THE SCREENSHOT TOPIC RETURNS

author=NOACCEPTANCE772
Can yo please elaborate about the wonky themes?
Because I think I will have to change them too.LOL!

author=alterego
Heh; both are right to an extent. Inclination just doesn't translate well in this kind of perspective and with 2D graphics, so part of how the map is 'read' depends of one's own "suspension of disbelief" or whatever. For example if I show you this: Link You may think this is a vertical wall. But if show you this: Link The illusion that the front wall is inclined as well becomes possible. -The brain completes it that way at plain sight- But notice how it would be almost indistinguishable from any other front wall! Also, you can't really tell if the ground is flat or if it is a slope, making up for the apparent inclination of the stairs: Link

It's all about the big picture, really. I doubt most people think about this long enough, though, that's why you rarely see any consistency. They just go with what they're comfortable seeing. -- But for the sake of aiding the illusion, I see no problem in extending the stairs one, two, or three tiles, depending on the case. More than that will probably start eating more space than its worth and it should be time to consider changing the stairs for a stairway... or maybe an elevator. =P

author=Liberty
The thing is that unless the steps are really shallow, the height of one step tile is consistent with the height of one normal tile, (and no, not a steep slope) so having more than the number of tiles that the cliff is doesn't work because, technically, the stairs would be a tile higher than the cliff.

author=LockeZ

author=NOACCEPTANCE772
Hehehehehe, some more from WHORE of BABYLON :D
(Don't ask why the system changed, there are multiple universes in the game and each has its own battle system.lol).

What do you guys think about the sprites?
Are they good or fucked up or just what's your opinion?LOL

Quoting this so the screenshots are on the new page.

This is a huge improvement over some of your older stuff. It looks like you figured out how to use colors in a more readable way. It actually looks really good and I'm pretty impressed.

The maps remind me of those side-scrolling beat-em-up games for the SNES and Sega Genesis. Are there going to be different side paths you can take or is it just going to be one straight path?

@Liberty: You can't possibly be this bad at spacial perception. A wall tile is 100% taken up by wall; it's 4 feet tall and takes up 0x0 feet of ground space. A ground tile is 100% taken up by ground; it's 0 feet tall and takes up 4x4 feet of ground space. A stairs tile is taken a row of wall, then a row of ground, then another row of wall, alternating. It's 50% wall and 50% ground. It's 2 feet tall and takes up 2x4 feet of ground space. Half as much ground as a ground tile and half as much wall as a wall tile.

author=alterego
@Mawk: What mystery? I thought that was a very simple and sensible explanation. =P ...Yes, I acknowledge the concept behind Pythagoras's theorem, that why I too was supporting extending the stairs. But I was also trying to point out that you can't faithfully/practically represent 3D in a 2D environment. (That's why you can't really approach this from a pure math perspective. Or in this case a "Look! I can do numbers and you can't!" perspective. ;D) 2D games often take many liberties to make up for this fact, so we should also acknowledge that there's always going to be some wiggle room for artistic license, or suspension of disbelief, or w/e.

@NoAcceptance: I agree with Dyhalto and LockeZ, I'm quite impressed with this improvement! So, tell me, was that fuss you made before about people telling you what was wrong with your screens worth the trouble? ;) ...Although, now I'd be worried that all those naked ladies and other shady subjects in your game may actually be against the site's TOS. =/