HYPE AND HOW IT AFFECTS YOU

Hype is just another word for Marketing. If you are posting new screenshots and videos and getting the word out there, public awareness of your project will increase. This can only be a good thing. The only way it will backfire is if you take it to obnoxious levels, such as bumping your game topic every day because you added one new line of text to your battle system paragraph or unveiled a character profile

Actually I can say from firsthand experience it backfires at random and with no rhyme or reason. Even if you're not hyping the most or the second most or the third most obnoxiously, you might still be the only person to suffer a reprisal. It's like when three people pass a cop on the highway, the first doing 90, the second doing 80, and the third doing 70, and only the third gets pulled over for speeding. Sure the third person was speeding and speeding is still wrong, but they were speeding the least and everyone else was doing it. Why do they get singled out? In the case of the analogy, because they are the easiest for cops to catch and pull over. Outside of the analogy? I don't know. But it is in other words, totally unfair and the kind of thing I try really hard not to still have a chip on my shoulder about four years later.

Anyway I hype (market?) much less now, but people occasionally still seemed to think I was over doing it. I don't market my games nearly as much as I think they deserve to be marketed. One, because it's exhausting. Two, because of fear of getting burned because people perceive that I am overdoing it.

Anyway, no matter how much I market (on this site; I know that there are other ways and places to do it) for whatever reason, most of my updates get ignored. I think it's the basic flaw of the site/gamepage system. No one is looking at other people's updates, they're just adding shit to bump (excuse me: market) their own games. Which might have happened when games were advertised on the forums as well, but was not as unchecked or blatant. I'm not saying that system is better.

I don't really have any of the answers.

Actually I can say from firsthand experience it backfires at random and with no rhyme or reason. Even if you're not hyping the most or the second most or the third most obnoxiously, you might still be the only person to suffer a reprisal. It's like when three people pass a cop on the highway, the first doing 90, the second doing 80, and the third doing 70, and only the third gets pulled over for speeding. Sure the third person was speeding and speeding is still wrong, but they were speeding the least and everyone else was doing it. Why do they get singled out? In the case of the analogy, because they are the easiest for cops to catch and pull over. Outside of the analogy? I don't know. But it is in other words, totally unfair and the kind of thing I try really hard not to still have a chip on my shoulder about three years later.

Dude this never happened to me and it doesn't really happen to anyone else either. I want to say this as nicely as I can but I think you're extrapolating your unfortunate past situation onto everyone else and assuming it happens often enough for it to be statistically remarkable. A 'Legion Incident' only happens once in a very blue moon and in general people can get away with marketing their game with no backfiring whatsoever.

No one is looking at other people's updates, they're just adding shit to bump (excuse me: market) their own games.

I know I'm only one person, but I certainly look at other people's updates. There are a slew of projects I'm always excited to see news on. But here's the catch; I'm not interested in EVERYONE'S updates. Sad fact; not every game is going to be interesting to me. Not every GOOD game is going to be interesting to me. Not every good game that I WOULD be interested in will ever even cross my path and I'll go my entire life never seeing it.

Yes it's definitely tragic but sometimes good stuff is passed up and sometimes people just aren't interested in good stuff. But a lot of people are! I can name more than TEN games off the top of my head here that get a good amount of attention for what they're worth and they would get even more so if said game was marketed bettter.

It happened to me, though. And only to me. Don't you see that that just makes it WORSE as far as I'm concerned?

Chalk it up to 'bad luck' and 'shit happens' and get over it, bro!

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Actually I can say from firsthand experience it backfires at random and with no rhyme or reason. Even if you're not hyping the most or the second most or the third most obnoxiously, you might still be the only person to suffer a reprisal. It's like when three people pass a cop on the highway, the first doing 90, the second doing 80, and the third doing 70, and only the third gets pulled over for speeding. Sure the third person was speeding and speeding is still wrong, but they were speeding the least and everyone else was doing it. Why do they get singled out? In the case of the analogy, because they are the easiest for cops to catch and pull over. Outside of the analogy? I don't know. But it is in other words, totally unfair and the kind of thing I try really hard not to still have a chip on my shoulder about three years later.

I don't want to be rude here, but there were reasons you were targeted back then. It was definitely not 'at random'. And it wasn't just you - Badluck ended up getting a lot of jokes/trolls thrown his way for his hype and I think he eventually left the public eye of the RM scene because of it, but in return his game became one of the most well known RM projects. I think Ara Fell was translated into Chinese. I'd say that is well worth it. (As an aside, he intentionally hyped Third Power far less, presumably because of prior experiences, and consequently it is far less known despite being the superior game. What a travesty!) The degree to which one is adversely affected by any backfire is up to the individual. If you shrug it off there will be little impact, people will stop caring and go home. Otherwise, the pack will always pounce on the scent of blood... yes, RPG Making is a cutthroat industry...

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I don't think there was ever a danger of that, but thanks Narcodis.

Clearly you underestimate what an epic feat of getting over it the fact that I'm even HERE represents. If I wasn't over it I would not be even making games, let alone releasing them in a public arena.

...If you were over it, you wouldn't be mentioning it at every opportunity, you giant pansy.

Really, there isn't much to be said on this matter that hasn't been said at this point; so I'll say simply.

JUST

GET

OVER

IT.

God, what the hell is even wrong with you? One moment, you're sitting there flaunting your supposed superior education, the next you're belittling yourself in what I'm assuming is a feeble attempt at feigning humility.

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...If you were over it, you wouldn't be mentioning it at every opportunity, you giant pansy.

... Gonna pipe in here and say that Max hasn't really mentioned IG2 without being prompted in quite some time. That's usually me.

Also, it is entirely relevant to the topic at hand as IG2's cancellation is a perfect example of "Hype and how it affects you".

(I'll admit that the prodding about the IG2 DS photoshop could have been better served elsewhere.)

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On a lighter note I want to know who actually fell for this as an April fools joke a few years ago, so that I may laugh at them.

Hahahaha.

Wait, you're laughing at other people?

LOL this is a very very good post.

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