[MAFIA] PURGATORY: A MAFIA GAME

Earlier you didn't seem to think there was anything to gleam from it. Your analysis is shaky anyway

yes...because i reread the thread and don't pick up on anything immediately (see, last game, where I only suspected ozzy day 2.

plus idk that it matters that I didn't express that it was a bogus question at the time? Like, did I need to give a two week notice before I agreed with you? it wasn't relevant to me until now and I didn't like how you were weaponizing something that you called bogus before

for someone who hasn't had the energy to do much in this game, you sure are able to summon up a lot of snark. what are you even talking about here. none of this has anything to do with what i said.
you: why would i feel obligated to answer that question
me: if scum you would feel obligated to give an earnest answer, as you did, because it is a question directly pointed towards you, in a game thread that you are playing in
you: time flows backwards

your response is what i am calling into question, as i have said, not lockez's initial question. i am convinced that you are just going trying to misconstrue anything anyone says about you because the stakes are higher for you.

um it's still scumhunting if it's about you cave (and you know other people. psy is another person). are you saying you don't believe I came to this conclusion day 1? If I can't show you a post of me explicitly stating this, I can definitely show you posts where I implied I thought this way. I picked up *multiple* things said by psy. In the same vein of thought, yeah, but I'm pretty sure I can find more? I feel like psy has theorized ALOT about scum team's motives this game and, in addition to the blatantly weird stuff I pointed it out, I don't think it's all that innocuous.

every single posts have been about me *despite you allegedly having a nulltell on me* followed up by *cave wasn't lynched day 1 so he's scum.* that part really needs to be emphasized. in fact i'll put some bold text right here. that part needs to be emphasized. that is textbook fake-content + false narrative.

and that's not what i was saying, but sure, post your giant psy case.

Day 1 I was trying to say I see the argument for demon's actions being scummy. Doesn't mean I had a scum read on him. I just understood the argument.

But, assuming I DID have a scum read on demon, it was day 1 and if I was going to lynch my nulltell instead of my scum read that would be the day. I also think it was justified because it would give more information.

if you didn't have a scumread on demon despite finding what he was saying as scummy (??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????) then he would also be a nulltell on you. like, you were very focused on lynching the person who you had no read on. ok, ignoring the fact that that makes no sense, i ask again, what information would you have gotten from me flipping town. because this was apparently a big enough info depot for you to advocate using a day on. there's zero reason you can't talk about this in addition to advocating for my murder now. the fact that i haven't flipped is not an excuse.

1. I never had a consistent read on demon, which is reflected in various people thinking I felt a different way about him

so? this isn't really a good or a bad thing.

2. i uh, didn't exactly go "argh! shouldn't have lynched him!" what's really insidious about this narrative is that it existed before I even started talking today. yea. go and look back. I was literally responding to this narrative when I expressed that we shouldn't have lynched demon but didn't express that I thought this made me more town. I was just lamenting we didn't kill cave bc he must DIE.

Okay, but also, we shouldn't have lynched demon. I'm gonna ahve to look back and see exactly how that happened over lynching cave anyway. there's plenty we can learn from it because there's no way scum was not trying to kill demon. Scum was definitely voting to lynch him by the end of the day.

I don't know what narrative you are talking about, but narrative that you said these exact words, that I just quoted, started when you said these words, which I have quoted, and it is relevant because it is something scum tend to do, as you can see from last game.

3. I dont have a 3, cave's ozzy argument was around before I even started talking today, honestly think that invalidates it.

what. lol. you seem to have a very fluid view of how time works.

4. actually wait yeah I have another point!! ozzy's behavior also had little to no explanation as to what changed between posts but mine always have reasons. many, many reasons

so are you saying you actually did scumread demonlord after all now


i'm done engaging with gourd for the rest of today. he's all over the place, more than anyone i've ever seen, and i don't think he's arguing in good faith. i'm sure the case on psy is coming.

if anyone else has something better that i should be looking at, please point me in the right direction.

i have a prediction for second member of the scumteam but I am still waiting on cap's explanation of why he reads hunibear/aneko in the way he does.

author=Gourd_Clae
hi hello What do you think of my argument? You may as well make yourself useful punk

Every post you and Cave make has eight quotes in it and three responses to each of them. You are going to have to be more specific. You've said a lot of shit, and I honestly don't understand the context behind a lot of your posts. Can you please summarize the argument in question in one or two paragraphs?

author=psy_wombats

author=Gourd_Clae
It was random. That would be a much more reasonable theory than a weird sense justice on scum's part

Short any power roles or the ability to shut people up, I could see someone more whimsical trying it. Didn't cave say he usually targeted lurkers?

You guys are really fixated on guessing the reasoning behind the first nightkill. I'm not sure what you hope to learn by going back and forth with theories. Since nightkills can't be used to shut people up or to remove power roles, most of the normal reasons for killing people don't make sense anyway, except "kill the confirmed town." Nobody was confirmed town so...

Like, sorry if your goal was to get the scum to defensively mansplain themselves, and I just ruined it, but I'm pretty sure that's not gonna happen. Alternately if this argument is being carried on by scum who aren't sure how to decide who to nightkill, and are trying to fish for ideas, then... I'm not sorry.

Cap_H/Hunibear sounds feasible as it'd explain why Cap thought Cave's claim held any water.

@Gourd: opinions on cap?

author=psy_wombats
Cap_H/Hunibear sounds feasible as it'd explain why Cap thought Cave's claim held any water.

@Gourd: opinions on cap?

You make a good point about him in relation to huni. He also had huni as a town read and said she had good interactions despote her not saying much. He was also very worried when it seemed like huni was confirmed to be scum.

He has a lot of town reads which might be his way of currying favor with town so we don't try to lynch him. He also said demon seemed town while he voted him and only a little before that he said he didn't want to kill demon.

There is a bit of a discrepancy in how he treats aneko and huni too, although they've played in a nearly identical way.

umm, I was going to say cap did seems legit confused at many points so he seemed to be town, but I think I just convinced myself he's being scummy. I think there's a good case for him

Good morning,
It's interesting to see that everyone waited for Huni to answer to that obviously fake claim. If it was so obviously fake, there was no wrong reaction.
There are conclusions to make from the claim itself, tho. And I suspected Cave more than Huni, that's the reason why I was talking about it and questioning it openly. But reactions of other players to my post made me feel better about Cave. Plus his own activity later on was very strong.
Tbh, I'm derping hard in this game and I'm not so proud about it.

author=CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK

author=Cap_H

author=Muffle
aneko has also never played before, by the way.

Yeah, but she looks like she's afraid to post.
I would say wolves are in: Demonlord, Aneko, LockeZ and maybe Cave, Jero.

i would like an explanation for this though. demonlord has been pushing aneko all game but saying huni is town.

i have my own theory on one of these two players, but would like to hear his explanation.

Hm, I think Huni tried to participate more actively and doesn't care so much about looking like a townie. She haven't posted yet today and it's far too late for it to be just a case of avoiding an early entrance. Aneko's posts are not natural on the other hand and she only posted once today. That post didn't bring any new opinion.
Huni had worse switch on Demon, I guess. But there were at least two other votes with same reasoning. Her vote was quite late so I can imagine her making sure, that you're not getting lynched, but if you're town, there was no reason for her to switch and that makes the vote look better again.

No, I don't agree, I've pretty much been thinking of them as one unit with the only difference being Aneko first voting cave and Huni first voting Gourd. Hunibear seemed scummier. I'm questioning that you find the differences between the two enough to say that one is town and the other is scum over other scum options (like, for instance, Gourd).

author=Cap_H
towncred for that. I think at least one of them is capable of faking it, but its an unnecssary effort.
And I like the latest post from gourd (associating me with huni). Psy obviously like it too.
So, I still suspect LockeZ but less than I did, #Lynch Aneko, Psy's trending down but not a whole lot.
I don't know if I would vote Cave or Gourd. Probably not.

It doesn't read as overtly suspicious but this is a lot of town reading. Fits into the theory that you're buddying up to town to avoid being lynched.

I'll leave a vote for cap here. the argument on him is good I think and multiple people seem to like it better than everything else that happened today. I gotta sleep. If I'm lynched in the morning sorry I made a mess. ;w;

#Lynch cap