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[MAFIA] THE RESISTANCE: AVALON MAFIA - GAME ON
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Gourd_Clae
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Close*Just to add to my last post, I didn't connect how that was a scummy thing to do before you mentioned it, which in hindsight I agree.
author=Kylaila
Otherwise muffle feels very fumbly messy, but again, we just had an example of that being a possible unrelated thing (the messing up quotes afterwards felt genuine tho, and I don't feel it was as precise or intentional). So I will hold off the jumping, but any such insinuations are bad for town, so please be careful guys.
I totally believe muffle messed up her quotes on accident, and is being a mess, I just don't really think it makes her look town.
Also, as a semi-unrelated note, I would like for PA to play more.
Hey, I've been rather busy yesterday. I'll post some analysis later today (I have ten hours of work and fifteen hours on bus ahead of me).
author=Gourd_Claeauthor=KylailaI totally believe muffle messed up her quotes on accident, and is being a mess, I just don't really think it makes her look town.
Otherwise muffle feels very fumbly messy, but again, we just had an example of that being a possible unrelated thing (the messing up quotes afterwards felt genuine tho, and I don't feel it was as precise or intentional). So I will hold off the jumping, but any such insinuations are bad for town, so please be careful guys.
Also, as a semi-unrelated note, I would like for PA to play more.
Good point. I'll think about it more and try to get a clearer opinion on her. And also see if I can reread YM comments up to now.
(first food tho, technically I have time today but it's all between small things, so sorry if I couldn't like, do more right now in my waking hours)
PlatinumAshes
I am now certain that you are not scum and are just town trying to play scum as hard as possible.
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@Psy (about Cap) Yes, maybe scum would be too cautious to Hammer. I guess I just don't see why he would do it other than he was too sure that IF was scum to wait and hear more.
@LockeZ Actually that might be you. Your posts so far really seem like town posts so far. Even though there isn't as much material, your posts contain much more substance than those of other players so I'm still fairly confident in this. Other town reads for me are Ky, piano and psy, for similar reasons. This read is someehat less confident since (correct me if I'm wrong I haven't reread it) they all voted up IF yesterday.
I know that his slip up had many legitimately suspicious. However there's a possibility that some scum players were voting him up too. They would have thought they could get away with it because of how bad IF looked at the time.
@LockeZ Actually that might be you. Your posts so far really seem like town posts so far. Even though there isn't as much material, your posts contain much more substance than those of other players so I'm still fairly confident in this. Other town reads for me are Ky, piano and psy, for similar reasons. This read is someehat less confident since (correct me if I'm wrong I haven't reread it) they all voted up IF yesterday.
I know that his slip up had many legitimately suspicious. However there's a possibility that some scum players were voting him up too. They would have thought they could get away with it because of how bad IF looked at the time.
#accept OzzyTheOne, Yellow_Magic, oddRABBIT
I'm just joining the bandwagon on this one, I liked the logic, and it seemed pointless to not accept it.
Uh, in terms of reads... So far, Piano gives me an odd feeling, but that isn"t backed up by anything and is simply random.
So far, I do think Muffle is suspicious because of her weird Merlin-is-Psy statement, so I agree with Ozzy there. It may have been a slip-up on her part, but I do think it to be really suspicious.
LockeZ feels like a strong town to me, same with Psy. They both have been really helpful to town, and have put in a lot of input. I would put Piano in this section aa well, but once again, weird feeling.
Ozzy still feels suspicious to me, but the majority of people think he's Lancelot? If that's the case, he's basically confirmed town I think?
I do think scum missing the night kill was strange. Probably they did hit Lancelot, but there's another super stupid way for them to have missed a nightkill, which is that Oberon, the traitor or whatever you all called him, is the only one allowed to regularly nightkill, after all his fellow Minions of Mordred are dead. I highly, highly doubt this is the case, though. That would leave Mafia at a huge disadvantage the entire game.
So, uh, that's my thoughts thus far. If any questions are asked of me, I'll try to.respond as soon as possible. I'll also try to hwlp out when possible.
I'm just joining the bandwagon on this one, I liked the logic, and it seemed pointless to not accept it.
Uh, in terms of reads... So far, Piano gives me an odd feeling, but that isn"t backed up by anything and is simply random.
So far, I do think Muffle is suspicious because of her weird Merlin-is-Psy statement, so I agree with Ozzy there. It may have been a slip-up on her part, but I do think it to be really suspicious.
LockeZ feels like a strong town to me, same with Psy. They both have been really helpful to town, and have put in a lot of input. I would put Piano in this section aa well, but once again, weird feeling.
Ozzy still feels suspicious to me, but the majority of people think he's Lancelot? If that's the case, he's basically confirmed town I think?
I do think scum missing the night kill was strange. Probably they did hit Lancelot, but there's another super stupid way for them to have missed a nightkill, which is that Oberon, the traitor or whatever you all called him, is the only one allowed to regularly nightkill, after all his fellow Minions of Mordred are dead. I highly, highly doubt this is the case, though. That would leave Mafia at a huge disadvantage the entire game.
So, uh, that's my thoughts thus far. If any questions are asked of me, I'll try to.respond as soon as possible. I'll also try to hwlp out when possible.
PlatinumAshes
I am now certain that you are not scum and are just town trying to play scum as hard as possible.
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author=oddRABBIT
I do think scum missing the night kill was strange. Probably they did hit Lancelot, but there's another super stupid way for them to have missed a nightkill, which is that Oberon, the traitor or whatever you all called him, is the only one allowed to regularly nightkill, after all his fellow Minions of Mordred are dead. I highly, highly doubt this is the case, though. That would leave Mafia at a huge disadvantage the entire game.
What do you mean by this oddRABBIT? Do you mean that Oberon forgot to declare a night-kill yesterday? If there is an Oberon, there is certainly other scum left besides him, so it would be their job declare a night-kill. Do think they forgot?
That would be a possibility, but I don't think it's likely. It would be a huge mess-up by scum. Also, I honestly think Jeroen would not allow it happen. He would give scum a little extra time to declare a night-kill if the hammer caught them off-guard, especially on the first night.
Finally here,
I would like to comment on this page first.
Hammer isn't ai in my case. It would be if there were my buddy on a chopping board. In that case I would hammer to avoid turnover.
Odd actually posting reads and game related observations is a good look for him by my reckoning.
Now is time to take a look back and read what Middle wrote.
I would like to comment on this page first.
Hammer isn't ai in my case. It would be if there were my buddy on a chopping board. In that case I would hammer to avoid turnover.
Odd actually posting reads and game related observations is a good look for him by my reckoning.
Now is time to take a look back and read what Middle wrote.
author=PlatinumAshesauthor=oddRABBITWhat do you mean by this oddRABBIT? Do you mean that Oberon forgot to declare a night-kill yesterday? If there is an Oberon, there is certainly other scum left besides him, so it would be their job declare a night-kill. Do think they forgot?
I do think scum missing the night kill was strange. Probably they did hit Lancelot, but there's another super stupid way for them to have missed a nightkill, which is that Oberon, the traitor or whatever you all called him, is the only one allowed to regularly nightkill, after all his fellow Minions of Mordred are dead. I highly, highly doubt this is the case, though. That would leave Mafia at a huge disadvantage the entire game.
That would be a possibility, but I don't think it's likely. It would be a huge mess-up by scum. Also, I honestly think Jeroen would not allow it happen. He would give scum a little extra time to declare a night-kill if the hammer caught them off-guard, especially on the first night.
I think what Odd means that there could be this chance of there only being one scum, and that being Oberon, and Oberon might think there is other scum when there is not and forget to nightkill? Am I reading that right?
If that was the case, I don't think Jereon would leave them in the dark, nor would it be balanced well. (which is also why Odd added the "highly unlikely" stamp)
Also @PA yes, I voted first due to my not feeling comfy with Infectionfiles, and psy and piano changed ships from demonlord to IF after IF changed to lynch demonlord despite reading him town for no good reason (that happens page 18)
looking at it again, LockeZ did change to vote IF too though.
I don't see any issue with that much myself though, the screw-up was really strange.
I don't see any issue with that much myself though, the screw-up was really strange.
I'm on my phone, so going page by page is necessary.
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Starts with a good remark from LockeZ.
I think Muffle's annoyed wall is problematic. I think she might be faking the dramatic tone. Reading PA goodie and Merlin for the fake outing isn't very real reason as well.
Demon's commentary is very calm and reserved, timewise leaning on goodie there.
Izzy's point of view is very one sided. The whole comment seems to be throwing dirt at Psy.
My after being very reasonable joins for no reason at all...
I think Ozzy being in the thread and reacting is a good look for him. Information he provides is surface level (on page 21 at least), but he doesn't struggle to post.
21.
Starts with a good remark from LockeZ.
I think Muffle's annoyed wall is problematic. I think she might be faking the dramatic tone. Reading PA goodie and Merlin for the fake outing isn't very real reason as well.
Demon's commentary is very calm and reserved, timewise leaning on goodie there.
Izzy's point of view is very one sided. The whole comment seems to be throwing dirt at Psy.
My after being very reasonable joins for no reason at all...
I think Ozzy being in the thread and reacting is a good look for him. Information he provides is surface level (on page 21 at least), but he doesn't struggle to post.
22. Izzy's claim makes sense.
Reads like w/w distancing to me or a wolf keeping back doors opened.
This reads more like Merlin hunting than scumhunting. It's a witty question.
I don't think I want Psy on the team. He's pushing himself forward a lot as if he wanted to get confirmed not Mordred asap. If there's a wolf team without Mordred, I would suspect Psy to be on it.
But that said the content he provides is too good for me to suspect him rn otherwise. My opinion is: accept Kylaila, Demonlord, Odd
author=Yellow Magic
I suppose I should still be cautious of Muffle BUT I have to admit the list made earlier wasn't entirely scummy, and she seems to have NOT waited on the IF bandwagon.
Reads like w/w distancing to me or a wolf keeping back doors opened.
author=Yellow Magic
@psy_wombatssorry I'm still not sure why you're proposing the same team? That seems like something that would aid you if you knew for certain none of the three people in this group were Mordred....
This reads more like Merlin hunting than scumhunting. It's a witty question.
I don't think I want Psy on the team. He's pushing himself forward a lot as if he wanted to get confirmed not Mordred asap. If there's a wolf team without Mordred, I would suspect Psy to be on it.
But that said the content he provides is too good for me to suspect him rn otherwise. My opinion is: accept Kylaila, Demonlord, Odd
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Hm, I think that the way PA talks about nk is wifom. It's misleading.
Piano's comment has one characteristic we can officially consider Towny after Ozzy did it. It agrees on points a lot. And the follow-up is good too.
CONGRATS, ODD!
Muffle doesn't appeal to emotion here and I like that from her. Also, I find her proposal and LockeZ's swift agreement intriguing enough to also #accept odd, Ozzy, ym.
Hm, I think that the way PA talks about nk is wifom. It's misleading.
Piano's comment has one characteristic we can officially consider Towny after Ozzy did it. It agrees on points a lot. And the follow-up is good too.
CONGRATS, ODD!
Muffle doesn't appeal to emotion here and I like that from her. Also, I find her proposal and LockeZ's swift agreement intriguing enough to also #accept odd, Ozzy, ym.
Ok, one bad read. The amount of posts from Kylaila makes her more likely town.
I have some serious love for LockeZ and his posts today.
Muffle is a good wagon and I might place my vote on her after making a further analysis of her posts on the bus later today.
Just a simple list to show where I am at:
vvv - Ozzy, LockeZ
vv - Piano, Kylaila
v - Psy, Gourd, Demonlord, Odd
w - Platinum
ww - YM, Muffle
www - 0
I have some serious love for LockeZ and his posts today.
Muffle is a good wagon and I might place my vote on her after making a further analysis of her posts on the bus later today.
Just a simple list to show where I am at:
vvv - Ozzy, LockeZ
vv - Piano, Kylaila
v - Psy, Gourd, Demonlord, Odd
w - Platinum
ww - YM, Muffle
www - 0
So, going over things.
Muffle's been suspected from early on (especially by YM, but YM is mellowing out now, or was, partly because muffle didn't jump on the IF bandwagon).
For me, there's this huge disconnect between judging by my good and judging by contributions alone.
Undoubtedly, psy LockeZ and piano stand out in their rational-based analysis. LockeZ feels most genuine in that being his style.
Gut-wise, I still find it hard to get a read on either psy and piano, and that has been an issue from day 1 which also has me a bit antsy about them being together on a team. While all three of them are kind-of town leading for me, with psy contributing the most so far (but I can't fully trust them using gut), and demon mellowing up for me, it's still not sitting right with me, emotionally. But then again, I doubt they would want to draw suspicion - in the off-chance they were scum - so it'd succeed, and I'd be happy to see that happen. So hmmm. Anyway, I leave teams aside for now.
PA is by actions one of the most contested and with Lancelot out in the open rationally worst-off players, but I don't get any funny vibes from him.
Muffle has put forth mostly messy posts, though they feel genuine. Implications being ? Messy town or clever scum? It'd be easy to lay low, and going by the gut, I think day 1 would work a lot better than for people just reading limited info, but I totally get that it's highly unreliable at that point regardless of your style. I'd tag her more suspicious right now, but I have no reason to commit to the lynch right now, I would rather continue the conversation a bit longer to get more viewpoints out of her. That'd be good regardless of what comes after that, imo.
Rereading, gourdy's points read quite well, though I feel they try to stay out of the action a lot, and I feel a bit suspicious, gut-wise.
YM reads edgy LOL. I really can't say more, feels like his style tho, but sadly that's little to go by for either side of the world. I think it just makes it feel less scummy because it is so out there and not afraid to rub people the wrong way, but the content reads more scummy.
Cap_H is a quite aggressive player, but also a bold one because of it. I am getting good vibes, though I don't always know how to place everything.
So basically, I am torn between different ways to sort my impressions, and I would rather find something where my gut-feeling aligns with what we are reading. Which also makes me want to have both, basically. (it need some quiet time to let impressions settle tho)
And crap, I need to hurry now, got an appointment.
Muffle's been suspected from early on (especially by YM, but YM is mellowing out now, or was, partly because muffle didn't jump on the IF bandwagon).
For me, there's this huge disconnect between judging by my good and judging by contributions alone.
Undoubtedly, psy LockeZ and piano stand out in their rational-based analysis. LockeZ feels most genuine in that being his style.
Gut-wise, I still find it hard to get a read on either psy and piano, and that has been an issue from day 1 which also has me a bit antsy about them being together on a team. While all three of them are kind-of town leading for me, with psy contributing the most so far (but I can't fully trust them using gut), and demon mellowing up for me, it's still not sitting right with me, emotionally. But then again, I doubt they would want to draw suspicion - in the off-chance they were scum - so it'd succeed, and I'd be happy to see that happen. So hmmm. Anyway, I leave teams aside for now.
PA is by actions one of the most contested and with Lancelot out in the open rationally worst-off players, but I don't get any funny vibes from him.
Muffle has put forth mostly messy posts, though they feel genuine. Implications being ? Messy town or clever scum? It'd be easy to lay low, and going by the gut, I think day 1 would work a lot better than for people just reading limited info, but I totally get that it's highly unreliable at that point regardless of your style. I'd tag her more suspicious right now, but I have no reason to commit to the lynch right now, I would rather continue the conversation a bit longer to get more viewpoints out of her. That'd be good regardless of what comes after that, imo.
Rereading, gourdy's points read quite well, though I feel they try to stay out of the action a lot, and I feel a bit suspicious, gut-wise.
YM reads edgy LOL. I really can't say more, feels like his style tho, but sadly that's little to go by for either side of the world. I think it just makes it feel less scummy because it is so out there and not afraid to rub people the wrong way, but the content reads more scummy.
Cap_H is a quite aggressive player, but also a bold one because of it. I am getting good vibes, though I don't always know how to place everything.
So basically, I am torn between different ways to sort my impressions, and I would rather find something where my gut-feeling aligns with what we are reading. Which also makes me want to have both, basically. (it need some quiet time to let impressions settle tho)
And crap, I need to hurry now, got an appointment.
Oh, also, "all of three of them kinda town leading" I mean team psy, piano, demonlord. Talking about the proposed team.
Between LockeZ, psy and piano I find LockeZ the most trustworthy, due to gut-feeling and fact-reading aligning the most. Not that that wasn't clear, but yknow.
Between LockeZ, psy and piano I find LockeZ the most trustworthy, due to gut-feeling and fact-reading aligning the most. Not that that wasn't clear, but yknow.
PlatinumAshes
I am now certain that you are not scum and are just town trying to play scum as hard as possible.
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author=Cap_H
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Hm, I think that the way PA talks about nk is wifom. It's misleading.
What does wifom mean? And why am I misleading?
