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I'd be completely fine voting for isrieri as well. I wasted so much time trying to work out the illogical through logic. A non-helpful town is just as dangerous as scum, and my thing with cap_h is mostly just a feeling based on his actions.
Jeroen_Sol
Nothing reveals Humanity so well as the games it plays. A game of betrayal, where the most suspicious person is brutally murdered? How savage.
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In pianotm's championship game, someone was keeping track of people's reads and votes for analysis in a table like this. I thought it was a really good idea, so I'm doing it too. If anything's off or you have more to add, please say so.

Also, if I die, please continue the chart.
Jeroen_Sol
Nothing reveals Humanity so well as the games it plays. A game of betrayal, where the most suspicious person is brutally murdered? How savage.
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Oh, I don't think I ever explicitly stated I townread Psy, but so far he seems very helpful and pro-town.
Ebeth
always up for cute art and spicy gay romance
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Jeroen what do the X's over the colors mean? That they thought that at one point and then recanted?
Jeroen_Sol
Nothing reveals Humanity so well as the games it plays. A game of betrayal, where the most suspicious person is brutally murdered? How savage.
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Oh, sorry. Xs are votes. Bolded Xs are current votes, thin Xs are cancelled votes.
Ebeth
always up for cute art and spicy gay romance
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Got it! Thanks Jeroen!

I'm still keeping my vote on Isrieri for still not giving any actual reasoning behind his thoughts but I could be persuaded to vote Demonlord since he keeps posting nonsense which either means hes a bad scum or unhelpful townie.
In my case at least it's not intentionally unhelpful, just some bad assumptions. There also isn't much to go off on the first day. I do still think cap is suspicious both for the reasons jer posted, as well as the fact that all of his comments have been involved in my own, but mayby that is just me being paranoid.

For now though, I'll go with the current flow.

#cancel
#lynch Isrieri
InfectionFiles
the world ends in whatever my makerscore currently is
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author=Gourd_Clae
author=psy_wombats
I was going to say we could kill either gourd or IF because otherwise they'll be spam-racing the whole time,.
welp I know who I'd vote to lynch.

Isrieri's post was 50% "I'll be back" arnold schwarzenegger style and 50%... something. I figured it was just a joke?
Hey! That's not fair haha I actually havent been able to post that much! Trying to catch up on my break
InfectionFiles
the world ends in whatever my makerscore currently is
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Pay always reads town, the dude is a scary helpful enigma. Though he wants me and Gourd dead because of our "spam-posting" contest which is joke scummy
Isrieri
"My father told me this would happen."
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author=InfectionFiles
Pay always reads town, the dude is a scary helpful enigma. Though he wants me and Gourd dead because of our "spam-posting" contest which is joke scummy


I have no idea what that means. I understand what you wrote, but what are you talking about?
InfectionFiles
the world ends in whatever my makerscore currently is
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Oh, does it help that Pay is supposed to be Psy? And for context the post above it was what I was referring to
Cap_H
DIGITAL IDENTITY CRISIS
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author=Jeroen_Sol
I agree Isrieri should not claim. He should explain his reasoning though.

I don't like Cap advocating not rolehunting while simultaneously doing exactly that, calling me a confirmed PR and asking Isrieri to claim.


I wanted to see, if Isri claims cop. I tried to trick him there. I know for a fact there is no cop.
And I don't like the second post he made about Ebeth. Isri, there's no way you can be sure about that. We're asking on your read, which lacks any explanation.
I don't know how I'm trigger happy calling most people towns.
It was a slip with you, Jero, a feeling from your reaction. I didn't resisted and posted it there.
Isrieri
"My father told me this would happen."
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We just got done saying role claiming was a bad idea!
Cap_H
DIGITAL IDENTITY CRISIS
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author=Jeroen_Sol
In pianotm's championship game, someone was keeping track of people's reads and votes for analysis in a table like this. I thought it was a really good idea, so I'm doing it too. If anything's off or you have more to add, please say so.

Also, if I die, please continue the chart.


I'm not that sure about my town leans. I think you can turn Psy green and Gourd yellow (rereading that post again and again, I find it really strange). Isri moves to the orange zone. I think that his posts lack any content and the case on me is lazy, stealing from previous posts (especially demon).
Reads on you and Psy are based on content, IF is mostly tone and nothing firm. Demon is firmer tone read.
I like some posts from Lockez and Gourd, but the rest is enough to keep me unsure.
Ebeth haven't posted anything alignment indicative yet.
Cap_H
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author=psy_wombats
Yeah I wasn't thrilled with that but I remember a game a while back where as scum I got Cap killed for role-hunting day 1 so not really sure it's actually a scum tell for him.


You got me killed for role playing. Silly me.
Cap_H
DIGITAL IDENTITY CRISIS
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author=Isrieri
We just got done saying role claiming was a bad idea!


I didn't claim anything. What was your reason for townreading Ebeth, if you can finally answer?
Isrieri
"My father told me this would happen."
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No you surely didn't. But I don't know how you could know for a fact there's no cop unless you were claiming a role.

I'd be happy to tell you how I know Ebeth is in the clear if you tell me how it helps town at all.
Cap_H
DIGITAL IDENTITY CRISIS
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She won't get lynched for not having any reads or other game solving content. So, It might be quite helpful, if you have a valid reason.
Cap_H
DIGITAL IDENTITY CRISIS
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author=Ebeth
Got it! Thanks Jeroen!

I'm still keeping my vote on Isrieri for still not giving any actual reasoning behind his thoughts but I could be persuaded to vote Demonlord since he keeps posting nonsense which either means hes a bad scum or unhelpful townie.


Actually, this post tries to solve the game. But it came several pages after your 'read.' The only thing she posted before it, which remotely reminds me of the game was "LockeZ is LockeZ" post
For those voting Isrieri/Cap_H for thinking they're unproductive town, that's not really helpful -- better than killing productive town sure but still. Kill people that are likeliest to be scum, or if they were scum we'd be unlikely to figure it out.

@IF: That was mostly joke. Who do you think is scum though?

@Gourd: Also interested in your opinion because you haven't voted.

@Ebeth: I don't think demonlord is scum because there are better things for scum to do than immediately fumble the rules, like saying hi in scumchat vs immediately calling the setup. Not that I really think cap is, either.

@Isrieri: It helps town because no one trusts anyone and therefore no one will believe you unless you explain your reasoning. Otherwise no one's taking your word for it.

I could kill Gourd/IF/Jero, less so LockeZ or Ebeth. Don't really think it's any of the others at this point, but I guess I can't complain if Isrieri dies as sort of an exercise in "people that play this way deserve to be killed."