RMN PIXEL ART CONTEST #2
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author=Natook link=topic=4018.msg81551#msg81551 date=1245443647*today
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Wednesday, July 8th, through Saturday, July 11th is the deadline for entires
Does this mean that it has to be submitted within that time frame, or can it be sent in early?
Also, I really have to mention some things that I saw that popped up in the last one. I've been doing pixel art for a long time now, and I have to make it clear that a lot of entries simply were not pixel art. Even the winning entry was very very close to not being considered pixel art at all. Just because something was made in MS Paint and is made up of hard pixels does NOT mean that it is a pixel art piece.
For these reasons, I very seriously suggest that the dimension guidelines be changed severely. 120x120 sounds more like a maximum than a minimum (this is pixel art, after allâ€"minimum dimensions should be tiny; something like 25x25 sounds reasonable), and an 800x800 image is absolutely insane, unless you expect somebody to create a tileset and screenshot a map they make with it (or if you expect them to simply make a drawing in MS Paint without actually doing mushc pixel-placing).
Good luck to all the entries. I want to enter myself, if I have time.
Just because something was made in MS Paint and is made up of hard pixels does NOT mean that it is a pixel art piece.
I disagree, pixel-by-pixel drawing and a limited palette are basically the only rules to pixel art... right?
Also, I don't see why someone can't do a 800x800 mockup piece if they want. It would show they have the panache to take on a canvas of that size.
These rules are going to be changed in the very near future.
THE RULES HAVE BEEN UPDATED
THE RULES HAVE BEEN UPDATED
author=missingno link=topic=4018.msg81558#msg81558 date=1245444332Wednesday, July 8th, through Saturday, July 11th is the deadline for entiresAlso, I really have to mention some things that I saw that popped up in the last one. I've been doing pixel art for a long time now, and I have to make it clear that a lot of entries simply were not pixel art.
Curious, what would you call them if not pixel art?
author=Blitzen link=topic=4018.msg81571#msg81571 date=1245445802Just because something was made in MS Paint and is made up of hard pixels does NOT mean that it is a pixel art piece.
I disagree, pixel-by-pixel drawing and a limited palette are basically the only rules to pixel art... right?
Yes, and a giant picture in MS Paint doesn't necessarily qualify for that. Using the pencil tool and just drawing isn't pixel art neither is using the spray can tool (which appears to have been used in Clest's winning entry). Zooming in and placing each pixel individually and purposely is pixel art.
Obviously it's not something that's so easy to define, and things can probably be classified as pixel art yet still be "less" pixel-arty than others, if that makes sense. It's about the methods much more than it is about the product itself. In most cases, ultimately the end result is what matters, and the methods it takes to get there doesn't matter. But when it's a competition specifically for pixel art skill, it's that kind of thing precisely that does matter.
Also, I don't see why someone can't do a 800x800 mockup piece if they want. It would show they have the panache to take on a canvas of that size.
You're absolutely right. I meant that by stating 800x800 as a maximum would make people want to shoot for that as a goal, which is absolutely ridiculous. A single 800x800 image is nearly unfathomable to a lot of people who are dedicated pixel artists, let alone the beginner. I wasn't saying that people shouldn't have the option to make something that large, but that the mere mention of those numbers would mess with the scale that people have in their minds. I personally think that there should be no maximum dimensions at all, and I'm glad that the contest rules have been updated to agree with this point of view.
I just want to help make the contest more fair and more in like with what the major pixeling websites think of the art form, while keeping in mind the game-design applications of sprites as well.
PS. Note that the Wikipedia pages for Pixel Art (and much more so for the Spriting Page) are pretty much run by the ripping communities and they are pretty skewed in their focus. The fact that the Spriting page has such a focus on ripping graphics should be enough proof of that. For the most part actual spriters have given up on the pages because the sheer numbers of the rippers make it impossible to fix.
you should probably be worrying about the one you've already done ::)
(no is the answer according to WIP)
(no is the answer according to WIP)
author=geodude link=topic=4018.msg81644#msg81644 date=1245469027
you should probably be worrying about the one you've already done ::)
(no is the answer according to WIP)
Aw. It's not that i'm not satisfied with the one i already have, it's that i just plain want to make more. And if i just happen to make a better one...
You can make as many entries as you want, but you can only submit one for final judging.
author=D-Bones link=topic=4018.msg81646#msg81646 date=1245469147WIP and I (mostly him) have made a decision to tighten up the rules, so unfortunately what you submitted in its current state isn't eligible.author=geodude link=topic=4018.msg81644#msg81644 date=1245469027Aw. It's not that i'm not satisfied with the one i already have, it's that i just plain want to make more. And if i just happen to make a better one...
you should probably be worrying about the one you've already done ::)
(no is the answer according to WIP)
I apologize, but since you planned on making multiple submissions anyhow, I hope it isn't too much of an issue to come up with another. You could always try changing it around to meet the new criteria, too.
As for despain's comments, I am not going to make a decision on which specific tools in MS Paint (or any other piece of software) are allowed or not allowed in generating content for this. We're going through the submissions on a piece-by-piece basis, so if we feel what is given to us is inclusive enough to be eligible, it will be.
tools i have used: pencil so far. couple of fills but they are generally allowed in pixel art circles for preliminary and block colouring purposes as a time-saver rather than a cheat. (thanks pixel art communities / OP)
author=ChaosProductions link=topic=4018.msg81663#msg81663 date=1245471859
Probably the plagiarism one.
Hm? I drew it all myself.
no, not the plagiarism one. it's not because of basing something off established material (like Kirby or Mother..3?), that's perfectly allowed, it's because it doesn't reflect discernible gameplay (as in it's not visibly a game as opposed to just a scene or whatever)
suggestion of contest subtitle: MOCKUP MANIA
(if i have this horribly wrong and have carried on thinking otherwise i will be so annoyed)
suggestion of contest subtitle: MOCKUP MANIA
(if i have this horribly wrong and have carried on thinking otherwise i will be so annoyed)
author=geodude link=topic=4018.msg81665#msg81665 date=1245472273Basically this. Your content is based on game characters, but does not give the depiction of actually being a game. Whether the game in question actually exists is irrelevant (like the topic says, it can be a mockup), but it needs to give the impression of actually being a screenshot or segment of gameplay.
no, not the plagiarism one. it's not because of basing something off established material (like Kirby or Mother..3?), that's perfectly allowed, it's because it doesn't reflect discernible gameplay (as in it's not visibly a game as opposed to just a scene or whatever)
suggestion of contest subtitle: MOCKUP MANIA
(if i have this horribly wrong and have carried on thinking otherwise i will be so annoyed)
In addition, game resources are also allowed-- but that didn't seem to be the direction of your piece, so. *shrug*