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HYPE AND HOW IT AFFECTS YOU

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Max McGee
with sorrow down past the fence
9159
How about a pizza roll, Feld?

Cool trailers and screenshots and shit? Yeah, they got that, standard stuff. But how many developers go the extra mile by having shit like an in-universe Daily News (chronicling events that happens in the (large and expansive) Mass Effect universe) that's updated every day? Novels that detail background on characters that are actually interesting and well written? Comics that fill in the timelind gaps between the two games? Bioware has done such a good job with hyping up the Mass Effect series that they'd literally probably convince me to buy a Commander Shepard blow up doll and I can tell you right now that I'll be the line for Mass Effect 3 as well.

I am just thinking about how infuriating and FLAME-MAGNET some of this would be if it was all applied to an RM game.
Would it really, though?

No, I'm not trying to construe that professional developer tactics are always transferable to RM games, or indie games in general, but even that isn't set in stone. Anything can be 'sold' if the 'seller' is clever.
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Would it really, though?

yes
I don't think so! Not fundamentally. If so, why?
Craze
why would i heal when i could equip a morningstar
15170
Because RM* developers are jealous insignificants that don't want others stealing their five players? If you're selling it on these forums, you're doing it wrong.
Solitayre
Circumstance penalty for being the bard.
18257
Craze isn't far off. This community, as it stands now, isn't the market for players. There might be a market for RM games somewhere, but I don't really know where.
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I don't think so! Not fundamentally. If so, why?

because it's ridiculous for commercial games too
Craze
why would i heal when i could equip a morningstar
15170
post=132673
post=132665
I don't think so! Not fundamentally. If so, why?
because it's ridiculous for commercial games too

You're the one with a football avatar making Facebook status updates about Dwarf Fortress. Just because there aren't comics doesn't mean any sort of way to spread something is ridiculous. It's just something that happens, and some groups find better ways to support the word-of-mouth marketing.

EDIT: (tbh I don't know why I am quoting stonebro or making this post)
please enlighten me on what that has to do with this / anything / each other (choose any three)
Craze
why would i heal when i could equip a morningstar
15170
See my edit. It made sense in my head, at first, kind of!
to relate this to something facebook is a great way to hype something because it does all the work for you. you're on your own with barry ferguson and an alpha however
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post=132665
I don't think so! Not fundamentally. If so, why?
because it's ridiculous for commercial games too

Ah, I disagree. I think it's fun, builds excitement, and can generally be entertaining. I've enjoyed Mass Effect's Daily News, trailers books, and comics etc as much as I do the game. I mean, why not? How is that ridiculous?
Ciel
an aristocrat of rpgmaker culture
367
post=132533
How about a pizza roll, Feld?

Cool trailers and screenshots and shit? Yeah, they got that, standard stuff. But how many developers go the extra mile by having shit like an in-universe Daily News (chronicling events that happens in the (large and expansive) Mass Effect universe) that's updated every day? Novels that detail background on characters that are actually interesting and well written? Comics that fill in the timelind gaps between the two games? Bioware has done such a good job with hyping up the Mass Effect series that they'd literally probably convince me to buy a Commander Shepard blow up doll and I can tell you right now that I'll be the line for Mass Effect 3 as well.

I am just thinking about how infuriating and FLAME-MAGNET some of this would be if it was all applied to an RM game.

I am p sure that is just because the traditional venue for RM advertisement is forums, on which updates cause other people's games to fall down (or off) the page and generally are just very WOAH LOOK AT ME. On RMN if you updated your game profile page with shit like that your subscribers could enjoy it and it would inconvenience/irritate no one.

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I'd like to point out that screenshots of the menu/save/load screen are really bad if you're using RM's default menu, all you're really doing is like... showing off facesets and the system graphix. Doesn't really characterize the game in terms of 'marketing'.

lol, that is why i wonder how the entire vx scene sustains itself. like, you click on some guy's topic and you see the exact same thing you would get if you opened the program yourself and clicked 'new project'. no wonder none of these people play each others games
Max McGee
with sorrow down past the fence
9159
I am p sure that is just because the traditional venue for RM advertisement is forums, on which updates cause other people's games to fall down (or off) the page and generally are just very WOAH LOOK AT ME. On RMN if you updated your game profile page with shit like that your subscribers could enjoy it and it would inconvenience/irritate no one.


Except that in terms of how bumps effect visibility, the Games tab on RMN works exactly the same as a proverbial G&D forum. But this isn't really the place to discuss that.
post=133294
At least games don't get bumped for editing their descriptions by a single letter anymore!
Both in the sense that it can't be abused and in the sense that I don't feel embarrassed when I fix a typo or something!
post=133015
post=132533
How about a pizza roll, Feld?

Cool trailers and screenshots and shit? Yeah, they got that, standard stuff. But how many developers go the extra mile by having shit like an in-universe Daily News (chronicling events that happens in the (large and expansive) Mass Effect universe) that's updated every day? Novels that detail background on characters that are actually interesting and well written? Comics that fill in the timelind gaps between the two games? Bioware has done such a good job with hyping up the Mass Effect series that they'd literally probably convince me to buy a Commander Shepard blow up doll and I can tell you right now that I'll be the line for Mass Effect 3 as well.


I am just thinking about how infuriating and FLAME-MAGNET some of this would be if it was all applied to an RM game.
I am p sure that is just because the traditional venue for RM advertisement is forums, on which updates cause other people's games to fall down (or off) the page and generally are just very WOAH LOOK AT ME. On RMN if you updated your game profile page with shit like that your subscribers could enjoy it and it would inconvenience/irritate no one.

post=132105
I'd like to point out that screenshots of the menu/save/load screen are really bad if you're using RM's default menu, all you're really doing is like... showing off facesets and the system graphix. Doesn't really characterize the game in terms of 'marketing'.


lol, that is why i wonder how the entire vx scene sustains itself. like, you click on some guy's topic and you see the exact same thing you would get if you opened the program yourself and clicked 'new project'. no wonder none of these people play each others games


I feel the same way. The graphics all look the exact same to me. It doesn't help that on most other forums all the VX games that get posted are by people who have never used an RM program before.
Hey guys remember 2001 when every RM2k game looked and played the same? lol
Still looked and played better than any of mine lol
But yeah. Good point.
Max McGee
with sorrow down past the fence
9159
I feel the same way. The graphics all look the exact same to me. It doesn't help that on most other forums all the VX games that get posted are by people who have never used an RM program before.

EVERY SINGLE VX GAME I HAVE MADE WOULD LIKE A WORD WITH YOU.

(The graphics might not look GOOD (your mileage may vary) but certainly Mage Duel is the only one that is LOLVXRTP (and even that is on purpose). And they certainly don't play the same as each other VX games or each other or in some cases, anything.)