ISRIERI'S PROFILE

author=Liberty
But hey, here's a question you should be asking - how was mafia supposed to know who was who and plan together when they were all using code names in the mafia chat - or so our now-dead double-agent told us.

It depends on who it is. If you really look at the way a person posts, we all have tells. You could probably make a safe guess.

Also:

author=LockeZ
I propose this method:

I'll list four possible people I think would be good targets to lynch. Each of you then tell me which of those four you think I should pick. Tell me it's a "weak preference" if it's just your opinion of which one would be the best target. Tell me it's a "strong preference" if you are one of the other three people. Based on your preferences I'll pick who to kill tonight.

If both of you have a strong preference, and you prefer two different people, I'll pick someone else to kill who wasn't in my list of four people (to ensure I'm not killing scum).

Tomorrow we'll do the same thing except Mr. Green will choose the list, and on day three Mr. Black will choose the list.

Sound like a plan? It's a little convoluted, but it ensures our safety as well as I think is reasonably possible.

Clearly you aren't giving her enough credit, Tunger.

Also oddRabbit is NOT a good lynch. That's some LockeZ thinking: Killing him just for not being useful. I don't know how useful he may turn out to be yet, but if I think he's town, I'm not going to kill the guy. I totally understand how you feel because I wanted him SO dead, last game. But after experiencing that, I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt this time around. We have information now and we have to use that information to make informed lynches.

Let me lay this out very plainly:

As far as I'm concerned, town has only two three choices of who to lynch today: Me, or Liberty (or Tunger).

I agree that psy, Kloe, Ratty, and Yellow Magic are town. Gourd is absolutely not mafia. You, Tunger, I was completely ambivalent toward. But you apparently have doubts on Gourd and want to kill oddRabbit. That's just nasty crazy talk. With NeverSilent I agree that he was the one who spearheaded the bandwagon on Ratty and after it died he went pretty quiet, but I have no idea whether that's an agent or a mafia tactic right there. You gotta remember that agents are a thing. Scum vibes may come from both.

I am pretty suspicious right now, I admit. My votes have been all over the place, and I didn't vote for LockeZ along with everyone else (that was because I was super tired that day and went to bed early, but that's no excuse in mafia).

But when I said I was not an agent, that wasn't a lie. I'm a safe kill for town, and if you kill me today that should eliminate some doubt. It will mean that scum has a greater chance of nailing one of our agents, but since we have two left (if I understand correctly, each team started with three and Tangled was a member of both) we afford to take a risk. The chip's in our pile!

But guys Liberty is totally mafia I'm super serious. She and LockeZ were playing it on the downlow earlier and mostly remained silent when the Ratty bandwagon was starting to form up And she was super not thrilled with voting for LockeZ. That doesn't seem very professional agent behavior. I can't pin it precisely, but the way she posted during the debacle (for lack of a better word) rubbed me the wrong way. It just seemed like she was trying to conflate the issue. I mean I sure was thrown for a loop (YM was too, it seems). Everyone was trying to make sense of what was going on but it felt like she wanted to take advantage of everyone's uncertainty.

It may be possible that agents or someone else can use an ability so I think if that's the case, best course of action is to either Lynch Liberty and kill me, or vice versa.

The TRULY best case scenario would be to kill Tunger & Liberty because I'm fucking town.

author=Yellow Magic
I'm going to bed now but before I do, I might as well leave this here for everyone else to ponder:

author=Isrieri
I'll hammer us right now if you can tell me, TangledLion, who you think the other colors are. I think I might already know one of them.

What did Isrieri mean by this?

First off, I wasn't gonna actually hammer Ratty. It was hyberbole. Since I forgot to cancel TangledLion and my Ratty vote didn't count, I just left it on Tangled all day.

It was LockeZ who I thought was the other scum:

author=Isrieri
We learned that Ratty & TangledLion are probably in cahoots. And I think that maybe Liberty & LockeZ might also be, based on the smallest of gut hunches. Whose side they are on, I couldn't say for sure.

Tangled's reveal was right out of left field and I couldn't make heads or tails whether Ratty was mafia (I thought he and TangledLion were, at first), an agent, or if Tangled was doubling back on himself. So I didn't want to make a move. The prospect of lynching potential agents was too scary.

LockeZ made that post trying to make Ratty look suspicious, and I called it a stretch. Cuz it was super scummy. And he totally knew that I knew it.

author=TungerManU
Joyless's death brings up a lot of questions. She can't have been modkilled, seeing as her alignment has been revealed. However, there doesn't seem to be any reason for scum to target her. Theories?

Since such a thing as a double-agent exists, there's probably other traps and night actions we don't know about. Joyless might have befallen a wayward bullet or something. I can't say for sure, but that's my best guess.

author=Gourd_Clae
At this point we learned that they're both probably agents or mafia. I agree we'll learn something by lynching them but it'll be much much safer to pick another target. Let scum give us the info.

Right. I hadn't considered that until you said it. The thread is moving really fast.

I'm serious about drawing straws though, at this point I think picking anybody is a bit of a crapshoot.

I would laugh my ass off if we all killed TangledLion but left Ratty alive. XD

This isn't a debate anymore, though. TangledLion will probably (probably) get nightkilled because if scum doesn't that's pretty stupid. We should kill Ratty today.

If either of them turns up town then maybe we'll learn something.