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[GAME OVER] M.A.F.I.A:PANDEMIC EDITION(POSTGAME DISCUSSION)
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Closeimo you should only answer questions specifically directed via PM and let everyone else sink or swim. it's not a big deal if people don't understand things.
Ugh... Wow.
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Yeah I'm pretty certain psy is town as well, after looking at that post carefully. If he wasn't, why would they be questioning about this?
And Tangled, it's cool. It doesn't sound like you've hosted many games and we all make mistakes (I have yet to host one myself) ^_^
It's not a possibility in my mind. I only said "I MAY be scum" for the sake of argument.
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Yeah I'm pretty certain psy is town as well, after looking at that post carefully. If he wasn't, why would they be questioning about this?
And Tangled, it's cool. It doesn't sound like you've hosted many games and we all make mistakes (I have yet to host one myself) ^_^
author=CAVE_DOG_IS_BACKauthor=Ratty524I'm saying that it is weird that being scum is even a possibility in your mind, if you're town. It's not a possibility in my mind. I'm not commenting on how easy it is to say "I'm town" as scum. It is easy, and yet, you did not do it.author=CAVE_DOG_IS_BACKUmm, do you realize how saying "I'm not scum" can easily work against you? There are no absolutes in this game, even the most quiet, rational-sounding person can be scum. I don't know about you, but anyone who claims to be "not scum"... Or even outright saying "I'm scum" out of the blue would be worth suspecting for something.
You either are or you aren't. I think that anyone who's town would say "I'm not scum." there should be a zero percent possibility of being scum in your mind, unless, you are actually a bad guy.
... Or wait, you are freakin' CAVE_DOG. What are you trying to get from me, here?
It's not a possibility in my mind. I only said "I MAY be scum" for the sake of argument.
psy_wombats
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@Tangled Nooooo why would you post that, you've pretty much confirmed Frogge's innocence.
@CAVE I agree with you that ratty's a decent chance of mafia, but not necessarily with the "~I might be scum~" comments, because hell Kloe was doing that and Frogge has been tapdancing around singing "I'm suspicious!" all day just for the hell of it. My main reasoning would be his voting pattern in day 1 that I want to take a look at when I get some time. Would you be willing to risk your (in-game) life that ratty's scum? You seem pretty sure.
@Ratty I thought you were suspicious, but not necessarily scum because you were getting dogpiled, and if mafia forces a hammer on town without planning we're pretty much dead. I have no qualms about lynching you as long as we have a 50/50 going on where even if you turn out town, the serial killer is able to effectively target scum. If you think CAVE's scum and you have no role, just think of it as sacrificing yourself to expose mafia and get a dangerous player out of the game. If you've got any better ideas, go for it.
@Blob I'm interested if Ratty "convinced" you of anything. If not, who's your vote?
@CAVE I agree with you that ratty's a decent chance of mafia, but not necessarily with the "~I might be scum~" comments, because hell Kloe was doing that and Frogge has been tapdancing around singing "I'm suspicious!" all day just for the hell of it. My main reasoning would be his voting pattern in day 1 that I want to take a look at when I get some time. Would you be willing to risk your (in-game) life that ratty's scum? You seem pretty sure.
@Ratty I thought you were suspicious, but not necessarily scum because you were getting dogpiled, and if mafia forces a hammer on town without planning we're pretty much dead. I have no qualms about lynching you as long as we have a 50/50 going on where even if you turn out town, the serial killer is able to effectively target scum. If you think CAVE's scum and you have no role, just think of it as sacrificing yourself to expose mafia and get a dangerous player out of the game. If you've got any better ideas, go for it.
@Blob I'm interested if Ratty "convinced" you of anything. If not, who's your vote?
For starters, how are you certain that the serial killer is on town's side? The OP has made it clear that they are working for themselves, and that also means they could very well support mafia if they choose to.
In fact, I think they are because the first nightkill was a random individual when there were plenty other "worthwhile" suspects for scum during day 1 (Infectionfiles, Frogge, etc.). I can't fathom the serial killer being on our side as a result.
In fact, I think they are because the first nightkill was a random individual when there were plenty other "worthwhile" suspects for scum during day 1 (Infectionfiles, Frogge, etc.). I can't fathom the serial killer being on our side as a result.
I don't think Tangled's post reveals anything about Frogge really. He can joke around regardless if he's town or mafia. Unless I'm looking at the wrong post.
@Psy He still looks the same to me. Why do you keep pushing Ratty though? Do you really want my vote on him or something?
@Psy He still looks the same to me. Why do you keep pushing Ratty though? Do you really want my vote on him or something?
The serial killer isn't on our side because if you were town you would know that we are hunting mafia AND the serial killer.
psy_wombats
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author=Ratty524
For starters, how are you certain that the serial killer is on town's side? The OP has made it clear that they are working for themselves, and that also means they could very well support mafia if they choose to.
In fact, I think they are because the first nightkill was a random individual when there were plenty other "worthwhile" suspects for scum during day 1 (Infectionfiles, Frogge, etc.). I can't fathom the serial killer being on our side as a result.
The serial killer's win condition is that they are the only survivor. If the game ends tonight with a mafia win, the serial killer loses. Right now the balance is frighteningly close to a mafia win, to the point where if no mafia dies tonight, it's game over for the killer as well. They'll be looking to drag out the game for a bit, so for now, our objectives are aligned. I'm hoping they realize this and cooperate.
Tungerman was a decent day 1 kill because he was 1) not overly useful to town 2) voted against Xoe, who turned out to be innocent. Not too bad. So I'm hoping the serial killer is smart and paying attention.
psy_wombats
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author=Blobofgoo
I don't think Tangled's post reveals anything about Frogge really. He can joke around regardless if he's town or mafia. Unless I'm looking at the wrong post.
@Psy He still looks the same to me. Why do you keep pushing Ratty though? Do you really want my vote on him or something?
Sorry, I meant if he had convinced you to vote against me, haha. If Frogge were scum, Tangled would interpret his look-at-me-I'm-suspicious dance (and the joke lynch of Piano as a result) as a ruse rather than misguided town thinking. At least that's how I interpreted it.
author=psy_wombatsauthor=Ratty524The serial killer's win condition is that they are the only survivor. If the game ends tonight with a mafia win, the serial killer loses. Right now the balance is frighteningly close to a mafia win, to the point where if no mafia dies tonight, it's game over for the killer as well. They'll be looking to drag out the game for a bit, so for now, our objectives are aligned. I'm hoping they realize this and cooperate.
For starters, how are you certain that the serial killer is on town's side? The OP has made it clear that they are working for themselves, and that also means they could very well support mafia if they choose to.
In fact, I think they are because the first nightkill was a random individual when there were plenty other "worthwhile" suspects for scum during day 1 (Infectionfiles, Frogge, etc.). I can't fathom the serial killer being on our side as a result.
Tungerman was a decent day 1 kill because he was 1) not overly useful to town 2) voted against Xoe, who turned out to be innocent. Not too bad. So I'm hoping the serial killer is smart and paying attention.
Good point. I didn't consider that.
author=InfectionFiles
The serial killer isn't on our side because if you were town you would know that we are hunting mafia AND the serial killer.
I'm pretty sure I and a few others have pointed out that hunting the serial killer this day is pretty useless, right? All mafia has to do is convert to win if one of them isn't killed this day.
I'm not hunting the serial killer. The fact that you don't know the survivors role and what they are supposed to do makes it clear to me you aren't town. If you're referring to the OP for whether or not serial killer is on towns side told not means you didn't know that survivors/townies are supposed to be looking for them too.
Town wins if all mafia are killed. Serial killer is only to be killed if town has a lot of breathing room. In a close game like this. We need all of the killing power we can get to keep mafia in check.
Tbh all I really got was that the scunteam is probably composed of less experienced players BC he has to explain things to scum a lot.
author=Gourd_Clae
Tbh all I really got was that the scunteam is probably composed of less experienced players BC he has to explain things to scum a lot.
I don't think so.
author=TangledLionauthor=CAVE_DOG_IS_BACKTo Be Fair I Have to Explain a lot to the mafia Too, I Really Should have been mor clear in the OP.
I'm now inclined to think that psy is town because of tangledlion's post. hoo boy.
The bold area I marked shows that Mafia simply needed help in clarifying Tangled's own rules, not necessarily on how to play the game.
Okay, stuff happened.
InfectionFiles, let me tell you something about the serial killer's win condition. IT. DOESN'T. MATTER. Clarifying this right here and right now. In order for the serial killer to win, he has to be the last man standing. This means that the endgame literally has to be comprised of town/scum/serial killer in order for him to win. Hunting the serial killer could be possibly the worst thing we could do, because whatever he is, he still counts to the total town.
Next thing you need to know. Mafia could easily win this night phase. This means the serial killer could be our friend. If he hits mafia, he saves our asses. Now, he could also end up winning the game for mafia. This is a gamble we have to take, because if we lynch and end up lynching an uninfected serial killer, I think it stands to reason that we are fucked every which way.
Ratty is right not to hunt the serial killer.
InfectionFiles, let me tell you something about the serial killer's win condition. IT. DOESN'T. MATTER. Clarifying this right here and right now. In order for the serial killer to win, he has to be the last man standing. This means that the endgame literally has to be comprised of town/scum/serial killer in order for him to win. Hunting the serial killer could be possibly the worst thing we could do, because whatever he is, he still counts to the total town.
Next thing you need to know. Mafia could easily win this night phase. This means the serial killer could be our friend. If he hits mafia, he saves our asses. Now, he could also end up winning the game for mafia. This is a gamble we have to take, because if we lynch and end up lynching an uninfected serial killer, I think it stands to reason that we are fucked every which way.
Ratty is right not to hunt the serial killer.
author=Ratty524author=Gourd_ClaeI don't think so.
Tbh all I really got was that the scunteam is probably composed of less experienced players BC he has to explain things to scum a lot.author=TangledLionauthor=CAVE_DOG_IS_BACKTo Be Fair I Have to Explain a lot to the mafia Too, I Really Should have been mor clear in the OP.
I'm now inclined to think that psy is town because of tangledlion's post. hoo boy.
The bold area I marked shows that Mafia simply needed help in clarifying Tangled's own rules, not necessarily on how to play the game.
Ah, you're right, my bad!
