[MAFIA] PRISONER'S DILEMMA. GAME OVER

Well, then, I'm just going to have to revise my opinion on AlaskanEmily since there's no way I can reliably make that judgment based on playstyle alone.

author=tale
Isn't anyone with bothered with my post to Liberty from D1?

author=tale
There's something Liberty said earlier that seems off to me.

author=Liberty
Well, if we all picked vanilla at least we know we're all equal!

Source- https://rpgmaker.net/forums/topics/24686/?post=887129#post887129

Vanilla town and vanilla mafia can be the best of friends? Maybe in the beginning but for how long.

In what way? This seems like a pretty natural thing to say early on D1.

Even if it was suspicious, then like...I guess of course it was? She was scum, and she already died. But seriously, I don't think there is any deeper meaning to this. Why do you keep bring it up?

*not involved in the night

In regards to the Fomar vote, he tried to hammer Psy. Neither Liberty nor Psy was around when the first Psy train was going. I don't think that a newbie scum would've hammered his comrades. I am now certain that Fomar is just a newbie town and not a coached scum.

I still kind of feel like I haven't fully digested the interactions people had with Liberty, knowing now that she was scum.

The more I think about it, the more I wonder if Piano and Liberty weren't trying to turn up their argument specifically to take focus off of Psy, and then finally agreed that instead we should all vote for Shinan.

I still have this nagging feeling that the entire interaction was largely a show, on both sides. I would really prefer we lynch Piano this time.

Re:Tale, looking back I really don't like the post of nothing but a cancel. I think most of the time posts with nothing but a vote are very suspicious. But Tale also did take Psy up to one vote away from hammer, so...I'm not really sure what to think.

author=OzzyTheOne
In regards to the Fomar vote, he tried to hammer Psy. Neither Liberty nor Psy was around when the first Psy train was going. I don't think that a newbie scum would've hammered his comrades. I am now certain that Fomar is just a newbie town and not a coached scum.

That does makes sense to me. And pretty much any realistic prearranged plan for fomar to be the one to hammer probably wouldn't have played out the way it did, I think.

author=CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK

CURRENT VOTECOUNT
Psy_Wombats (7): Shinan, Pianotm, Ivoryjones, pianotm, Oddrabbit, Tale, demonlord, Fomar, Ozzy, Ozzy, Ivoryjones, PlatinumAshes, AlaskanEmily, Demonlord

Psy's first post on day one came before Shinan's vote. Here it is.

psy_wombats
I was punished for my insolence and appointed the Despised Turbo Death Miller, howdy all

On my way to the next Shinan vote, I spotted this.

AlaskanEmily
I don't like not lynching the first day, especially in a game with this many players it's a good way to get more information.

#lynch tale

Although it is tempting to lynch Liberty instead, since I was all but promised flaming and that hasn't happened. But my will is stronger than that. I think.

I don't like this post. It's in direct response to tale voting to nolynch. This seems a rather strong response to nolynch.

Very first Day 2 post.

AlaskanEmily
...scum was NK?

Well, that's certainly...a play.

Nothing particularly odd about it, but...lampshading for the win, amirite? Then she follows up with this.

AlaskanEmily
Right now I am seriously suspicious of Piano, still.

For the lynch, when he was saying things like "you might as well vote for me", that kind of looks like a subtle way to try to get some people to switch their vote to him when town didn't just immediately think Psy was in the clear.

I also still don't feel like either side of the Liberty/Piano argument was all that...honest. I could absolutely believe they were both scum.

But like...maybe I'm just not that experienced in the ways of the mafia, but what is the deal with the scum kill? Is that just to make it...harder for town to not mislynch? Is it to sow some kind of confusion about whether our other other suspicions were correct, or were false?

It seems like the prevailing argument against me is that I just outed all scum for a super-scumplay. Cool. Ozzy was pushing it, too, and so was PA. Nobody was suspicious of Ozzy because he shot Libby. Great shot, by the way! I mean, what the fuck? I call out two scum. I specifically said that they were scum. Psy has limited internet access. I remember this from a previous game, and it's fucked up his play in the past. I want to be fair to him, which is apparently super scummy. Then I agree with Libby that I want Shinan to talk more, but the damage is done, and scum died because of it. Here's the thing, if I'm looking at someone who's generated conversation that's outed scum and gotten them killed, I'm not going to then accuse that person of being scum, and I'm going to be very suspicious of anyone that does. This is the prime reason I said that if Ozzy wasn't confirmed town, I'd swear he was scum.

Shinan
I feel like I did good in the first day. So I've done my part and will let y'all choose the rest of the correct people to murder.

#lynch AlaskanEmily

You know, maybe Shinan really is playing the game. Maybe he's actually paying attention and knows what's going on here. Maybe by not talking and observing, he's remaining emotionally detached and seeing things more clearly than rest of us. I could have been dead wrong about Psy and Libby, but you know, I said it knowing it was stupid thing to say.

pianotm
Also, this is as good a time as any to mention that psy_wombats is probably scum.

#lynch psy_wombats

pianotm
Psy_wombat's evasions are strongly suspect. I was easy to defend against. THIS on the other hand, is in-your-face scummery.

#cancel
#Lynch Liberty

I dare you to tell me to my face that this didn't happen.

#cancel
#Lynch AlaskanEmily

That ninja piano post. I'm going to wait and see what emily has to say about it for now.

My biggest reason is piano lead the charge against psy. It makes sense for scum to bus under the right circumstances, but I have to ask myself: Why would scum bus someone like psy on day 1? He's usually a pretty good player in any role. Other than that, piano also went after liberty pretty hard. You could argue the liberty/piano thing was putting on a show, but I still don't see that psy bus happening.

Yeah that's another thing. Psy was a role cop, which isn't a role you'd be bussing I think unless you absolutely needed to in order to look town. If piano was on psy's team, then psy would have told piano his role in scum chat.

Well, I've got to get blood drawn tomorrow morning. I'm reluctant, though since last time I slept, there was a bandwagon I wanted to be part of, and then got blamed for a bunch of stuff.

Also, I better

#cancel