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Blobofgoo
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CloseI appreciate everyone's attempts to be logical, but not taking any real action is just going to make for a boring game. Please everyone try to get involved in the discussion. You're running out of time for day 2. Only 16.5 hours left.
Odd has been real quiet, could just be time zone or stuff. It's hard to get organized with so many different people.
And sorry, Blob. I know a handful of us are trying. :(
And sorry, Blob. I know a handful of us are trying. :(
Sorry, I've been away some of the day.
There also isn't much for me to say, and most likely I'll be killed tonight or something, like in my first game due to my apparently established innocence.
There also isn't much for me to say, and most likely I'll be killed tonight or something, like in my first game due to my apparently established innocence.
author=Yellow Magic
Wow LockeZ sorry that I have a LIFE (....at my parents place. It is hell here. Get me out get me out get me out)
Re: Cap_H:
he predicted cave's death
Probably not - Cap_H's power had nothing to do with being able to "see" other's actions. He could have just made a random guess, and then the Night after, the Mafia thought they could mess with our heads by making it look like a prediction come true.
he never role claimed to save himself
he was pretty unhelpful in general
To be fair, Townies have done this several times in the past - don't want to name names, but hopefully you guys remember examples.
author=InfectionFiles
I'm actually trying to avoid voting too soon as you could see looking back. I'm really trying to give people the benefit of doubt.
Starting some lynches can be dangerous to oneself as to appear too bloodthirsty.
I think we've established several times in the past that worrying about endangering YOURSELF is not very Town-like behaviour...what's up InfectionFiles?
I agree with all of this, especially the point on IF. There is merit to jumping on people even for stuff that's menial, because it gets people talking.
To respond to the accusations.
@InfectionFiles: Now that I've looked through your posts carefully, I think I'll retract my statements about you as your reaction to the situation (which seemed to me as being mostly just a "move forward" kind of deal) looked normal.
@Gourde_Clae: You mixing up the differences between a random and deliberate lynch vote and... Eh. :V
LockeZ
I'd really like to get rid of LockeZ. His play style is way too unpredictable. He's always like this too. If he ran a country, he'd just kill and imprison people at random until crime stopped.
5958
We should lynch Yellow Magic's parents.
And whoever has the sword should kill Tungerman, IMO. YM as a secomnd choice. The loud people all seem to be trying to be helpful so far, though not necessarily successfully. Infection is too noncommittal, but at least he's staying consistent and defending that play style instead of trying to impress people by doing as he's asked, so it's not setting off my MEGA scumdar, just a little blip.
And whoever has the sword should kill Tungerman, IMO. YM as a secomnd choice. The loud people all seem to be trying to be helpful so far, though not necessarily successfully. Infection is too noncommittal, but at least he's staying consistent and defending that play style instead of trying to impress people by doing as he's asked, so it's not setting off my MEGA scumdar, just a little blip.
psy_wombats
13315
odd, I actually realized there's one specific scenario where you're scum, so we'll have to wait until tomorrow to confirm your innocence 100%. But because you're (very very likely) innocent, it gives you free reign to share your thoughts and we can trust you're not trying to mislead us. That's why I keep asking you.
As much as I like more information, sorry Blob, but this makes me very very nervous. You've basically come out and said "if things continue as they are, the game is going to be boring." Successfully ID'ing and hunting scum is not "boring." I see this as a call to the mafia (who are hanging back) to actually get involved and change things up. Or else to some of the more passive town (Gourd, IF) to follow their hunches and stop playing safe. ...although I guess all the other moderators have said they usually root for scum
@Ratty - You've thrown put suspicion on me, Gourd, and lots on IF, but not a vote. You got defensive about Kloe, like enough where if Kloe flips town my bet is you're scum trying to exonerate yourself because you're the only dissenting opinion at this point. If Kloe isn't scum, who is? You can't just sit around forever, so if you Gourd is likely scum, vote for him. Hell, vote for me. But you're too vocal a player where I'm going to let you get away with not committing and not giving us any new info.
author=Blobofgoo
I appreciate everyone's attempts to be logical, but not taking any real action is just going to make for a boring game. Please everyone try to get involved in the discussion. You're running out of time for day 2. Only 16.5 hours left.
As much as I like more information, sorry Blob, but this makes me very very nervous. You've basically come out and said "if things continue as they are, the game is going to be boring." Successfully ID'ing and hunting scum is not "boring." I see this as a call to the mafia (who are hanging back) to actually get involved and change things up. Or else to some of the more passive town (Gourd, IF) to follow their hunches and stop playing safe. ...although I guess all the other moderators have said they usually root for scum
@Ratty - You've thrown put suspicion on me, Gourd, and lots on IF, but not a vote. You got defensive about Kloe, like enough where if Kloe flips town my bet is you're scum trying to exonerate yourself because you're the only dissenting opinion at this point. If Kloe isn't scum, who is? You can't just sit around forever, so if you Gourd is likely scum, vote for him. Hell, vote for me. But you're too vocal a player where I'm going to let you get away with not committing and not giving us any new info.
psy_wombats
13315
oh and Blob's refusal to answer my question about whether mafia know whether Cave had a role or not makes me think that 1) scum know and 2) it's bad news
author=psy_wombats
odd, I actually realized there's one specific scenario where you're scum, so we'll have to wait until tomorrow to confirm your innocence 100%. But because you're (very very likely) innocent, it gives you free reign to share your thoughts and we can trust you're not trying to mislead us. That's why I keep asking you.
Okay, then. Though, honestly, I truly am useless. I know that's a pretty pessimistic viewpoint, but it's a true one. Though, I am curious about that scenario. I'm guessing that if I survive the night, I'm not 100% innocent, but if I die, I am.
Though, CAVE was assassinated, right? What if he was mafia, not town? Perhaps the other mafia found him to be a hindrance, and so they used the assassin to kill him? Or maybe to mess with everyone, he was the assassin, and so killed himself?
Though, that's all based on what I've heard/seen of CAVE, so it could easily be disproven, if his playing style is different from what I thought.
He was like a troll, right?
He was like a troll, right?
psy_wombats
13315
I'm not sure everyone is like you in that they'd immediately suicide if they rolled mafia haha. I wouldn't call him a troll, he just has a sense of humor I guess. As for playstyle: self-assured and generally decent instincts. But I dunno, I played one game with him and this one hardly counts.
Ah. Okay, then. Well, that sort of ruins that theory.
Also, I'm fine with being mafia, I guess. I won't kill myself if I end up mafia, as I realize that would probably upset everyone else playing.
Also, I'm fine with being mafia, I guess. I won't kill myself if I end up mafia, as I realize that would probably upset everyone else playing.
#Lynch Kloe We're running out of time here, and Kloe is definitely odd. When she's not odd, she's unhelpful. Her play style is vastly different - in fact it's not there at all because she doesn't seem to know what to post. She usually doesn't have a problem with this, and the only reason I can think that she'd have this problem is if she can't be helpful (bc she's mafia) or she doesn't want to incriminate herself (bc she's mafia).
Seems like a pretty safe lynch!
Seems like a pretty safe lynch!
Is it a good bet that those who don't vote for her soon could be mafia? Unless someone cancels, which would be suspicious now considering there isn't much more to go on.
It might be between Od, LockeZ, Ratty or more likely Tunger and YM if the two latter don't vote. It also could explain their standoffish behavior. Though I'm not going to base much on that because they have lives etc
I dont mind a hammer vote much at this point since it can suss or mafia possibly. I'll also be suspicious of anyone trying to throw us off Kloe.
Of course all this only makes sense if Kloe is mafia. If she's not then scum can just sit back or make sure a hammer goes through and end the Day a little early.
I think we will get some good tells though from this.
I'm also under the assumption that she needs one more vote for hammer unless I'm mistaken.
It might be between Od, LockeZ, Ratty or more likely Tunger and YM if the two latter don't vote. It also could explain their standoffish behavior. Though I'm not going to base much on that because they have lives etc
I dont mind a hammer vote much at this point since it can suss or mafia possibly. I'll also be suspicious of anyone trying to throw us off Kloe.
Of course all this only makes sense if Kloe is mafia. If she's not then scum can just sit back or make sure a hammer goes through and end the Day a little early.
I think we will get some good tells though from this.
I'm also under the assumption that she needs one more vote for hammer unless I'm mistaken.
psy_wombats
13315
It works both ways IF: if she flips mafia, then yes, we're somewhat exonerated, but if she flips town, I'd be coming down hard on whoever forced through the hammer. I'm not that confident. At the minimum you have to give people a chance to roleclaim. I doubt Kloe's anything or she'd be yelling about it by now, but I don't see what hammering buys us except you get to prove you're innocent. Which unless /you've/ got a role is not really that important.
Actually, are /you/ that confident to the point where you'd be willing to hammer? I know I got a ton of flak for this last game, but if we have a vigilante kill and two people who are definitely not the same alignment, we can get out of a lynch-or-lose.
Actually, are /you/ that confident to the point where you'd be willing to hammer? I know I got a ton of flak for this last game, but if we have a vigilante kill and two people who are definitely not the same alignment, we can get out of a lynch-or-lose.
