[MAFIA] SPY VS. MAFIA II DAY 3

author=CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
@Cap quote them then

everyone else, please quote this post and vote on whether or not you would like the rest of this day to proceed in easy mode or hard mode.

I feel like this is a trap.

#lynch Cave_dog_is_back

i'm going to assume that's a vote for yes.

Now I want to make a mafia game where at one point 50% of all living players just randomly die.

if you all want to setupspec yourselves to an early grave, as i knew you one day were going to, then i must now present my exculpatory evidence. the item i've just used is essentially just a weaker version of demonlord's doublevote plant. Giving one member of the scumteam a doublevote and another a vote-erasing item that backfires and gets passed around (strictly worse) would be both A. stupidly redundant and B. do nothing to counter the agent toolset.

now line up and proclaim me innocent. (incidentally, this is not a meta i have. I've literally never done this in a game before iirc.)

Rude.

psy, if I got grifted by cap, I'm sorry. I don't think that happened since I'm never wrong at all and also you have been all up in my grill with a false narrative today. If we fell victim toe a 10% tuba chance failure, piano will be devoured by wolves when the game is over.

#lynch psy

Pianotm: Does the use of the Stupidity Gauntlet mean that hammer only requires four votes now? Four votes is now a majority of possible votes, instead of a tie.

By the way, at the beginning of the game I said I had a reason for leaning town on Cavedog that I didn't want to share. I might as well share it now, even though it became irrelevant at some point later when I realized Cavedog didn't know the details of the setup yet and hadn't seen the previous Spy vs. Mafia game.

Right at the very beginning of the game, he fakeclaimed as the "mauve agent."

author=CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
I'm going to fakeclaim. I'm the mauve agent. I win when any other faction wins. To this end, I can give out several items each night that will work on everyone except me. I have no way to protect myself though and am not a threat to anyone on my own, so please do not target me with your murder actions.

Cavedog does stuff like that all the time, and sometimes I feel like it's purely random, but in this case I thought it might not be. In the previous Spy vs. Mafia game, the scum actually did have colors for code names. If the same thing were true again, then even if that weren't one of the colors, it might get them all to talk about it in their private chat and make sure that none of them were the ones who said it. The double agent could then use that discussion to try to narrow down the identities of scum.

The same thing could of course have happened in the agent chat, but the agents have far less reason to care about each other's identities. I mean, each-other's. So it probably wouldn't. And last game it was scum, not agents, that were color-coded. The people in the agent chat last game were named Tom, Dick and Harry.

Now, as I said, this is all irrelevant now. I'm just sharing it so that people don't think I'm still holding onto a secret reason for thinking he's town, like an item or something. I don't have any special insights I haven't shared. So make your own conclusions and vote based on your own feelings.

I do still think Cavedog is town just because he's been acting like town, and because everything he's said in this game has made sense to me, and because his item is redundant with Demonlord's, and because he seemed genuinely surprised and frustrated when he learned parts of the setup that agents and scum would have known immediately, and because I think Psy is scum. Just not because of the stuff at the beginning of day one any more.

On your head be it Lockez, if Cave is scum I'll hold you responsible (for probably a day). I agree though the combination of items seems unlikely for a team. Also the tuba is definitely an item that could benefit both sides.

I still don't feel great about Cap_H, most towns would have allowed themselves to be mis-lynched to narrow the scum down. Had he have flipped town we might have found something useful. I'll throw my vote behing Psy in the morning if nothing has changed but putting us one vote from hammer when there is a chance of tuba and still a while left leaves me uneasy.