DO YOU HAVE REAL FRIENDS?
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I made my real friends by accident, actually.
I had a lot of friends coming out of high school and into adult life. Lots, actually. All sorts. Drinking buddies, gamer friends, people that loved to go out and about, etc. I realized that they weren't real friends around the time I got a fiancee. Suddenly, because my time was split between her engagements (her friends, family, etc.) my job, and them.. they weren't willing to make that extra effort to plan in advance so we could spend time together.
You know when you're younger, most things you do are spontaneous! You get a call during work on a Friday afternoon to set up a poker game that night. Your friends swing by to play some Warhammer. Whatever. Suddenly, you are part of two lives. If you leave everything up to the last minute, nothing will get done. You need to plan, as early in advance as possible, and make arrangements. My old friends hadn't quite realized this yet, and even after explaining to them why I was never available it was "Oh, I see. Your fiancee is more important than us. Got it. Call us when you have some free time so we can blow you off and see how you like it!" and I feel like the bad guy.
Isn't the number one rule of being friends; real friends that is, not to make your friends feel like shit? I know now that I was only being reasonable and perhaps could have been more proactive in making plans myself (I did try to set up a Games night, and even made the effort to run a D&D Campaign for my friends which had a planned day every other week but it always collapsed!) I'd like to think that I did my best in that situation.
As a result, I barely see these people anymore. The only reason I know they exist is Facebook updates and the occasional invite to pwn some noobs at Heroes of Newerth/Team Fortress 2. Something that requires no effort to plan at all (thus showing no real care, just 'oh Steve is on Steam we need another lets invite him and see if he is around.')
Now, I had mentioned that I did actually have some real friends. I came across them totally by fluke, I suppose. My fiancee and I have very similar interests, especially regarding entertainment and philosophy. We are both no-bullshit people, and don't take crap from anyone. We're also both gamers, and interested in doing new and unique things that we haven't experienced before (as far as her health allows her, but that is another story.)
Now, these real friends of mine are people she has been friends with for some time. She met them through a friend at College and they are for the most part very tight. I am not a social butterfly by any means (although I am getting much better at that as I mature,) but my fiancee had lots of plans with these friends before her and I had ever met so I was taken a long for the ride. While I was trying to woo her, show her who I am as a person and essentially bear (bare?) my soul to her; I realized that I was doing this in front of people I didn't really know. I was engaged in situations with them (a pair of brothers own a cottage that we frequent regularly, and a large group of them are Magic the Gathering players which is something that my fiancee and I are very big on.) So while I am doing my thing with my fiancee these strangers are getting an open view into exactly who I am as a person. I am being myself, wholly and truly. Something that very few people I knew in the past had ever seen of me. Hell, I don't think my parents or siblings even truly know who I am.
Now I am not only building a relationship and bond with my then girlfriend, I am inadvertently creating a bond and friendship with these people at the same level. They are practically significant others at this point. After experiencing this and realizing it, I also realized that they were doing the same for me. Opening up in a way I had never seen two people open up to one another before. I quickly learned a lot about them and what built them up to who they were that day.
I take this and build all my relationships in a similar way. I also learned quickly that some people are not expecting it. It can create huge chasms of awkwardness between people so it is very important to evaluate each person and try to gauge how they will take it. When learning something about someone, for example what they like, I try to learn why they like it. What lead them to like it. What significance it holds.
I am rambling at this point and lost my train of thought. I don't think I ever put this kind of stuff into words before and had a lot of trouble getting it out. Kind of a weird thing to talk about I guess.
I had a lot of friends coming out of high school and into adult life. Lots, actually. All sorts. Drinking buddies, gamer friends, people that loved to go out and about, etc. I realized that they weren't real friends around the time I got a fiancee. Suddenly, because my time was split between her engagements (her friends, family, etc.) my job, and them.. they weren't willing to make that extra effort to plan in advance so we could spend time together.
You know when you're younger, most things you do are spontaneous! You get a call during work on a Friday afternoon to set up a poker game that night. Your friends swing by to play some Warhammer. Whatever. Suddenly, you are part of two lives. If you leave everything up to the last minute, nothing will get done. You need to plan, as early in advance as possible, and make arrangements. My old friends hadn't quite realized this yet, and even after explaining to them why I was never available it was "Oh, I see. Your fiancee is more important than us. Got it. Call us when you have some free time so we can blow you off and see how you like it!" and I feel like the bad guy.
Isn't the number one rule of being friends; real friends that is, not to make your friends feel like shit? I know now that I was only being reasonable and perhaps could have been more proactive in making plans myself (I did try to set up a Games night, and even made the effort to run a D&D Campaign for my friends which had a planned day every other week but it always collapsed!) I'd like to think that I did my best in that situation.
As a result, I barely see these people anymore. The only reason I know they exist is Facebook updates and the occasional invite to pwn some noobs at Heroes of Newerth/Team Fortress 2. Something that requires no effort to plan at all (thus showing no real care, just 'oh Steve is on Steam we need another lets invite him and see if he is around.')
Now, I had mentioned that I did actually have some real friends. I came across them totally by fluke, I suppose. My fiancee and I have very similar interests, especially regarding entertainment and philosophy. We are both no-bullshit people, and don't take crap from anyone. We're also both gamers, and interested in doing new and unique things that we haven't experienced before (as far as her health allows her, but that is another story.)
Now, these real friends of mine are people she has been friends with for some time. She met them through a friend at College and they are for the most part very tight. I am not a social butterfly by any means (although I am getting much better at that as I mature,) but my fiancee had lots of plans with these friends before her and I had ever met so I was taken a long for the ride. While I was trying to woo her, show her who I am as a person and essentially bear (bare?) my soul to her; I realized that I was doing this in front of people I didn't really know. I was engaged in situations with them (a pair of brothers own a cottage that we frequent regularly, and a large group of them are Magic the Gathering players which is something that my fiancee and I are very big on.) So while I am doing my thing with my fiancee these strangers are getting an open view into exactly who I am as a person. I am being myself, wholly and truly. Something that very few people I knew in the past had ever seen of me. Hell, I don't think my parents or siblings even truly know who I am.
Now I am not only building a relationship and bond with my then girlfriend, I am inadvertently creating a bond and friendship with these people at the same level. They are practically significant others at this point. After experiencing this and realizing it, I also realized that they were doing the same for me. Opening up in a way I had never seen two people open up to one another before. I quickly learned a lot about them and what built them up to who they were that day.
I take this and build all my relationships in a similar way. I also learned quickly that some people are not expecting it. It can create huge chasms of awkwardness between people so it is very important to evaluate each person and try to gauge how they will take it. When learning something about someone, for example what they like, I try to learn why they like it. What lead them to like it. What significance it holds.
I am rambling at this point and lost my train of thought. I don't think I ever put this kind of stuff into words before and had a lot of trouble getting it out. Kind of a weird thing to talk about I guess.
Of course I have friends! I have a life you know! Luckily my job does not involve too much, so I have plenty of time to be on RMN on my laptop, on all of those half a dozen SN sites I have accounts on.
Of course I just don't plainly hate people, I make friends with all of my neighbors, so I don't look like some totally random person, but usually everyone knows eachother quite well in this small@$$ excuse for a town. (It's technically called a "Village")
I have a lot of friends up town, and a LOT more in Mishawaka. Though, I wish my fav place to go wasn't closed down, now my B-day is ruined! FUDGE YOU RYAN's!
I value older friends more, and the newer one's have to prove they are acceptable for me to care about them. As for neighbors I do it for peacekeeping reasons.
Of course I just don't plainly hate people, I make friends with all of my neighbors, so I don't look like some totally random person, but usually everyone knows eachother quite well in this small@$$ excuse for a town. (It's technically called a "Village")
I have a lot of friends up town, and a LOT more in Mishawaka. Though, I wish my fav place to go wasn't closed down, now my B-day is ruined! FUDGE YOU RYAN's!
I value older friends more, and the newer one's have to prove they are acceptable for me to care about them. As for neighbors I do it for peacekeeping reasons.
i'd probably have more of a social life if i didn't hate facebook and avoid it like the plague.
i always feel like i should avoid facebook because i am too old for it, which is kind of ridiculous since everyone's parents and grandparents are on it. but for me it has never really felt like 'my generation'...which again, is weird.
i always feel like i should avoid facebook because i am too old for it, which is kind of ridiculous since everyone's parents and grandparents are on it. but for me it has never really felt like 'my generation'...which again, is weird.
author=Max McGee
i'd probably have more of a social life if i didn't hate facebook and avoid it like the plague.
i always feel like i should avoid facebook because i am too old for it, which is kind of ridiculous since everyone's parents and grandparents are on it. but for me it has never really felt like 'my generation'...which again, is weird.
screw facebook.
(MaxMcGee)You are paying professionals to pretend to care about you and talk to you about your problems. Therefore, aren't people who ACTUALLY care about you and WON'T charge you money VASTLY superior?/
That to me is basic common sense, I totally agree.
(MaxMcGee)Friends > Psychologists
I certainly believe in psychiatry, however. Psychiatric medication is fucking awesome. I sure wish I was on some anti-anxiety meds for my crippling general anxiety disorder. The catch 22, of course, is that I'm much too scared of going to see a psychiatrist to get them./
When you've taken some of those wonderful pills, tell me how you feel.....!!
As for facebook, the little i've seen of it seemed terribly superficial.
That to me is basic common sense, I totally agree.
(MaxMcGee)Friends > Psychologists
I certainly believe in psychiatry, however. Psychiatric medication is fucking awesome. I sure wish I was on some anti-anxiety meds for my crippling general anxiety disorder. The catch 22, of course, is that I'm much too scared of going to see a psychiatrist to get them./
When you've taken some of those wonderful pills, tell me how you feel.....!!
As for facebook, the little i've seen of it seemed terribly superficial.
author=Creation
If making a mistake when reasoning about something means being retarded, then yes, I probably am. I often make mistakes when reasoning about something, then I change the way I think. I thought that was a natural learning process (learning from your mistakes and all that). Whatever happened to the author of the ''Why are we behaving like dicks'' thread I wonder :). I guess you just found out the answer to your own question.
Hey, I thought it was funny. I don't really think you're retarded. No bad feelings meant!
I do think it'd be good for us as a community if our response to something we disagree with wasn't "You're retarded." 90% of the time.
But that probably won't happen because let's not kid ourselves this is the internet.
But that probably won't happen because let's not kid ourselves this is the internet.
author=Max McGee
But that probably won't happen because let's not kid ourselves this is the internet.
This a million times.
No, I am a recluse with no friends. My only friend is rtp Alex and I spank it to 16x32 images of RTP female mage.
author=NewBlackWTF. WTF WTF WTF.
No, I am a recluse with no friends. My only friend is rtp Alex and I spank it to 16x32 images of RTP female mage.
(What's up with people these days!)
lol
Way back in high school, my mother taught me an important lesson one day, back when I was upset and damn near teary eyed when I found out that someone that I thought was a good friend actually didn't like me at all and constantly said the worst things about me behind my back(Yes, boys can be just as nasty and catty as females when they are jealous of someone, lol).
Anyway, what she taught me was that at any given time, you can always count your REAL friends on one hand. No more than that. After that, I stopped counting all of those extra addons and acquaintances and learned what true friends are.
Today, I have 4 real friends(one died a few years ago). These are people that if I was stranded on the highway ould call in the middle of the night who would jump out of bed to pick me up. People that know me so well inside and out that it doesn't matter if other people don't understand me.
I had more to say on this subject but I ate a space pancake an hour ago and it's starting to hit so it's best that I leave it here.
Anyway, what she taught me was that at any given time, you can always count your REAL friends on one hand. No more than that. After that, I stopped counting all of those extra addons and acquaintances and learned what true friends are.
Today, I have 4 real friends(one died a few years ago). These are people that if I was stranded on the highway ould call in the middle of the night who would jump out of bed to pick me up. People that know me so well inside and out that it doesn't matter if other people don't understand me.
I had more to say on this subject but I ate a space pancake an hour ago and it's starting to hit so it's best that I leave it here.
Ahh Scrubs.. Good times. As for the original question, yeah I do. I'm actually quite thankful for that as well, too know genuinely good people.
I don't really have any. Most of them are just gaming buddies or "friends" that want something from me because of my rep in school. All the time it's me doing these crazy stuff like picking them up in the middle of the night if they get stranded, lots of help with emotional problems etc. But for some reason they told me (at least they were honest enough) that despite all of this, they don't see me as a BEST FRIEND but most likely as a big sister and being a big sister sucks since I can't depend on anyone.
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Weirdly, I've never seemed to have friends that have betrayed my trust, and most of them are really friendly and love hanging out (when I can be bothered), though I have realised that some of them often rely on me for help with things like when they're feeling down and need a cheer up.
Lately though I've been hanging around with groups of 10 nearly every day since I need to be more 'sociable'...
Lately though I've been hanging around with groups of 10 nearly every day since I need to be more 'sociable'...
I have lots of friends, both men and women, younger and older, but only few that are really close. I love my friends. And I love my internet friends too, I stay a lot of time online, they're no less important to me than my offline friends.
If anyone is mad/sad about not having friends, just do something about it. "I'm not in high school anymore" is a terrible excuse.
Regarding the Psychology discussion... just shut up everyone. You're making fools out of yourselves. Having an elaborate intellectualized opinion over something you know nothing about is very uncool.
If anyone is mad/sad about not having friends, just do something about it. "I'm not in high school anymore" is a terrible excuse.
Regarding the Psychology discussion... just shut up everyone. You're making fools out of yourselves. Having an elaborate intellectualized opinion over something you know nothing about is very uncool.
author=TauAhh yeah.. good times.
Ahh Scrubs.. Good times.
... o yes, the topic. Well I have friends, not mister popularity but the ones I have are pretty nice ones, male and females friends. I considerate me like a little weird and strange so I feel funny that my friends are not, don't know how the hell did I end with them when all have pretty different personalities.
author=calunio
I have lots of friends, both men and women, younger and older, but only few that are really close. I love my friends. And I love my internet friends too, I stay a lot of time online, they're no less important to me than my offline friends.
If anyone is mad/sad about not having friends, just do something about it. "I'm not in high school anymore" is a terrible excuse.
Regarding the Psychology discussion... just shut up everyone. You're making fools out of yourselves. Having an elaborate intellectualized opinion over something you know nothing about is very uncool.
I find the bolded segment both surprisingly arrogant and also highly specious. Why aren't we qualified to discuss this? (There was a much ruder version of this post that I refrained from making.)