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You do shit and then you die.

  • Craze
  • 11/23/2011 03:10 PM
  • 23574 views
I played this game just now, and read the RPS review (well, I read part of it, then played the game when it told me to, and then finished reading it).

I mean, this is the kind of game that I find pointless and meaningless. That's why I never bothered playing it before the RPS article told me to, because I always walk away from these types of games going "that was a waste of my time."

Anything with pizzicato music, lo-fi graphics and abstract messages about death is, like, a 0/5 in my book. It's been done to undeath on Newgrounds, and it's not art because it's boring and it's trash. The fact that Upgrade Complete 2 had an "indie" mode that turned it into a black and white game with stereotypical "eerie" music and phrases flashing onto the screen going WHERE AM I, WHY AM I HERE, IS THIS HEAVEN OR HELL, etc. made me laugh the fuck out loud.

Wither didn't change my mind about this "indie" genre, because it's not part of that genre. Don't get me wrong, I didn't like it! I thought it was pointless, and not very entertaining. I finished it because I wanted to know what all the hype was about. It's not a part of that "indie" genre (how derogatory toward the wide-spread realm of actual indie games) because I could get that it was meant to be a game and not ~art~. You do shit. Nice.

Why 3/5, then? If this was only barely above a 0/5, how did three stars appear? Do twelve flowers equate to three stars? A 4:1 ratio? No, fool; it's that because Wither is a game and not an attempt at ~art~, I can respect it without liking it. It's called being grown-up!

Reasons for the stars:

1) Consistency. The game is in all caps. The game's graphics all work together perfectly, and you can always tell what they are. The music fit, even if I thought it was stupid (but nothing else would have worked, but since I didn't actually like anything else, there's no way to win here; so, take your star and go crawl into a grave with it).

2) Resolution. It was dumb in and of itself (and it was really in there), but honestly? You got your twelve flowers that visually appeared as twelve flowers on your menu screen (why didn't the coins show up?), which gives the game a sense of progression. When you finally leave the game, you've definitely completed it. Kudos for that.

3) The car. You have a car. Did it run into a tree? I think it ran into a tree. When you approach it, it crumbles. This was simple, probably done before, but still brilliant. I'd rate it 3 Joss Whedons out of 2.

Still, I didn't like it, and I don't think it's a fun or worthwhile experience. But hey, it's not the same shit as the actually bad shit, it's just not my cup of spiced black tea.

Wither is a game where you do shit and then you die.

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You have every right not to like it, but if your argument is "it's been done to undeath", you better start rethinking your approach.
Craze
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calunio
You have every right not to like it, but if your argument is "it's been done to undeath", you better start rethinking your approach.

Did you read the review beyond the first three paragraphs?
Yes, the rest of your argument was "I don't like it".
Craze
why would i heal when i could equip a morningstar
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Wither didn't change my mind about this "indie" genre, because it's not part of that genre.


It defied expectations, and although I still didn't like it overall, I talked about the parts that I did like and how because it wasn't something done to death I was able to appreciate those aspects.

You are vilifying me for not liking a game that I give 3/5 stars and compliment?
No, I'm villifying you for taking an unnecessarily negative attitude here. Just check the title of your review. Whether it's art, or indie, or gamey is really not the point. People who played and liked this game were intrigued, fascinated, they felt stuff, and they enjoyed trying to interpret the game. When you throw that away and say that the game's merit is "flowers look like flowers", you're really not taking it serious at all.
Craze
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I thought the title was cute and amusing but apparently I am stepping on some serious business, here!
author=Craze
I thought the title was cute and amusing but apparently I am stepping on some serious business, here!


Well I thought it was cute.
author=Rastek
author=Craze
I thought the title was cute and amusing but apparently I am stepping on some serious business, here!
Well I thought it was cute.


I...will be honest and thought it was too. I lol'd.

Craze
why would i heal when i could equip a morningstar
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For the record, when I awarded Joss Whedons to the car crumpling, I thought of this scene in season seven of Buffy the Vampire Slayer in particular:



Not the best singing, and the video is flipped, but the smash cut is just so perfect.
? I don't really whatch Buffy. What exactly happens in that video?
Craze
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A main character - the singing woman - is stabbed to almost-death, which is the smash cut at the end of the video. All throughout the episode, you've been getting glimpses of Anya's past, and this clip is set during the musical episode. It's all happy and exciting, with Anya in her white wedding dre - ANYA BLEEDING WITH SWORD THROUGH CHEST

That "oh holy shit" sudden change of graphic had a lesser but still meaningful impact when the car crumpled in your game.
Craze
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mellytan
have fun with skyrim

Sorry that you can't abide anybody disliking ~art~. I just wanna play and have opinions on some games.

:<
My biggest problem is when you say "it's been done to death". Newsflash! Everything has been done to death. But when a person likes the genre you can never get enough. Just like how you can keep playing those Elder Scroll games. "OMG A prophecy about world destruction with a side of dragons? That's been done to death!" I can't imagine that Skyrim is insanely innovative from every other ES game but you eat it up like...*ahem*

"its boring and its trash"

No, you.
Max McGee
with sorrow down past the fence
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This review was so utterly, intensely vitriolic and bizarre. I don't even know how to react to it.

can't imagine that Skyrim is insanely innovative from every other ES game but you eat it up like...*ahem*

Please don't bring Skyrim into this. For one it IS insanely innovative from every other Elder Scrolls game.
Request denied. I'm sure it's bigger but at it's core its the same old song and dance. The point is that Craze is using such phrases to pass his opinion along as some kind of fact about a genre he doesn't like. He talks about how he determined, with his infinite wisdom, what genre this really is and its not what we all suggest it is. I can admit that I don't like the type of game that Skyrim is, but I wouldn't write a review and say "it's trash". It takes a special kind of person to do that. He talks about respect but I don't see any.
Sailerius
did someone say angels
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This is a pretty fair review. You can nitpick at it all you like, but his points are solid and well-justified.
Craze
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Link_2112
My biggest problem is when you say "it's been done to death".

My biggest problem with you is that you didn't read the italicized part that clearly says that Wither doesn't fit that description

It's like almost everybody saw that it's not 4/5 stars and just skimmed the review for reasons to attack me

great community, guys.
Well, I really don't mind your scoring. It's actually high considering what you said. If you want to play the "my opinion is different than everybody else's" game and use strong phrases like "this game is pointless and meaningless", you shouldn't be so surprised that people disagree with you.
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