[GAME OVER] M.A.F.I.A:PANDEMIC EDITION(POSTGAME DISCUSSION)

My, it's getting steamy in here, isn't it? >.>

To be fair, IF, I don't find much convincing about you voting for ratty after the fact. If you are ratty's partner in crime you could very well vote for them just to distance yourself when they flip scum. That seemed like a very earnest move to me though so I guess you did sway me either way. >.<

I will admit that's piano wording is troubling me. WHEN ratty flips town...

Why are you so certain that ratty will flip town, piano?

Because you're not town, are you?

Who can say? This is mafia. We don't know who anyone is, and I don't know who you are.

I'll flip town if you lynch me.

So you say.

InfectionFiles
and this isn't retaliatory, just something I've been feeling for awhile. You want the easy town kill knowing you aren't killing a special, someone you would like to infect.

Except you voted for me. I dont want to suspect them since they defended me. you've done nothing but hound me this game. So you're my first target.

Nope, totally not retaliatory.

I'll flip town if you lynch me. You lose either way and then you won't be laughing because the game is going to be brutal after this Day/Night.

Maybe you will, maybe you won't. All I see is someone who was way too aggressive suddenly dropping into the background and only following what everyone else does. Every game, so far, people always have it in for Ratty.

The biggest thing for me personally is that you don't give off that sense of security you have before and that worries me.

Why, because I haven't gone bat-shit crazy? I can do that. Isn't the lone wolf defending someone from an easy lynch kind of crazy? Oh, because I'm defending someone else, instead of you, I'm the bad guy? Every game Ratty plays, nobody seems to know him, even though he always acts the same. So come on, IF, make the case to lynch Ratty if you're so convinced he's scum, and I can counter every single one of them with "normal behavior for Ratty". I've seen him play scum before. Trust me, you'll know when he's scum, and this isn't it.

I suspect Psy because how strong he is

Honestly, psy's anecdotal statistics have been bothering me quite a bit. They don't really help anything and only serve to ratchet up the paranoia.

I'll mention to that I voted for Ratty not because of a bandwagon but because to alleviate gourds claim of working together. It's still something I might do because of like to sway gourd.

So wait, you voted Ratty to draw attention away from another player's observations? Oh, and if the heat continues, you might resume your vote on Ratty! That's worth a cancel and a relynch.

#cancel
#Lynch InfectionFiles

Gourd_Clae
Why are you so certain that ratty will flip town, piano?

Because we know when he's scum. His behaviors are consistent. And some of my feeling may be sentiment. Honestly, every single game, people have it in for him, and every single time he's flipped town. Seriously Gourd, look at the last time he played scum, the Isrieri's Phoenix Wright Mafia, and look at every other time since. Can you honestly say that he's acting strange this game?

author=CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
I don't buy IF being scum. I doubt he could fake those shenanigans at the end of d1

Maybe he was infected? The thing about this game is we kind of have to play it day by day. >.<

I am beginning to suspect IF less however, even if I didn't appreciate him trying to "sway" me earlier.

https://rpgmaker.net/forums/topics/20854/?post=745422#post745422

Here's one by psy.

https://rpgmaker.net/forums/topics/20854/?post=745381#post745381

Here's the other. He's ratcheting the number for you up because he considers that he might have been one of the targeted. It's a little presumptuous, but it doesn't really read as scummy.

Then here's his votes:

https://rpgmaker.net/forums/topics/20854/?post=745086#post745086
https://rpgmaker.net/forums/topics/20854/?post=745096#post745096

So, rereading his vote, he seems unsure that either of them are mafia or town. So he forces a coin flip.

No, you're fine. I only disliked it because it seemed like something scum would do, that is, vote for someone in the hopes of gaining support from another person.

It's becoming increasingly clear to me that you weren't trying to be conniving. I'm knocking myself a little, because I said your vote doesn't prove anything, but the whole situation seems very honest so I'm having hard time NOT being swayed by it. XD

He could force a coin flio because he suspected that xoe and myself were town so it didn't really matter either way. A townie was going to die.

That's one way of looking at it.

At that point it was obvious to me that both Xoe and IF were town. I figured there was a tiny tiny tiny chance Xoe was mafia that didn't know the rules very well, and wouldn't have known to role-claim to save their skin.

This makes sense to me, even though that's not exactly a rule. It's an understanding of psychology that comes with observing other players.

I still have no idea why you think IF is anything other than bad town though.

Honestly, I'm not sure now. His desperate pleas are starting to look town, but I do feel sure about Ratty.

We can't afford to waste a lynch on bad town at this point.

Fair enough. #cancel

@IF If Piano's mafia, then I'm guessing he was infected during the night. Worry about the seed mafia first.

Hang on a second, if you think I'm scum, then this is not the course of action to take. There are currently three scum and nine players.

A) We lynch town, mafia infects, bringing us to a ratio of 4:4. All bets are now on the serial killer. If he misses, or doesn't kill, town loses.

B) We lynch town, mafia night kills, bringing the ratio to 3:3. All bets are now on the serial killer. If he misses, or doesn't kill, town loses.

C) We lynch scum, mafia night kills, bringing the ratio 4:2. Serial killer still has breathing room.

D) We lynch scum, mafia infects, bringing the ratio to 5:2. Serial killer still has breathing room.

Obviously, if you think you have scum, wasting your time hunting for someone else is going to be detrimental to town.

I'm not voting for anyone at this point because I'm worried mafia will force a hammer really quickly if 2-3 town happen to leave their vote on the same person.

You mean like...RATTY!

Vigilante has a shot too outside of lynching or mafia kills. I just don't put too much stock in them after killing Kloe.

Frogge has been suspicious. But they just really haven't said much in the grand scheme of things.

And im sure just like Blob they could be doing whatever else although keeping quiet is a good tactic while you arent the focus.

So let's see what Frogge says! Convince us!

I don't know about Blob. He doesn't post much but he could very well be busy playing Dark Souls 2.

Frogge has definitely been acting strange with his contradictory behavior, but in the games I've played so far, almost all mafia is a bit more careful than that. That's kind of a meta reason on my end, though.

I'm not sure on Ratty, either, but you know me, I'm biased. :)