[MAFIA] PROBLEMS AT THE PRECINCT.

author=LockeZ
I'm going to #cancel and then #lynch Cap_H then, due to my aforementioned feeling that he was also being fairly scummy

*oddRabbit shennigans*

This is the single least clever ploy I've ever seen.

author=psy_wombats
If you think that's a ploy, why aren't you voting against him?

author=pianotm
Yeah, I know, LockeZ has made an solid scum accusation on oddRABBIT, but then he votes Cap_H, who has literally only done what he always does every time he plays town.

So for the record I was trying to get oddRabbit to talk more about this, not trying to immediately lynch him. The shit he was saying didn't make any goddamn sense, and I thought if he kept going he might slip up and say something revealing or contradictory, so I was trying to pressure him into doing so. Two people immediately failing to get what I was doing and one of them claiming I was being illogical within fifteen minutes before Odd had a chance to respond did not fucking help though; thanks for that, Piano, you dead scum asshole.

Just for the record, I'd like to point out that Piano was doing a pretty solid job as scum, here. He saw Psy ask me a question, and figured out a way to reword the question as an accusation so that it looked like Psy was the one accusing me.

The one useful thing this tells me is that I don't think Psy is likely to be scum. This strikes me more as a clever attack of opportunity on Pianotm's part than an intentional double-team by scum; I don't think they'd associate with each-other that obviously when fabricating a false accusation.

So, psy is at the top of my town leads right now, and demonlord is a step down. I actually think oddrabbit is the most likely scum, because he just immediately abandoned the whole discord thing as soon as I pointed out that being pinged on discord makes him far more likely to be scum, and hoped we would forget about it.

author=LockeZ
Just for the record, I'd like to point out that Piano was doing a pretty solid job as scum, here. He saw Psy ask me a question, and figured out a way to reword the question as an accusation so that it looked like Psy was the one accusing me.

The one useful thing this tells me is that I don't think Psy is likely to be scum. This strikes me more as a clever attack of opportunity on Pianotm's part than an intentional double-team by scum; I don't think they'd associate with each-other that obviously when fabricating a false accusation.

I drew the same conclusions; its the gist of my case for you as well. Its not that I find piano coming to Cap's defense suspicious, its that he was arguing with you over the Cap vote at all. If the two of you were scum working together, I don't see how its productive to blatantly contradict the other's reasoning unless you were trying to set up a bus. The fact that piano went out of his way to try and throw shade on you makes it even less likely.

Simple: Good place to start. To me, he was acting the scummiest yesterday, for reasons you've pointed out yourself, previously. Kind of weird to go after Liberty after one single post. I'm not positive on him, and I need to play catchup with the thread to form new thoughts.

I'm playing around with the idea of you being the independant LockeZ, but I'm convinced you're not scum. Also everyone needs to get off this idea of demonlord not being town. If he was, why the hell would piano have tried to vote for him? To bus him? For what purpose? That doesn't strike me as piano's style so demon's town for sure.

Psy could you elaborate on why Muffle is a candidate because I'm not seeing it.

Right now both isrieri and psy both look town to me. If isrieri were scum, he would have had no reason to go after piano at the time because nobody was suspicious of him. Likewise psy was rather early on the piano train while not many people were suspicious, and lockez gives good reasoning for why psy might be town as well. I feel like if either of them were scum, they could have easily just got on the lynch demon train and nobody would have really been that suspicious of it just because I was painting a big target on my back by being aggressive in my reasonings.

As for myself, basically what isrieri said. I'm not sure if scum vigilante is even a possible thing, but I was planning on using my kill tonight in order to prove my role, and whoever gets interrogated tonight can back my claim on being interrogated and how the role works.

Odd and gourd I have no reason to vote for right now. I gave my reasoning for odd already. Since liberty didn't really play on day 1, I don't have a reason to not vote for gourd, but I feel like there are stronger candidates.

Between lockez and caps arguments for this day phase, I feel like lockez is making a stronger case right now. Cap was also being really aggressive on day 1, but that's not unheard of for him playing scum. I feel like lockez wouldn't be defending psy if he were town. If all else fails, I can still shoot lockez if cap flips town, assuming I'm not nightkilled.

#lynch cap_h

Correction: I feel like lockez wouldn't be defending psy if he were scum. I could have sworn I typed that, but easy enough to fix.

LockeZ trying to see Demon as a wolf today is a bad logic from him. Scum would always benefit from a nk. Also Doc isn't that unlikely with a vig in the game.
And he has a dirty mouth in this game (LockeZ).
Psy had a point about Muffle. I guess my POE is quite good.
Both LockeZ and Gourd tried to continue suspecting odd, keeping a wider list of people to vote. But I think the rest of Gourd's post was ok.
It was Muffle, who hammered for potential credit. Odd would benefit more from piano not dying if he were a wolf.

I didn't vote yesterday, because I didn't make the deadline. I wouldn't vote piano and I would try to convince you to vote either Odd or Psy.

Reading my own post on page 6, you can see I at least distanced from Piano.

author=LockeZ
Everyone else's posts just seem like normal posts so far. A bunch of joke votes for no reason.

Except for Cap_H's vote where he acts like Demonlord's joke vote is serious, and is complaining about the timing and reasoning behind it. That's also really obviously scummy. But I can't vote for both him and Muffle, so I'll stick with Muffle for now.

I don't really like LockeZ return and his reason to scumread me.
Piano's vote on confirms odd as town.
Muffle has a good long post on page 6 with one exception, there's no read on Piano.

author=pianotm

Isrieri

LockeZ
I think a Muffle lynch is uncalled for right now.

But she's still more likely to be scum than, like, Pianotm.

Why

LockeZ has probably noticed that I always tend to follow trains and vote haphazardly on day one. Sometimes, I even try to lead a bandwagon, though I will more commonly work to build up an existing one.

author=pianotm
In fact, now that I think about it, Cap_H has correctly identified that I'm not voting as wildly as I usually do.

Ok, this is it for me. Muffle is the one.
#cancel
#lynch Muffle