UNDER WORLD 3

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Hello everyone :)

I'm Krolan and I play RPG-Maker games. In my relatively short time on here I already played quite a selection of games, some of which were good, some of which were not so good. But some games really struck me when I saw the lack of replys and plays on them after playing and enjoying them.

Under World 3 is one such game.

I played the first one when it popped up in my search and loved the gameplay style of it, with it surprisingly intuitive direct-combat. So I continued through the Series and also played this game.

Under World 3 shows the final evolution of a well-crafted skill and equipment system combined with a rather pleasent story, definitive and likable characters and a fast paced and fun fighting system. With even more features included.

I loved it and I wonder what others thought or think about this game. So consider this an invitation to talk and share your opinion on that game and its predecessors, the good, the bad and the curious.

If you haven't played it yet I strongly recommend you check it out! :)

Greetings,
Krolan
Hey everyone I just played It Moves which is like, the best game ever. I totally think it should be the game of the year, every year. I hope you all agree and I invite you to discuss this, preferably without in a entirely positive way. What do you think?
Max McGee
with sorrow down past the fence
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author=SnowOwl
Hey everyone I just played It Moves which is like, the best game ever. I totally think it should be the game of the year, every year. I hope you all agree and I invite you to discuss this, preferably without in a entirely positive way. What do you think?

hahahaha

this is funny both in the way you meant it to be and also because this (very literally i.e. about it moves) is now like the kind of post i would unironically make
Corfaisus
"It's frustrating because - as much as Corf is otherwise an irredeemable person - his 2k/3 mapping is on point." ~ psy_wombats
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author=Krolan
Hello everyone :)

I'm Krolan and I play RPG-Maker games. In my relatively short time on here I already played quite a selection of games, some of which were good, some of which were not so good. But some games really struck me when I saw the lack of replys and plays on them after playing and enjoying them.

Under World 3 is one such game.

I played the first one when it popped up in my search and loved the gameplay style of it, with it surprisingly intuitive direct-combat. So I continued through the Series and also played this game.

Under World 3 shows the final evolution of a well-crafted skill and equipment system combined with a rather pleasent story, definitive and likable characters and a fast paced and fun fighting system. With even more features included.

I loved it and I wonder what others thought or think about this game. So consider this an invitation to talk and share your opinion on that game and its predecessors, the good, the bad and the curious.

If you haven't played it yet I strongly recommend you check it out! :)

Greetings,
Krolan

I'll get right on it. You might expect a review from me shortly, if the game is any good at all. Then again, if you're secretly "moam", you're bound to get banned for multiple accounts before I get the chance. Btw, don't kiss your own ass; it's bad.

EDIT: I like using the bow to attack stuff, but seeing as this is in the era of copy-pasted scripts, I'm going to assume that's the case and, aside from that, the game's pretty meh. Characterization was poor (we get it, the knights are big angry douchebags who have a bone to pick with every villager because they're "weak") and, frankly, I don't understand why the hero couldn't have taken his own plate to the sink. It seemed kind of sad that the only reason his love interest (?) exists is to make him dinner, badger him about not being home, take care of the dishes, and go to bed. The leveling stuff was okay.

I'm not going to follow through with a full review, though.
Dude, I'm just a gamer.

I think I might have missed out to outline my true intentions here.

I plan to revive a Series of reviews I started back when I was heavily playing Warcraft III custom Campaigns and Single-Player-Maps dubbed "The Hive Journey" (Because it was on Hive-Workshop). This one would logically be called "The RMN Journey".

While I accept your opinion on the game, it seems to me that you judge it by some kind of guide-line of originality based on the inclusion or abscence of custom systems. Like the systems were made to be ignored. I also fail to recognize any similaritys to any other game I played (granted, there are many games and I play them in my personal (non-)order and obviously have not and probably will never be able to play them all)

With my way of reviewing I try to a certain amount of objectivity, which I aquire from other peoples opinions and summaries of their experience.

While I do divide my review in the rather typical "Story/gameplay/Music/Graphics" way, I still judge them ultimatively by fun-factor. I genuinly loved this game and was addicted til I beat it.

With this particular game there are many ways to play it, basically 5 different classes, and it is because of that that I require some more opinions/experiences on this one.



It saddens me that I'm accused to be some kind of fraud. I'd be insulted if I wouldn't realize that I'm completely unknown around here.

Sincerely,

Krolan, The Twisted
Don't take it personally, people here like joking around.
The thing is that discussion about one game in particular is usually done on the game page, as advertising your games is forbidden in the forums. And since there are so many trying to advertise their games, or having others advertise it, or create multiple accounts advertising their games, people are wary of topics like these.

So the forums serve larger scale discussions rather than ones about a single game (unless they are big titles, see videogame subforum) - searching for games similar to another, for example, or discussing traits of a genre.

I glanced over them and started the first or second I think. I'll keep in mind to start with the latest entry then

I'd rather make a status asking for fans of the series and then talk more about it in private/via pm whatever. That should prove more effective for what you'd like to do
I was being facetious, as your chosen topic is very focused and rather unusual. I wasn't actually accusing you of fraud. Welcome!
author=Kylaila
Don't take it personally


Oh, I don't :) I didn't expect that kind of reaction but I, too, read the "don't promote your game here" line, so I wasn't completely lost when it happened.

author=Kylaila
I glanced over them and started the first or second I think. I'll keep in mind to start with the latest entry then


If you could give me your experience on that afterwards, I'd be grateful :)

author=Kylaila
I'd rather make a status asking for fans of the series and then talk more about it in private/via pm whatever. That should prove more effective for what you'd like to do


If I get you right on this you suggest that I make a Status on my Profile or something like that? Thing is, I, as mentioned, realize that I'm a nobody around here, so I thought the fastest and best way to get a crowd impression on something would be the forums :/ In my naivity I actually thought that people who played the game would still roam the forums, since it is not like nobody played it.

My reasoning here is, that usually after playing a game, a person won't return to the game-page except if they want to post something along the lines of "AWESOME" or "Your game sucks". That's a generalization, but I don't think that I would get any response asking the same thing on the game page.

author=nurvuss
I was being facetious, as your chosen topic is very focused and rather unusual. I wasn't actually accusing you of fraud. Welcome!


Thanks! :) I actually reacted more to Corfaisus, your question on the otherhand I even misunderstood when I first read it. I thought you ask "if I made it through the game", which would be a valid question considering there are people who consider the series (especially the first one) rather difficult.



I hope some people who played the game back in the day or recently will find this thread before it vanishes into obscurity ^^''

Sincerely,
Krolan, The Twisted
It's not that people don't play games, it's that most talk about a particular game tends to go on the game pages because that's where people who have played the game tend to talk.

Besides, if we had a thread to discuss every game people found interesting or fun, the forums would break under the pressure. XD

Game discussion is part of why the game pages were made - the comment section there is solely for that actually.

Sometimes a topic will pop up in the forums where you can talk about different games that you enjoyed, but it's not often because, again, it can jam the place up. The whole site was designed so that forums were less about the games than game creation, while game pages are more about the specific games themselves.

author=Liberty
It's not that people don't play games, it's that most talk about a particular game tends to go on the game pages because that's where people who have played the game tend to talk.

Besides, if we had a thread to discuss every game people found interesting or fun, the forums would break under the pressure. XD

Game discussion is part of why the game pages were made - the comment section there is solely for that actually.

Sometimes a topic will pop up in the forums where you can talk about different games that you enjoyed, but it's not often because, again, it can jam the place up. The whole site was designed so that forums were less about the games than game creation, while game pages are more about the specific games themselves.


Thanks for this response!

I totally understand the initial idea behind the seperation, but I see a share of problems with it.

First and foremost, Games that have been around for a while (Underworld 3 for example since 2010) completely disappear from site-contiousness and can only be found either by accident (Send me in, coach!) or by searching through the whole list. And in the already unlikely case that someone stumbles upon an overlooked game, the game then has to compete against perceptions based on recent games and star-rating regarding their expected quality (before-download).

After all that, the small amount of people that play that game in 2014 still have to decide if they like it or not, and even then the relevance is minor, since the general crowd is not notified about it because of the seperation.

But that is just general mumbo-jumbo. My issue with it is just that it gets in the way of my reviewing, since if I post something like "Hey dude, if you actually played this game and actually bothered to go on the third comment-page of this game and then read this, please share your experience." Ignoring the fact that there it probably would still look like I was the cloaked Developer and therefore won't even get the response I need from someone who could give it.

Either way, I wouldn't dare ask to change the rules or mechanics of this site for my pety needs, it is however bothering me a little that I can't "promote" a game I like because I like it. Just to give an example What if I wanted to promote that 2-star game from 2008 because it is criminally overlooked? What if I wanted to make a thread about "most overlooked and underrated games 2012"? It still would be somehow promotion.

I also think that a developer talking about "It Moves" if it was still in developement would still kinda promote the same way if anybody who made a game from 2006 that is not in developement would if he started to talk about it.



If you fear overflow I understand that, but then again, there is a "Welp, Welp" category, which certainly doesn't help with "overflowing". So In my opinion there could very well be a "Old-Games-Corner" category where Devs are allowed to mention/promote their old games, since nobody would be forced to click on "old-games-corner", and get opinions and stuff. Maybe even for the purpose of a sequel? Who knows.


God, I write too much. Sorry for that. Have a nice one :)

Sincerely,
Krolan, The Twisted.
We're keeping it as a no on the discussion in the forums. Site rules are there for a reason. In fact, there was a time we were going to remove the forum altogether.

If you want to promote a game...
Write a review.
Promote them outside of the site and drum up interest from outside.
Talk on the pages (legit talk) to create buzz.
Do a Let's Play or something media-wise - a fanmade trailer, fanart, fanfiction.
Nominate a good screenshot for being featured.
Nominate the game for the relevant feature position (check User Feedback forum for the Featured game threads).

These things allow for games to come up on the front page, even if they're old. Every new review and media piece gets some time on the front page.
A game that gets life on the game page will get buzz score which can get them on the front page as well.

Add it to a Playlist and share that with people you know.
Take part in the Secret Santa.
Take part in the new topic I just made for this reason.

There are quite a few ways for games to get noticed. Forum is not the way.
I thank you very much for all the advice, I appreciate it alot :)

My problem of not being able to ask the active community who played it on their opinion on that game still stands, but since there is no resonance I have to assume that they don't exist anyway.

I'll see what I can do, aside from that I apologize for any disturbance I may have caused you through my topic.

Take care everyone :)

Krolan,
The Twisted
The active community who played it are more than likely those who are subscribed to the game, and making a comment on the game page will trigger a notification (or, indeed, adding a review/media content/fan stuff) that each and every subscriber will see.

Notifications are one of the big things about the site - getting a notice when someone comments on something you also played is great, and even better when it's a game you made.

(Don't forget to subscribe to games you like! ;D )
Question:

1. Am I allowed to upload Music from the game I'm reviewing to implement it into the review itself?

2. If I am allowed to do so, is there a way to include it with a small player, since Forum posts are obviously not html-coded?

It should be okay, though I don't know why you would need to. Then again, we do allow video reviews, so... In the case that it's an OST (Original Sound Track) it might be a good idea to PM the creator of the game and ask their permission, though. Just to cover your ass. ^.^

Oh, check here for how to add music to posts. Near the bottom are the list of tags that work on site (the mp3 ones aren't too bad, but the soundcloud one is a little bit of a bitch if you're not sure what to do). Videos also work, if need be.
Thank you =)

Got it to work under Soundcloud, which will suffice. I think that's all from me on this topic. I'll send off the review but thats it then :)

Edit: The Review is pending now. If anyone can tell me or direct me to somewhere where there is explained if I have to personally ask someone to take a look at it and if so who that would be that would be very much appreciated :)
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