GO MAKE ME A SANDWICH: SEXUALITY IN BAYONETTA (AND OTHER GAMES)

author=Neophyte
Bayonetta is cool because it's an honest character, which removes the cringing.

Miranda from Mass Effect isn't cool because the developers tried to create emotional ties and situations while always having the camera pointing at a very specific spot. The situation ends up becoming awkward.

she was ugly anyway. 8/

she had a big ol badonka donk though

But damn it! We have to use jiggle physics for something don't we?

author=Feldschlacht IV

author=Neophyte
Bayonetta is cool because it's an honest character, which removes the cringing.

Miranda from Mass Effect isn't cool because the developers tried to create emotional ties and situations while always having the camera pointing at a very specific spot. The situation ends up becoming awkward.

she was ugly anyway. 8/

she had a big ol badonka donk though

That is my new favorite term.

Edit: besides Sazhaholic.

I could have sworn this was a necro'd topic bump (because the title of this thread seems very very familiar).

Also, my stance on the issue is one of apathy. (excepting that we need more beefcake jRPG heros that look like they could actually lift the sword they're carrying).

Once the "political correctness" ball starts rolling though it is very hard to stop.

We need Arnold to star in his own RPG

call it




hercules in new york

*edit*
If we're going Miranda talk it was the most unsettling thing in all of ME2

Do you agree with GMMAS? Should we, as game developers, take note of gender and sexuality?

We should, only insofar as how it affects the game we're trying to make and the audience we are marketing it to.

For example, Bayonetta was marketed to have an over-sexualized female lead. Kamiya's a sleaze ball, or his humor is completely lost in translation, but he understands that with idolizing the female that is confident in her sexuality, she must be given the power and respect to back it up. I haven't played the game, but it sounds like the main rivals are also female. I would care much more if she didn't have anything but complete dominance over any male character in the game. I still agree that the creator's intent should be factored into whether or not you decide she's empowering to women.

That being said, I think games with more serious stories and subject matter should exercise more care when introducing females that might be perceived as over-sexualized, and that's because in games, those characters are never developed enough to look into the aspects of their past that determines their insecurities or basis for sexual independence. It's almost never relevant in games. I can't think of one single game where a female's sexuality is addressed in any meaningful way whatsoever. In fact, I don't recall one single game where a woman's over-exposed figure or endowments are ever even MENTIONED by characters who are written to be completely blind to it, aside from one-off jokes (which the women are usually mad about/offended by) or the inevitable conversation between two female anime characters in hot springs where the smaller, mousier girl expresses her jealousy of the older bombshell's breast size.

It kinda makes a difference in how I'm willing to accept content. DoA is absurd, I'll never play it, thought it never attempts to hide what it's all about. Star Ocean 4 is a complete JOKE. Even FF7 isn't immune; the majority of the game is just fine, but very short sequences where Tifa demonstrates twisted laws of physics is totally laughable.

In short, I'm not bothered with it; very often men are objectified in similar ways, but the social standard is that men don't care whatsoever about being perceived as tools for female desires. But I won't take a game seriously that sexualizes its females just because it seems like they should.

There was a vlog by the Game Overthinker about her and how she's a real woman and not an anime bimbo with the face of a girl and the body of a woman.

She actually reminds me of my friend who used to be a pro dominatrix to pay for school. Now she's a doctor of TCM. She even looks similar and will wear bodysuits under her scrubs.

She'll also go oneline and pick fights with other dominatrixes for being lazy and not having real jobs.

Oh and while we're on the subject could get some male characters that aren't scrawny wapanese girlymen with deep seated emotional problems or over-roided Duke Nukem rejects who sleep with a BFG under their pillow and can't stop bragging about that time he skullfucked Cthulhu before breakfast?

I'm just saying a little moderation would be nice now and then.

author=benos
What about that guy who dresses as a nun?

Ugh, Bridget.