intentions to continue not posting, so I said, "Cool." After that exchange, he starts posting all over the place, but starts with cannibalism on Ziggy. Kloe modkills RabitZ, and then adds the flavor about his arm being eaten. I actually think the same way you think on this, LockeZ. Kloe's addition probably was inspired by Shinan, but probably doesn't have anything to do with his alignment...but, it has stayed at the back of mind.
Now, Shinan is continuing to post a lot, but while we're talking about him and scumhunting him, he completely ignores us. I don't even care about his random lynched of NeverSilent. I'm probably the only person here who's never flat out random lynched. Ratty and I have to press him before he finally responds to us and has to explain himself.
