[GAME OVER] M.A.F.I.A:PANDEMIC EDITION(POSTGAME DISCUSSION)
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Obvs worth iterating that CAVE_DOG could be infected today. If so Ratty and CAVE_DOG seem like a possible couple of Mafia, no? There's still the one left though, whos likely to be one of the lurkers at this rate IMO (blob or Gourd)
@piano Looking through Gourd's stuff I realized it's just the way he's put things a couple times that stood out to me that seemed unnatural (in his first post, when he gets back on IF's case after the end of day 1) but I doubt that would be enough to convince anyone. Plus I was skeptical about how he was going after Ratty mid day 2, then somehow buying Ratty's "YM used honorifics!!" argument immediately. But after review he was on Ratty's case in day 1 so that's not really telling like I thought it would be. I'm willing to buy that he thought a lynch of a useless person would still be acceptable when he was going after Frogge. Voting against me and leaving doesn't look great from my perspective.
And I would argue that if I can't convince people, I should at least be using my vote strategically rather than putting on who I personally think is most likely. Like if I immediately threw out "lynch piano!!" right now it's not like that would accomplish anything. I'd rather vote for ratty who still has a chance of being scum rather than we end up lynching Frogge or IF or someone I know isn't mafia.
And I would argue that if I can't convince people, I should at least be using my vote strategically rather than putting on who I personally think is most likely. Like if I immediately threw out "lynch piano!!" right now it's not like that would accomplish anything. I'd rather vote for ratty who still has a chance of being scum rather than we end up lynching Frogge or IF or someone I know isn't mafia.
author=Yellow Magic
Obvs worth iterating that CAVE_DOG could be infected today. If so Ratty and CAVE_DOG seem like a possible couple of Mafia, no? There's still the one left though, whos likely to be one of the lurkers at this rate IMO (blob or Gourd)
Read CAVE's explanation of why he's been absent, it's not him.
I'm not the killer, no, or I wouldn't need to resort to setting up this convoluted stuff. I would've just joined the Ratty bandwagon, and then if he flipped town, I'd have killed CAVE. Instead I opened myself up by trying to get them on board. Which may have been a mistake but I think this was kind of inevitable if there's 1) a scum voting bloc and 2) I'm on to something.
This is why you build a case. In my eyes, there was never a strong case against Ratty. There was a strong case against IF, but everyone was swayed by humorous theatrics and nobly telling Xoe it's one or the other. When I thought about it, IF seemed like newbie town being overly aggressive. I know because I was, and to an extent still am the same way, and I'm sure you can see it. I zeroed in on protecting Ratty and still haven't let up. I zeroed in on IF, and you saw how much it took to back me off of him. I suspected him, I built a case and it fell apart. I didn't suspect Cave as much but he was less talkative and seemed uninvested so considered him and I let others built the case. He convinced me to cancel pretty easily. It was a lynch I didn't fully believe in.
You, on the other hand, are "strategically" pursuing lynches of people with a low likelihood of scum, because you want to make sure you can get everybody on board. You're targeting easy prey.
You, on the other hand, are "strategically" pursuing lynches of people with a low likelihood of scum, because you want to make sure you can get everybody on board. You're targeting easy prey.
For the record my /only/ vote today has been against CAVE, who I wouldn't consider easy prey at all, and I was feeling pretty good about until his explanation.
I don't really trust cases save super something really obvious because I think vote tallies and hard evidence are a lot more convincing than tells or phrasing. I can justify some of my placings on my post from earlier, but I think I've done that already, it's really just choosing how to apply that strategically at this point, because the speed of the game (game over on night 2 it's looking) isn't a long enough of a time to build the kind of case built on voting.
I don't really trust cases save super something really obvious because I think vote tallies and hard evidence are a lot more convincing than tells or phrasing. I can justify some of my placings on my post from earlier, but I think I've done that already, it's really just choosing how to apply that strategically at this point, because the speed of the game (game over on night 2 it's looking) isn't a long enough of a time to build the kind of case built on voting.
Not gonna be up much longer and as much as I like these things I'm not getting up at 6AM tomorrow.
Notes for vigilante/sk/whoever:
YM: I suspect he's not voting against me at the moment because he's scum and when I flip town, he wants to avoid suspicion, I'd go for him maybe
IF: I chose to believe he's innocent because if he's not I'd look stupid as hell and would be fine with losing, really not that suspicious though
piano: either innocent or sadistic, if he were scum he would shut up, let me die, and go to sleep... leave him
Gourd: irritatingly non-descript til now but I'm annoyed he canceled his cave vote /after/ piano canceled despite posting before him, then later slapped his vote on me then left, but only /after/ piano and ratty also switched. go for him
Ratty: probably innocent and I think he was the first to jump on me? so probably clear
CAVE: will be dangerous next day if infected but his explanation for being out for most of day 2 vindicates him for me, leave him
Blob: really really suspicious, I see no reason to follow posting in the thread and only respond when called by name really, but he backed up Ratty so idk, but avoiding detection at this point is scum strat go for him maybe?
Frogge: is probably genuinely terrible town rather than just pretending to be so, leave him
Also might be relevant: @Tangled: what happens if sniper and vigilante target the same person?
#lynch Gourd_Clae
Notes for vigilante/sk/whoever:
YM: I suspect he's not voting against me at the moment because he's scum and when I flip town, he wants to avoid suspicion, I'd go for him maybe
IF: I chose to believe he's innocent because if he's not I'd look stupid as hell and would be fine with losing, really not that suspicious though
piano: either innocent or sadistic, if he were scum he would shut up, let me die, and go to sleep... leave him
Gourd: irritatingly non-descript til now but I'm annoyed he canceled his cave vote /after/ piano canceled despite posting before him, then later slapped his vote on me then left, but only /after/ piano and ratty also switched. go for him
Ratty: probably innocent and I think he was the first to jump on me? so probably clear
CAVE: will be dangerous next day if infected but his explanation for being out for most of day 2 vindicates him for me, leave him
Blob: really really suspicious, I see no reason to follow posting in the thread and only respond when called by name really, but he backed up Ratty so idk, but avoiding detection at this point is scum strat go for him maybe?
Frogge: is probably genuinely terrible town rather than just pretending to be so, leave him
Also might be relevant: @Tangled: what happens if sniper and vigilante target the same person?
#lynch Gourd_Clae
I really doubt that wombats would be gunning for gourd right now, if he were scum. unless he's scum with ratty, which I doubt.
author=psy_wombats
Frogge: is probably genuinely terrible town rather than just pretending to be so, leave him
Confession: I was doing terrible anyway, so I decided to continue being terrible on purpose. But it's actually working, so that's a thing.
Working in the sense that I'm not a major suspect. Well probably am, but I didn't really get any lynches so far except from YM in the beginning who cancelled it later and also some one else I forgot who also cancelled it later >.<
Psy, I'm not voting for you because I suspect the MOST of being Mafia, and that hasn't changed.
Piano: What's the strong case against IF compared to Ratty??
To be fair on Frogge he's actually being very transparent and easy to read which is a good trait for Townies - something a lot of people don't tend to do very well in Mafia games LOL
Piano: What's the strong case against IF compared to Ratty??
To be fair on Frogge he's actually being very transparent and easy to read which is a good trait for Townies - something a lot of people don't tend to do very well in Mafia games LOL
I'm voting for the person I suspect the most*
Generally, it is extremely weird for a townie to be concerned with their own survival and nothing else. and also, unhealthy. for the town.
I demand that seven hundred people vote ratty immediately.
author=CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
I demand that seven hundred people vote ratty immediately.
you got it chief
#cancel
#lynch Ratty524
Gonna strategic vote to the end. Sorry piano, I still do think there's only like a 30% chance Ratty is scum, but at least I can know I'm at 0%. (If this turns out wrong, my guess is I'll be nightkilled anyway so it's not all for nothing! yayy)
For clarification that's not an invitation to be nightkilled and if I'm killed by the vigilante I'm holding them personally responsible for the outcome of the game. Because seriously.
Use your judgment and realize that 3 voters are scum. My guess is there's at least one innocent voting against me but that's still only a guess. Gourd is still my biggest feel for scum and piano for not-scum. If Ratty is scum then Gourd almost certainly is. If Ratty is not scum, then the way votes are stacked right now I'm actually not sure, but YM would be my candidate for leading off with Ratty in day 2.
Use your judgment and realize that 3 voters are scum. My guess is there's at least one innocent voting against me but that's still only a guess. Gourd is still my biggest feel for scum and piano for not-scum. If Ratty is scum then Gourd almost certainly is. If Ratty is not scum, then the way votes are stacked right now I'm actually not sure, but YM would be my candidate for leading off with Ratty in day 2.
Oh Don't worry psy...
Ballot Box
CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK-1-Frogge,
Ratty524-4-Yellow Magic, CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK, InfectionFiles, Psy_Wombats,
Psy_Wombats-3-Ratty524, pianotm, Gourd_Clae,
Unused Votes-3
In A fervent Frenzy Ratty is Jumped by His Foes and Beaten to Death, As he is beaten, the rest of the survivors Swear they could hear a GUN Go off, when the dust settles a shocking discovery is made...
Ratty524 Has Perished He was the Vigilante
End Day 2, Begin Night 2
No Posting On This thread For Now, All Players With Night Actions Please get them to me Now, I Will Also send you Reminder PMs.
Ballot Box
CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK-1-Frogge,
Ratty524-4-Yellow Magic, CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK, InfectionFiles, Psy_Wombats,
Psy_Wombats-3-Ratty524, pianotm, Gourd_Clae,
Unused Votes-3
In A fervent Frenzy Ratty is Jumped by His Foes and Beaten to Death, As he is beaten, the rest of the survivors Swear they could hear a GUN Go off, when the dust settles a shocking discovery is made...
Ratty524 Has Perished He was the Vigilante
End Day 2, Begin Night 2
No Posting On This thread For Now, All Players With Night Actions Please get them to me Now, I Will Also send you Reminder PMs.
Dawn of Day 3
Yellow Magic Has Perished Via Sniper Round He was Original M.A.F.I.A,
Lynch Voting Begins Now!
Jesus christ, finally
After we lost Ratty (sorry, man) I thought we were done for. At least now it's getting back into somewhat balanced, maybe? either way SK finally got it right. well it didn't help that ratty killed kloe, still a little surprised he did that honestly.
I missed a whole bunch that happened in the end of Day 2 so I still need to catch up on that
After we lost Ratty (sorry, man) I thought we were done for. At least now it's getting back into somewhat balanced, maybe? either way SK finally got it right. well it didn't help that ratty killed kloe, still a little surprised he did that honestly.
I missed a whole bunch that happened in the end of Day 2 so I still need to catch up on that



















