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[MAFIA] THE RESISTANCE: AVALON MAFIA - GAME ON
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Jeroen_Sol
Nothing reveals Humanity so well as the games it plays. A game of betrayal, where the most suspicious person is brutally murdered? How savage.
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Jeroen_Sol
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None proposed
With 9 alive, it takes 5 to accept.
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Current votecount as of 2019-05-24, 19:11 GMT+2:
pianotm: 0 -OzzyTheOne
Not voting: 8 - pianotm, Cap_H, LockeZ, demonlord5000, PlatinumAshes, psy_wombats, Kylaila, Gourd_Clae, OzzyTheOne
With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch.
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Day 4 will end 2019-05-26, 22:00 GMT+2, in 50 hours, 49 minutes, or when hammer falls.
None proposed
With 9 alive, it takes 5 to accept.
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Current votecount as of 2019-05-24, 19:11 GMT+2:
pianotm: 0 -
Not voting: 8 - pianotm, Cap_H, LockeZ, demonlord5000, PlatinumAshes, psy_wombats, Kylaila, Gourd_Clae, OzzyTheOne
With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch.
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Day 4 will end 2019-05-26, 22:00 GMT+2, in 50 hours, 49 minutes, or when hammer falls.
author=LockeZ
Of course, that also means it's possibile that what I just suggested actually happened on night 1, and Ozzy's role claim is fake, and nobody is Lancelot. We also ended day 1 about 18 hours early. So keep that in mind. I didn't even consider that possibility before, but now that it happened a second time...
I still find this very unlikely, because if scum would've done this, there was a high chance of Lancelot counterclaiming and that coudl've only ended badly for scum. While it is true that I can't be confirmed to be Lancelot until I am dead or the game is over, I still think they actually targeted me on night 1.
As for a team for this day, I #propose OzzyTheOne, Gourd_Clae, Cap_H.
I'm going with that team because Gourd_Clae and Cap are currently on my neutral list.
@Locke what team do you propose?
demonlord5000
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Interesting that there was no nk. I wouldn't call it a speed issue though. Everyone spoke at least once after it was obvious ym was going to die (except cap who spoke after, but he could of threw in his vote after he realized since jero put the game on hold to wait on peoples actions).
At this stage we still don't know if there is a mordred or not. I do think that in the event he wasn't in the game, it would be beneficial for scum for us to think that there were. I'm still suspicious of psy for reasons I listed before, but only in a non-mordred game.
I think PA is town. He didn't have to go after oberon, and scum would have wanted to keep them in the game as a final trump card. I'd be willing to go for psy in a non-mordred game for reasons I said before.
I'm willing to belize ozzy is lancealot. In the event that this was a three scum game as predicted, and ozzy were scum, I could see him proposing that we have merlin revealing themselves for the situation where we lynch one scum, ozzy dies for merlin, then we lynch the last scum before they get a nk. The fact ozzy didn't propose this plan makes me think he's telling the truth. I would not recommend doing this though because there is still a slight chance I'm wrong and he got away with lying, and because if there is a mordred in this game, none of us knows who it is yet.
One thing to keep in mind about the non-mordred info is that merlin would absolutely know mine and caps alignment. If it comes to lynching me or cap in this stage, merlin would have to pretend that they don't know.
Lockez has been extremely town.
Piano and kylaila are neutral for me.
I'd be willing to lynch gourd today. I also suspected day 1 just because of a comment I disliked, but I have no real proof. Looking back, I don't see anything that gives me a town feeling.
At this stage we still don't know if there is a mordred or not. I do think that in the event he wasn't in the game, it would be beneficial for scum for us to think that there were. I'm still suspicious of psy for reasons I listed before, but only in a non-mordred game.
I think PA is town. He didn't have to go after oberon, and scum would have wanted to keep them in the game as a final trump card. I'd be willing to go for psy in a non-mordred game for reasons I said before.
I'm willing to belize ozzy is lancealot. In the event that this was a three scum game as predicted, and ozzy were scum, I could see him proposing that we have merlin revealing themselves for the situation where we lynch one scum, ozzy dies for merlin, then we lynch the last scum before they get a nk. The fact ozzy didn't propose this plan makes me think he's telling the truth. I would not recommend doing this though because there is still a slight chance I'm wrong and he got away with lying, and because if there is a mordred in this game, none of us knows who it is yet.
One thing to keep in mind about the non-mordred info is that merlin would absolutely know mine and caps alignment. If it comes to lynching me or cap in this stage, merlin would have to pretend that they don't know.
Lockez has been extremely town.
Piano and kylaila are neutral for me.
I'd be willing to lynch gourd today. I also suspected day 1 just because of a comment I disliked, but I have no real proof. Looking back, I don't see anything that gives me a town feeling.
LockeZ
I'd really like to get rid of LockeZ. His play style is way too unpredictable. He's always like this too. If he ran a country, he'd just kill and imprison people at random until crime stopped.
5958
"I find it very unlikely that I was lying" rofl
The mission team you proposed seems a little dangerous to me. At this point I think we should make sure that the people on the team are as townish as possible, because narrowing down Mordred/Merlin's identity by one person is a bigger deal each day. "One of these 9 people isn't your target" is just numerically a more powerful hint than "One of these 13 people isn't your target." So I would like to:
#propose OzzyTheOne, LockeZ, psy_wombats
I do think it's worth noting that even though Gourd voted for YM, he only posted one very short message with the lynch vote several hours before hammer, and wasn't otherwise around, so I think he's a possibility for the scum who is responsible for nightkills.
For now I would prefer to target Cap_H or Gourd_Clae. As I said yesterday, PlatinumAshes was the one who figured out and announced that he thought Muffle was Oberon based on things she said. And he was right. I don't think scum would do that.
The mission team you proposed seems a little dangerous to me. At this point I think we should make sure that the people on the team are as townish as possible, because narrowing down Mordred/Merlin's identity by one person is a bigger deal each day. "One of these 9 people isn't your target" is just numerically a more powerful hint than "One of these 13 people isn't your target." So I would like to:
#propose OzzyTheOne, LockeZ, psy_wombats
I do think it's worth noting that even though Gourd voted for YM, he only posted one very short message with the lynch vote several hours before hammer, and wasn't otherwise around, so I think he's a possibility for the scum who is responsible for nightkills.
For now I would prefer to target Cap_H or Gourd_Clae. As I said yesterday, PlatinumAshes was the one who figured out and announced that he thought Muffle was Oberon based on things she said. And he was right. I don't think scum would do that.
I seem to have missed that PA post, that does indeed paint him like town because I don't see why scum would do that at all. Also, I'm gonna go ahead and #accept OzzyTheOne, LockeZ, psy_wombats because the reasons you've given are quite good Locke.
As of right now, my only suspect for scum is Demonlord. I'm still neutral on Gourd and Cap, but Gourd could indeed be scum too, the way he's been trying to stay off radar still bothers me.
As of right now, my only suspect for scum is Demonlord. I'm still neutral on Gourd and Cap, but Gourd could indeed be scum too, the way he's been trying to stay off radar still bothers me.
author=PlatinumAshesauthor=KylailaWhy not?
Thinking about it, scum, except Oberon, would not need to drop such hints here, they have scum chat for that, last I heard. That leaves the possibility of Oberon, ofc, but I am not feeling that.
Honestly I wasn't sure how to take her weird remark, but now that you've pointed out that she could be Oberon it's really starting to make sense to me. I wouldn't be against a Muffle lynch today at this point.
#lynch Muffle
Actually, it was Kylaila that mentioned that Muffle could be Oberon, PlatinumAshes only said that it made sense, he never proposed the idea.
I'm here! I'm alive! Six hours of sleep became four hours of sleep due to allergy attacks. Yay, me!
#accept OzzyTheOne, LockeZ, psy_wombats
I, however, am not feeling so good about psy_wombats. Anyone remember day 2 when he tried to propose me, himself, and demonlord again after we had had a successful quest? I went back through some of the posts and I found an interesting one by Yellow Magic:
It's an interesting point, I must say.
#accept OzzyTheOne, LockeZ, psy_wombats
I, however, am not feeling so good about psy_wombats. Anyone remember day 2 when he tried to propose me, himself, and demonlord again after we had had a successful quest? I went back through some of the posts and I found an interesting one by Yellow Magic:
Yellow Magic
@psy_wombatssorry I'm still not sure why you're proposing the same team? That seems like something that would aid you if you knew for certain none of the three people in this group were Mordred....
It's an interesting point, I must say.
I just saw this post by chance when I started looking for a YM post to go to his profile page to find his post history.
What's your point? That was several posts earlier. I changed my mind and didn't even think about it. That was covered between me and PA.
Cap_HpianotmBefore reading further I find a contradiction in this post. You nominated him for a mission several posts earlier. I don't think the vote makes sense from your perspective.
I will admit that at this point, I'm becoming less enthusiastic about YM. He's barely there, and this no-metagaming bullshit and then ignoring people's opinions because it's metagaming is really starting to get on my nerves.
Yellow Magic. Find some time in your busy schedule to start playing the game you signed up for!
#lynch YellowMagic
Also, YM is know mislynch bait. I suspect him for his posts myself as he hasn't posted anything so far (page 28) to change my mind.
What's your point? That was several posts earlier. I changed my mind and didn't even think about it. That was covered between me and PA.
LockeZ
I'd really like to get rid of LockeZ. His play style is way too unpredictable. He's always like this too. If he ran a country, he'd just kill and imprison people at random until crime stopped.
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author=pianotm
I went back through some of the posts and I found an interesting one by Yellow Magic:
Yellow Magic
@psy_wombatssorry I'm still not sure why you're proposing the same team? That seems like something that would aid you if you knew for certain none of the three people in this group were Mordred....
It's an interesting point, I must say.
How? I don't understand the point. Whether the people in the group are Mordred or not doesn't affect anything about the mission, does it?
We didn't know that at the time. We went through a phase where we weren't sure if only random people on the team were confirmed not Mordred or if it was random people from the whole game. When I saw random people from the teams twice in a row, I just assumed it was like, you go on a quest, you discover something about yourself. Regardless, even now, YM's right. Why do the exact same team twice in a row? Maybe now that we've got a few confirmed not Mordred's putting that same team through might yield different results, but then, two days in a row when we were still fresh off of the first day phase and still didn't have good reads on each other?
psy_wombats
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I have limited internet access right now a d will be limited to phone posting the rest of the game - will try to catch up in the next hour or so
psy_wombats
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So far the only person scum has actually managed to kill is oddrabbit. I still feel like we're being toyed with . I now doubt Ozzy got hit d1. I still think he's town because he claimed so fasy which would be suicidal if real Lancelot existed.
Piano I have no idea what you're yelling about with Mordred. Why are you even so sure Mordred exists?
Ozzy actually I actually buy this theory about trying to frame you. Apart from that, I still think PA should be left alone - only way he is scum is he's assassin and I dont think hes scum anyway. Why do you want to kill demon lord but not gourd?
Piano I have no idea what you're yelling about with Mordred. Why are you even so sure Mordred exists?
Ozzy actually I actually buy this theory about trying to frame you. Apart from that, I still think PA should be left alone - only way he is scum is he's assassin and I dont think hes scum anyway. Why do you want to kill demon lord but not gourd?
psy_wombats
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PA bringing up Oberon first is isn't relevant. Hunting Oberon is a convenient way for scum to scumhunt without having to pretend to not know who they're after.
Gourd suspicion seems well-founded when he basically has taken no initiative almost all game and not since attacking muffle I think.
Welp I guess this wouldn't be mafia without piano attacking me for something nonsensical. I don't get your point at all or your team selection strategy at all. this is the second time you simultaneously call someone scum then try to send them on a quest. Please explain what you're trying to do here.
Gourd suspicion seems well-founded when he basically has taken no initiative almost all game and not since attacking muffle I think.
Welp I guess this wouldn't be mafia without piano attacking me for something nonsensical. I don't get your point at all or your team selection strategy at all. this is the second time you simultaneously call someone scum then try to send them on a quest. Please explain what you're trying to do here.
PlatinumAshes
I am now certain that you are not scum and are just town trying to play scum as hard as possible.
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author=pianotm
I'm here! I'm alive! Six hours of sleep became four hours of sleep due to allergy attacks. Yay, me!
Yikes. Hope you feel better soon!
psy_wombats
Piano I have no idea what you're yelling about with Mordred. Why are you even so sure Mordred exists?
Here's a question nobody's asking: why is everyone so sure that he doesn't? I mean, I get that we have to accept that the quests showing not Mordred could very well be a red herring. We should be scum-hunting regular scum if, for no other reason, Mordred might not be in the game. However, if we're just going to assume that Mordred ISN'T in the game, we're probably going to lose. The only scum we've got dropped from the game. That's not good at all.
So, while we've got LockeZ talking about how this game was probably RNGed because card game that's supposed to RNGed, we've got him assuming that Mordred is in the game, even while pointing out that he might not be. That's a pro-town position.
But you. It's funny how you say this,
psy_wombats, but now that I've pointed to you, you say this: "Piano I have no idea what you're yelling about with Mordred. Why are you even so sure Mordred exists?"
I'll go to 95% confidence Mordred exists now. Otherwise Lancelot only exists to prolong the inevitable vs give town a final endgame shot.
Can you even begin to explain this?
Chiming in! Won't make more posting today, but will tomorrow morning. Also PA I haven't forgotten about you asking more about the post related to muffle, still want me to elaborate?
Either way. I am home, it's 10, and I haven't had dinner. Laters
Either way. I am home, it's 10, and I haven't had dinner. Laters
LockeZ
I'd really like to get rid of LockeZ. His play style is way too unpredictable. He's always like this too. If he ran a country, he'd just kill and imprison people at random until crime stopped.
5958
Scum definitely wants Oberon to stay alive though. They can win by outnumbering us, in case you forgot how mafia works. And there's 50/50 chance that they have a vanilla lose condition of "all scum die."
I mean they could be throwing Oberon under the bus to make themselves look good. Actually, if scum was willing to throw Oberon under the bus, then I would consider that to be the first real evidence that Mordred exists. Because killing random scum, while still dangerous, is far more of an acceptable gamble if keeping her alive isn't guaranteed to win the game for them.
I mean they could be throwing Oberon under the bus to make themselves look good. Actually, if scum was willing to throw Oberon under the bus, then I would consider that to be the first real evidence that Mordred exists. Because killing random scum, while still dangerous, is far more of an acceptable gamble if keeping her alive isn't guaranteed to win the game for them.
