HAPPY'S PROFILE

author=SorceressKyrsty
I won't be surprised if I wake up dead tomorrow

You should be glad we aren't playing dracula mafia.

Alright, I promised earlier to elaborate my lynch on Dudesoft:

As soon as Dudesoft jumped on day 2's bandwagon I became suspicious of him. Why?

Because there have been two major bandwagons.

1:

author=Jeroen_Sol
Zeuzio: 6 - Adon237, CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK, Gourd_Clae, Zeuzio, PlatinumAshes, Yellow Magic, Dudesoft, CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK, Yellow Magic, PlatinumAshes

2:

author=Jeroen_Sol
CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK: 4- MirrorMasq, Yellow Magic, Dudesoft, Adon237, wildwes, MirrorMasq, Dudesoft, SorceressKyrsty

and I find it very unlikely that we would have two major bandwagons with no werewolves in them. Think what you will, but I feel that our town can't be as bad as lynching innocents without werewolves. And yes, at this point I feel positive about Cavedog being innocent, a town player.

Why is Cavedog a town player?

1. I was suspicious of Cavedog until day 2 because of his failed arguments. On the beginning of day 2 we suddenly have a huge lynch mob on him, however. 4 people ready to lynch a person who was much responsible of a town player being lynched on day 1?
Smells like werewolf opportunism, or then we have really dumb town. Both are still possibilities, however. But as I stated before, I find it extremely unlikely that a werewolf would put themselves on such a visible role on day 1 lynch.

2. Cavedog's actions alone don't make him seem innocent, but when you compare them to lynch lists, it starts to show Cavedog in more positive light. Why?

Because if we assume that one from day 1 bandwagon's is a werewolf, we have:
Adon, Dudesoft, Cavedog, YM and PA

Now if Adon is the witch, it leaves us Dudesoft, YM, Cavedog and PA who could all still be werewolves. But now if we compare this to day 2's bandwagon, and if we want to assume that one of the 4 people wanting to lynch Cavedog on day 2 is a werewolf, double bandwagoners we have left are Dudesoft and YM.

Of course there's a chance we have werewolves who haven't bandwagoned or some that have been part only of one of the bandwagons, but people who've been part of both bandwagons? (Bandwagon's that aren't based on much information, may I add.)

Now if we look at the disucssion so far, we can see Cavedog has been pushing both of the double voters. (People who've been in both bandwagons, that is.) Whether we'll lynch YM or Dudesoft, if they turn up town, I can then happily say that my assumptions about the bandwagons were wrong and we can be quite sure Cavedog is a werewolf.

But why choose Dudesoft over YM? For reasons why Dudesoft could be a werewolf see Cavedog's massive post from earlier.

Why YM isn't? From reading his day 2 posts I find that there's logic behind his actions, even if it's failed. By reading his posts you can find out that he has actually _thought_ about finding werewolves. You can find the feeling of speculation having gone through his brain.

In Dudesoft's case it seems he's a werewolf or just a townie being too lazy to actually argue his opinions to us. By lynching him we'd still confirm Cave's identity though, which gives us more trust in the double vote. We can then focus on finding the other wolves.

(Starting to hunt Kyrsty on last hours all of sudden seems extremely dumb, btw.)

ps. Liberty stop being suspicious me because I didn't want to die on night 1.

Hi!

Are you making big bucks with rpg maekr?

author=SorceressKyrsty
PlatinumAshes is playing scum. Enough loose arguments and small comments while lurking quite heavily. It's the same kind of scum I am playing.

Also,

There has been shit ton of text and I'm struggling to find the time to consume the most of it. I've been re-reading some of the stuff from the end of the day 1 again while trying to choose between Cavedog and Dudesoft.

I am not going to start quoting posts because I'm at work and I won't have time for long sessions, or entirely dedicated to myself until next Monday. (Unless I get a chance to access pc when we're visiting my relatives on weekend.) However, I think there has to be at least one werewolf in Zeuzio bandwagon and first I was thinking of jumping the bandwagon on the beginning of day 2 to get some werewolves join, and considering it grew as fast as it did I find it unlikely Cavedog himself is one of them.

I started questioning Cave's authority at some point as he was contradicting himself and making some shallow points. Some of these being logical thought patterns presented, but you can make almost anything seem logical or illogical, regardless from the perspective. You just need to be able to convince people with good arguments.

There are more than few players here who're lynching without proper documentation. However, the fact is that they're playing bad, but their alignemnt can still be anything regardless of that. You can only perceive the alignment by comparing the actions presented each day and if people are contradicting themselves.

There's also some silly arguments that "person X wouldn't do this because it'd make him seem scum", but werewolves could always abuse these easily by actually doing whatever they want despite of it making them seem guilty, because hey, "that would be very un-werewolflike thing to do."

(For this reason most of Liberty's arguments seem entirely useless to me.)

Also, Cavedog said to Adon that if Adon was suspected, as a town player Adon should lay all his cards on the table. Now, was Cavedog doing this earlier? Perhaps not, but I'm glad to see some actual effort from him now.

I'm still holding my lynch vote on Dudesoft. I will post my arguments as soon as I find more time, which hopefully is soon. I meant to originally do so in this post, but this becaume suprisingly general very fast.

suggested feature: removing Sailerius' horrible and nerve wrecking animu avatar.