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This is quite possibly the BEST SPOOF EVER:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDDHHrt6l4w&eurl=http://www.vgcats.com/index.php&feature=player_embedded
WATCHMEN: Saturday morning cartoon.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDDHHrt6l4w&eurl=http://www.vgcats.com/index.php&feature=player_embedded
WATCHMEN: Saturday morning cartoon.
author=Feldschlacht IV link=topic=3224.msg65616#msg65616 date=1236544136UK. I'm not 18+ and definitely do not look like it!
Where do you live?
This looks stupid and I have no interest in it. Not even a "visionary" (lol) director can save it for me.
I would not describe Snyder as a vizionary director at all. He is more of a workmanlike trancriber. But the graphic novel on this is based is an important work of american literature and is generally agreed upon as the best and most meaningful graphic novel ever so, this is a bad attitude to cop.
I agree with you that this movie's trailers look pretty bad.
author=kentona link=topic=3224.msg65740#msg65740 date=1236613175
This is quite possibly the BEST SPOOF EVER:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDDHHrt6l4w&eurl=http://www.vgcats.com/index.php&feature=player_embedded
WATCHMEN: Saturday morning cartoon.
Ouch. My...soul...
Seriously, I am a pretty big fan of Neil Gaiman's "Watchdogs" doodle (from basically back when Neil Gaiman was a nobody) featuring a dog Rorshach but it is basically impossible to find on the internet, so I can't show you what I mean.
See also this:
http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j118/Crassus2/MooreonWatchmen.jpg
(It is funnier if you know that Alan Moore is a wizard and worships a snake god in real lfie.)
Blind
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author=Holbert link=topic=3224.msg65649#msg65649 date=1236562597Pretty much this. My friends all tell me is has been a spectacle flick, but since it's been the first film this year that has faintly perked my interest, I may end up going anyhow.
This looks stupid and I have no interest in it. Not even a "visionary" (lol) director can save it for me.
I will probably never see this movie as I never really watch any movies that aren't from the 90's. Guess it looks like a superhero film, though!
I saw Watchmen a few days ago, and thought it was pretty good. I didn't read the graphic novel, but my roommate has a copy. I figured it was worth checking out. I wasn't blown out of my seat or anything, but I really did like the fight sequences. The whole 'blue wang' thing was a bit odd, especially considering how almost all the breast shots are side shots, or completely obscured. They seemed to have no issue with a giant blue wang on the screen though.
The ending was rather cool, my roommate explained the difference from the graphic novel, and I see the bigger picture. I have to say the movie ending seemed a bit more fitting. Anyways, a bit long for the flick, but I did enjoy the film.
The ending was rather cool, my roommate explained the difference from the graphic novel, and I see the bigger picture. I have to say the movie ending seemed a bit more fitting. Anyways, a bit long for the flick, but I did enjoy the film.
Shinan
4314
I saw it today.
It was a bit long.
That was my immediate thought after seeing. No actually that was my thought somewhere near the end of it. At the end I thought, damn this song is good. The soundtrack is glorious, you can't go wrong with Leonard Cohen. And all that other stuff.
But yeah it was a bit long and the pacing felt a bit off some times. I think it is an adaption problem. You can have a wall of text in one frame in a comic book but you can't have that in a movie. So there was a lot of coolness and depth and all that. And it was damn gorgeous. Goddamn it was gorgeous.
Man. It looked really good. But I guess it really does suffer a bit from being a direct adaption, basically it's just an imitation. It's a great imitation but it's still just an imitation.
It was a bit long.
That was my immediate thought after seeing. No actually that was my thought somewhere near the end of it. At the end I thought, damn this song is good. The soundtrack is glorious, you can't go wrong with Leonard Cohen. And all that other stuff.
But yeah it was a bit long and the pacing felt a bit off some times. I think it is an adaption problem. You can have a wall of text in one frame in a comic book but you can't have that in a movie. So there was a lot of coolness and depth and all that. And it was damn gorgeous. Goddamn it was gorgeous.
Man. It looked really good. But I guess it really does suffer a bit from being a direct adaption, basically it's just an imitation. It's a great imitation but it's still just an imitation.
I saw it last night.
It was awesome.
That was my immediate thought after seeing it. I was engrossed with the movie start to finish, and strangely, unlike other long movies that I enjoyed, it didn't feel long at all. That is unusual for me.
My next thought was that my friend is a retard for thinking that this movie "doesn't look good".
I liked the new ending more than the graphic novel's, too - it made more sense to me. The only thing missing was Laurie's and Jon's conversation about how, while Jon knows the future, he still must act it out.
Great soundtrack, too!
It was awesome.
That was my immediate thought after seeing it. I was engrossed with the movie start to finish, and strangely, unlike other long movies that I enjoyed, it didn't feel long at all. That is unusual for me.
My next thought was that my friend is a retard for thinking that this movie "doesn't look good".
I liked the new ending more than the graphic novel's, too - it made more sense to me. The only thing missing was Laurie's and Jon's conversation about how, while Jon knows the future, he still must act it out.
Great soundtrack, too!
Shadowtext
120
author=kentona link=topic=3224.msg66597#msg66597 date=1237038606Yeah, the pacing was great. The only thing that reminded me just how long I had been in the theater was that I had to go to the bathroom in the middle of it. Almost missed the "Rorschach holds Dan's hand too long" thing.
That was my immediate thought after seeing it. I was engrossed with the movie start to finish, and strangely, unlike other long movies that I enjoyed, it didn't feel long at all. That is unusual for me.
It was pretty cool. I haven't read the graphic novel version yet (I figured chances were if I read it before seeing the movie I'd be comparing the movie to the comic for the whole thing and that would make it a lot harder to take), but it was pretty watchable. I knew it was going to be dark and violent going in, but I was amused to notice parents were STILL bringing their kids in to watch it. I'm glad I wasn't one of them when they got to the impotence plotline.
I liked Adrian more than I expected I would, but he's still a total douche. So is Rorschach. But they were interesting douches, so that's all right.
Mr. Y
300
I read the comic and enjoyed it, but not sure I'll make it to the movie. A friend who's a big comic buff and fan of Watchmen said the movie was pretty good, but common consensus seems that it's just too damn long to be enjoyable.
Besides that, I feel Alan Moore's concerns about the importance of the medium may be valid; the anticlimactic ending from the comics is more forgivable if you're able to flip back and forth to identify themes, anaphora of concepts, etc., whereas a movie either needs to be blatant, have less stuff to chew on, or be more obscure about it. Watchmen was made as a series of comics to be picked up, put down, and digested at a slow pace; a movie running over 2 hours non-stop cuts down the story while preventing the viewer from putting it down. But then again, I'm being pretty unfair without having seen the movie :).
Besides that, I feel Alan Moore's concerns about the importance of the medium may be valid; the anticlimactic ending from the comics is more forgivable if you're able to flip back and forth to identify themes, anaphora of concepts, etc., whereas a movie either needs to be blatant, have less stuff to chew on, or be more obscure about it. Watchmen was made as a series of comics to be picked up, put down, and digested at a slow pace; a movie running over 2 hours non-stop cuts down the story while preventing the viewer from putting it down. But then again, I'm being pretty unfair without having seen the movie :).
I liked Adrian more than I expected I would, but he's still a total douche. So is Rorschach. But they were interesting douches, so that's all right.
I have always thought it an interesting commentary on myself that I found Rorschach by far the most likeable and morally correct character in Watchmen (comic book and movie) moreso than either Dan or Laurie. (Okay, Hollis Mason is a totally righteous dude, but isn't really a major character (especially in the movie) so let's just say he's out of the running.)
Back to the somewhat controersial statement that Rorschach is the best person in the comic out of the main characters. I don't mean because of his views on "prostitutes" or "homosexuals" or any shit like that, and I'm aware of his obvious freudian psychosexual issues, ultimately I felt that HIS reaction to what Veidt did at the end (that's not a spoiler, is it? speaking in vagaries here.) was the only one that was even close to morally acceptable.
Also, I feel that it was a cop-out on the part of Alan Moore (yes I am accusing the writer of the world's most critically acclaimed graphic novel of a single incidence of BAD WRITING, let the avalanche follow) to have Rorschach just
LET John do what he did in the end. I feel that Alan Moore was taking the easy way out by making Rorschach suicidal and hence condoning his own death. Mad dogs generally don't WANT to be put down and I felt it was totally out of character for him to just give in like that. It might have been less thematically appropriate for him to go down fighting against obviously unsurmountable odds, but I can't imagine him giving up. Needless to say, Rorschach's death was the saddest and most poignant moment of the story for me and I think about it a lot.
Anyway, this has turned into a long, rambling over-analysis. Final thought: can you really call Rorschach a "douche" compared to the unbelievable douchebaggery of someone like veidt? People with less fucked-up childhoods than Rorschach's become serial killers and child molesters. He became a hero, in his own slightly fucked up and retarded way, which is of course no less fucked up or retarded than Dan "saving lives is first and foremost my viagra" Dreiberg.
Kindredz
7
I didn't think the movie was that great...and the chick that played Laurie was just awful. Terrible, terrible actress...
...but holy shit at the chick that played Silhouette. She was on screen all of 3 seconds and completely shut down every other female in the movie...
...but holy shit at the chick that played Silhouette. She was on screen all of 3 seconds and completely shut down every other female in the movie...
author=Max
LET John do what he did in the end. I feel that Alan Moore was taking the easy way out by making Rorschach suicidal and hence condoning his own death. Mad dogs generally don't WANT to be put down and I felt it was totally out of character for him to just give in like that. It might have been less thematically appropriate for him to go down fighting against obviously unsurmountable odds, but I can't imagine him giving up. Needless to say, Rorschach's death was the saddest and most poignant moment of the story for me and I think about it a lot.
To me, he actually WAS fighting against insurmountable odds, until his dying breath. He would never, ever let Ozy get away with what he did. He knew that he couldn't beat the 3 of them...he knew that making a stance would more than likely mean his death...and he did it anyway. The last real hero died when R died.
