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Religion and the After-Life
Religion and the After-Life
author=ubermax
This I rather agree with. I wouldn't want a god that forces me to choose between them and eternal damnation. But maybe it's not as simple as that. Maybe it's not the god that sends you to whatever form of damnation you believe in. Maybe it's you.
Assuming there is an actual hell with fire and brimstone(most people I know believe it and I did as well when i was a christian) I would completely disagree with you that there is any free will involved. The choice would then not be up to you because you would be forced to believe or otherwise face the consequences. That situation would be no different than being mugged. Clearly you wouldn't call giving all your stuff away an action of free will.
If you believe there is no actual hell but instead it means you will just be away from god then the concept of it and all supposed moral laws become irrelevant. If you get eternal life no matter what you do it makes religion pointless since your idea of hell would be my idea of heaven. Also I guess I am away from god now anyway so can I say I am in hell?
Also I find it hilarious how often you guys keep bringing up belief as though it was a matter of choice. It is 100% irrelevant what you want god to be like or if you even like him or not. Can I choose to believe the sky is green? No. Everything is what it is and there is no choice involved. I think some of you subconsciously understand or at least associate your beliefs with being a matter of choice which I find hilarious.
Religion and the After-Life
Well I guess I was referring to Christian beliefs. I ruled it out as a possibility because no one I know believes that and it makes no sense. If you expect to be conscious of your being when you die and go to heaven it should make sense that you will also be aware of it before you are born. But in the end if you are Christian you can't deny that god created you at some point, whether it was at birth or not is irrelevant.
Religion and the After-Life
Religion and the After-Life
Experience involves statistics and chance but faith is purely emotional. All you're doing is playing word games. I don't agree with your definitions.
Religion and the After-Life
That is not what I call faith, that is experience. I can't know for certain that my chair won't break if I sit down but I don't need to because from experience I can tell that chairs have a very low chance of breaking. You can't use the two interchangeably as faith doesn't have that element.
Also while your argument about the absence of evidence may be true it is no where near a good reason to believe something since by that logic I would have to believe in everything I can't disprove such as unicorns, leprechauns etc.
Also while your argument about the absence of evidence may be true it is no where near a good reason to believe something since by that logic I would have to believe in everything I can't disprove such as unicorns, leprechauns etc.
Religion and the After-Life
Fine let's remove the 'in spite of evidence' part just to simplify the argument. Any reliance on faith at all is bad.
Religion and the After-Life
@FG: Generally when you want to convince people you want try to be as nice and forgiving as possible. To me it just looks like you just want to vent your frustration and I'm sure that's what geodude is getting at. Prejudice may not be the right word but I feel it's pointless to just argue semantics. This is not what this thread is about.
Religion and the After-Life
author=Emanzi
Don't you think it would be really disappointing, meaningless and shallow if life is just some spontaneous mistake? Science has already proven that almost everything has a purpose, a reason why. Its just that we don't know yet.
From my experience this is only ever a problem for theists. I believe religion actually causes this problem and conveniently tries to solve it thus creating a dependency and a fear of losing it. Sure some people get really depressed when they learn the truth but that is pretty much what you would expect when people lose their addiction but eventually they get better and there are actual places you can go to get help for that. I would also like to point out the kids that grow up with atheist parents and live normal lives without ever worrying about this. This is actually kind of funny but in a way this totally relates to the Whats the Point thread in general which pretty much asks the same question. There doesn't need to be a higher purpose because people would still choose to live with out it and there is plenty of proof for this.
Religion and the After-Life
Really there can be no discussion when the core understanding of what real knowledge is can't be agreed upon. Religion teaches to believe through your feelings in spite of evidence and claims it is a virtue. The problem is that what you feel is extremely fallible as is shown by the wide variety of beliefs that man has created through the ages. The fact is mankind loves to create religion and each and every one of them ignorantly professes to know the truth in spite of what others say. It's a scam that is so painfully obvious from this end that it's incredibly frustrating to think that there are still so many people who believe.
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