[MAFIA] PRISONER'S DILEMMA. GAME OVER
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Pretty sure this is emily's second game ever, at least on this site. That's one of the reasons I can believe emily made a bad call if she is scum. I also noticed that she avoided some accusations, while becoming incredibly defensive in this day phase. There's also the things I posted last night that I observed with her votes.
Ozzy has leveled up! Gained ability: Ninja the ninjs.
I'm going to have to strengthen my ways of the ninja.
I'm going to have to strengthen my ways of the ninja.
well i still think it's emily but if no one else agrees i guess i would lynch fomar or demonlord. i believe odd after he outted the full thing about his role, and i don't think tale or PA are scum. it just leaves those two by process of elimination.
If we take Odd as confirmed town then odds of us winning rise to 4 in 5.
With him out of the equation my choice of lynches would be Emily or PA.
I went and read the treacherous mafia game that piano was talking about and I think I agree Emily does seem different.
The person who has benefitted most from the bizzare Shinan kill is definitely PA, he was looking at a day 3 lynch. Had we had an exoected night kill there is a good chance we'd have already lynched him. Everything he has done from the start has been high risk, I can't shake my doubt about him.
I'm not in a rush to hammer but happy to lynch either one
With him out of the equation my choice of lynches would be Emily or PA.
I went and read the treacherous mafia game that piano was talking about and I think I agree Emily does seem different.
The person who has benefitted most from the bizzare Shinan kill is definitely PA, he was looking at a day 3 lynch. Had we had an exoected night kill there is a good chance we'd have already lynched him. Everything he has done from the start has been high risk, I can't shake my doubt about him.
I'm not in a rush to hammer but happy to lynch either one
well to me, PA just seemed like he was trying to make a big play but came off weirdly so he just stopped because we weren't into it.
and obviously we promised piano we'd get him but it's like, he kinda helped ivory stop that first lynch on shinan after it almost went through and was definitely all about getting psy lynched, a powerful maf role. i've seen worse and crazier fakeclaiming and he stopped and outted properly when he needed to. it looks like he just plays recklessly when not a PR, which can be useful if it gets mafia to kill you instead of one.
and obviously we promised piano we'd get him but it's like, he kinda helped ivory stop that first lynch on shinan after it almost went through and was definitely all about getting psy lynched, a powerful maf role. i've seen worse and crazier fakeclaiming and he stopped and outted properly when he needed to. it looks like he just plays recklessly when not a PR, which can be useful if it gets mafia to kill you instead of one.
author=ivoryjones
Welp, still waitng for PA's "why you shouldn't lynch me" post
Also,
#Lynch fomar
Wait, I probably missed something vital, but why are you lynching Fomar?
I agree that it's emily. I canceled my vote of consideration to hear others have to say.
Emily, what sort discussion were you expecting before lynch happened in D2? Do you think you could answer my suspicions at the time if I'm ready?
D2 was a wreck to town as D1 to scum. I can a place vote- to participate in a discussion I might as well explain why I voted.
Emily, what sort discussion were you expecting before lynch happened in D2? Do you think you could answer my suspicions at the time if I'm ready?
D2 was a wreck to town as D1 to scum. I can a place vote- to participate in a discussion I might as well explain why I voted.
author=ivoryjones
Welp, still waitng for PA's "why you shouldn't lynch me" post
Also,
#Lynch fomar
Why? Surely if I was the remaining scum I would have night killed you, you're confirmed town, and while you're the person who has consistently voted for me, it wouldn't have been that suspicious if you were the night kill. Also we'd be on track to lynch PA.
Whomever chose Shinan may have wanted you to think it had been a rookie mistake being as you seem consistently convinced that a new player is scum.
In case, anyone's wondering "why shinan", I think it's most likely because I've put a post re: lib's "reads" on everyone before - The only 3 who I've mentioned was psy, emily and tale. Primarily, tale; next were the former 2 but I've accidentally left another player - fomar. I know 99% of lib's post of that time were basically "___ needs to post more!!" which makes her "list" incredibly useless but the other 3 definitely stood out, yet fomar's one was so subtle that I've completely ignored it. It was just a simple "He needs to post more...", but, I mean, ellipses are super suspicious, right?
Previously after process of elimination from lib's and psy's lynches, I've concluded that no way in hell shinan would be scum considering he was a very easy target that no one cared to leave alive D1. I basically said he was 99% town due to that.
Me, ozzy and kitten being confirmed town, along with shinan, lessened the list of scum considerably. Given that ozzy "claimed" to be 1-shot "vig" first, there was no way that scum would be certain that kitten was too, since ozzy claimed first, so she could always lie about being 1-shot. And also later on I came out and revealed that I was in fact the vig. If scum was being extremely careful, it would make sense why they were hesitant to kill either of us 3. Psy mentioned he was "2-shot" so it wouldn't be weird for scum to assume that either one of us were lying too. (Also, in case anyone's wondering, psy's death flavor never mentioned how many "shots" he's got so he may or may not have had unlimited shots.
Also, unless anyone's got any funny idea, it's just a lynch I'm putting out here.
Yup.
Not an invitation to hammer. Yup.
Previously after process of elimination from lib's and psy's lynches, I've concluded that no way in hell shinan would be scum considering he was a very easy target that no one cared to leave alive D1. I basically said he was 99% town due to that.
Me, ozzy and kitten being confirmed town, along with shinan, lessened the list of scum considerably. Given that ozzy "claimed" to be 1-shot "vig" first, there was no way that scum would be certain that kitten was too, since ozzy claimed first, so she could always lie about being 1-shot. And also later on I came out and revealed that I was in fact the vig. If scum was being extremely careful, it would make sense why they were hesitant to kill either of us 3. Psy mentioned he was "2-shot" so it wouldn't be weird for scum to assume that either one of us were lying too. (Also, in case anyone's wondering, psy's death flavor never mentioned how many "shots" he's got so he may or may not have had unlimited shots.
Also, unless anyone's got any funny idea, it's just a lynch I'm putting out here.
Yup.
Not an invitation to hammer. Yup.
Also, I forgot to clarify that since 3 of us were confirmed town with confirmed abilities, shinan was the only other confirmed town from my list that hasn't said anything regarding his role. After psy's coincidental lynch, it's very likely scum was terrified of him being a potential cop (or even just any power role), so scum thought he was the "safer" bet to kill rather than kitten (if scum's deducing that kitten actually had 2-shots protection and would never in hell choose shinan), so, in a way, it was actually kinda smart why they killed shinan.
What if the 3 scums really don't know who each other are in D1? If that's true, how can Liberty's list be reliable? Would Liberty really sold Psy out like that?
author=tale
ivory, oddrabbit = confirmed town
What about Ozzy? He and Ivory are masons, so wouldn't he be confirmed?
author=tale
Emily, what sort discussion were you expecting before lynch happened in D2?
Usually I would want to wait because more information and more interaction usually benefits town. I would want to have heard more from Piano, even though I thought he was scum, because when he flipped town I could trust his suspicions were at least made in good faith.
I'm aware that doesn't sound great for me since most of what he got to say was about why he thought I was scum. Although he did cancel his vote on me, so...I guess make of that what you will.
author=tale
Do you think you could answer my suspicions at the time if I'm ready?
I'm sorry I don't understand, what do you mean?
author=tale
What if the 3 scums really don't know who each other are in D1? If that's true, how can Liberty's list be reliable? Would Liberty really sold Psy out like that?
tale, you brought up an interesting point before. You asked what if scum couldn't communicate during DAY phase right?
Going by this logic, it would make a lot of sense why scum were so uncoordinated on D1. I THINK they KNOW each other AFTER they chose to have a power role or not, JUST that they can't communicate during the day.
If they didn't know each other, it would make more sense to not go aggro at the start. It's "prisoner's dilemma" after all. Lib went after piano pretty aggressively. She's a goon. Do you think she would risk town lynching one of her possible teammates that could possibly have a PR if she didn't know beforehand who her teammates were? I think not.
Also what do you mean sold psy out?




















