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[MAFIA] CHRONO TRIGGER - A MAFIA THROUGH TIME - GAME OVER
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AlaskanEmily
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Closeauthor=Cap_H
to tie it up.
That's not a real lynch reason.
author=Cap_H
Hm, an interesting angle demon.
I'm afraid this game could be solved or almost solved via claims.
Yeah, if princess slanks like this, there's no reason to keep her alive as a newbie and possibly mislynching her isn't as harsh.
#travel age of lavos
This looks bad, there's not really much reason to go after Lizard here, and seriously is nobody going to call out trying to travel to the age of Lavos? How is that not a complete scum move?
author=LockeZauthor=Cap_HRemember when we did FF8 mafia and nobody was Quistis? I'm somehow reminded of that game.
I'm afraid this game could be solved or almost solved via claims.
Ayla, Lucca and/or Marle might just not exist in this game, in which case we will have to actually figure out who scum is. If all seven main characters are town roles, that leaves two scum and two vanilla town, so we can just lynch everyone who doesn't role claim and win by the end of day 4. Unless scum has a second extra night kill in addition to Lavos's fire spell (which apparently already got used up, and she can't use it again anyway because she'll be dead at the end of the day today), or a Life spell, or some other power that alters the number of kills per day.
I don't know how much I like this setup if all we have to do to win is role claim. Which will absolutely end up being the case if there are 6 publicly known power roles left and 9 players left, and presumably (hopefully) only 1 scum left.
But if Muffle/Magus is scum, or if one or more characters don't exist as a player role, then we could still potentially lose even if scum has no powers left to use. So I don't think I'm in "stop caring about the game because we automatically win" mode just yet. Though I'm closer than is comfortable.
Honestly, one of my first questions entering into this is "Why don't we just go around and say who we are or do some stuff to prove it like in normal mafia?" By now we know who has played the Crono Trigger before and have enough info to kiiinda deduce who could be bullshitting upon roles in that regard and who isn't. I'm cool to say what my role is but not sure if it would somehow magically get me targeted for some reason since everyone seems so super secretive about what they are in this game, even though it seems most of us are villagers, anyway.
author=Fomar0153author=Lizardman_PrincessJoke votes are past, what are your reasons for choosing LockeZ?
Ope sorry!! Guess I made you mad anyway! ;-;
#Lynch LockeZ
author=Lizardman_Princessauthor=LockeZOpe sorry!! Guess I made you mad anyway! ;-;
I would actually think Magus is more likely to be an independent role. That would kind of explain some of her behavior, like how she is entirely just defending herself instead of scum-hunting (she's not even pretending to scum-hunt, really). And also make it more believable that she has the same power as another member of town.
On the other hand, if I were scum and I had to fake a roleclaim, Magus is exactly who I'd claim as, for that exact reason. If the real Magus is neutral then they might just decide to keep their mouth shut. This strategy seems implausible for an Emily/Muffle pair though because neither of them have played Chrono Trigger. So the Magus-as-independent thing probably wouldn't occur to either of them. They might have just
So in short I actually don't think Muffle is scum now.
I guess that narrows it down.
#lynch Lizardman_Princess
#Lynch LockeZ
author=CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
my joke got deleted. anyway voting my friend is a scumtell
lol its ok, i haven't really been as present this week, so I guess its understandable.
author=Cap_H
#Lynch Lizardman_Princessto tie it up.
I'm not the freshest right now, so excuse me for missing grammar.
sabd days when our heroes turn on us ;-;
#Travel 1000AD
This ^
Fomar0153
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author=Lizardman_Princess
I'm cool to say what my role is but not sure if it would somehow magically get me targeted for some reason since everyone seems so super secretive about what they are in this game, even though it seems most of us are villagers, anyway.
The issue is we don't know the general setup, for example we don't know if there are two or (more likely) three scum. We also don't have a good grasp of what the power roles do although that is becoming clearer.
The fact you've said you're a power role will have already made you a target. I don't know what you have to lose (if you're town) by telling us the name of your power role. Though you might want to keep your actions secret still for the time being. I didn't feel safe announcing my power until after the fact yesterday incase it could be blocked, I was hoping scum would treat it as a desperate bluff if they did have the power to stop me.
author=Fomar0153author=Lizardman_PrincessJoke votes are past, what are your reasons for choosing LockeZ?
Ope sorry!! Guess I made you mad anyway! ;-;
#Lynch LockeZ
Oh LORD that previous post was messy. Apologies!! Corrected is below!
author=Lizardman_Princess
Concerning Lockez:
I know I just kinda randomly voted last time but it seems like the one role most everyone has agreed on to smell a bit stinky at one time or another is the one LockeZ has.. However, he does seem to know a great deal about the game that this Mafia is based on and provides a lot of insight into the more core *reasons* as to why the roles are the way they are and the options we have. I wouldn't *want* to lynch him because he's a big bank of knowledge, but also it seems kinda like he's very good at spearheading the conversation with his posts... Though also, naturally if you make yourself useful, people are more likely to *want* to keep you around, reguardless, so maybe that's a factor. Very smart, but smart can be spooky and easily misused if you have to play on the "bad-guy side". :x
(I'm also a bit scared of making him mad because he could probably just find a way to crush me with all the smarts he has.. plus no-one likes being pointed fingers at.. sorry!!)
This ^ Ironically, I actually posted this before I read that he voted for me. I locked in the #lynch to LockeZ because I didn't really feel that bad about being suspicious anymore.
author=Fomar0153author=Lizardman_PrincessThe issue is we don't know the general setup, for example we don't know if there are two or (more likely) three scum. We also don't have a good grasp of what the power roles do although that is becoming clearer.
I'm cool to say what my role is but not sure if it would somehow magically get me targeted for some reason since everyone seems so super secretive about what they are in this game, even though it seems most of us are villagers, anyway.
The fact you've said you're a power role will have already made you a target. I don't know what you have to lose (if you're town) by telling us the name of your power role. Though you might want to keep your actions secret still for the time being. I didn't feel safe announcing my power until after the fact yesterday incase it could be blocked, I was hoping scum would treat it as a desperate bluff if they did have the power to stop me.
SEE??? I don't even know what a "power role" is, my guy. ;-;
Not much I have to respond to. Are we at the part of the day where we start focusing on votes? It's not often LockeZ slips up and misses something which he's done like twice, maybe, now. But everyone makes mistakes and overlooks things, so I was thinking he was over excited scum overlooking things and trying to point things that are wrong out or something but he probably just genuinely missed a couple things? I've been there, I'd sure hate to lynch him for something I think is scummy but turns out it's... just a slip up >.>
But I don't know who else I'd be more comfortable voting for? Oldpat's post last night felt to me like he was grasping at straws, *felt like that*, I'm not sure how to explain why it felt that way to me though. The ones I'd vote for are LockeZ, Oldpat or Lizard... but I don't want to vote Lizard on second day since they're new and struggling and I want them to have at least three days worth to play the game. I'd only resort to lynching lizard because I wouldn't know who else to, but I'd be more comfortable voting LockeZ or Oldpat other than that crappy reason for Lizard.
I'm not a fan of mass claiming because I feel it ruins the detective aspect of the game. Oh mass claim and shuffle through scummy claims = ez win, no actual detective gameplay. Or at least that's how it feels, I mean if its like day 5 and we're at our wits end I usually don't mind. But I mean, if that's what we're doing it's fine. Though I am glad my claim may have helped uncover the mysterious on fire AE, assuming it does deflect and not just completely nullify their power.
As for Oldpats thing. Yes, nightkilling odd wasn't he best decision because he was already confirmed town. However I think they were relying on AE's kill on Fomar, if they had nightkilled Fomar and than burned Odd it wouldn't have went through, but then again it would also make it where odd could just heal himself so they went after the healer for the nightkill. I'm sure if they had suspected my barrier they would've played it differently, and getting rid of confirmed town kind of hurts town because it downs a trusted player. I understand their kill, for one thing they got rid of the healer and was hoping for two confirmed kills... Does that make sense? But I don't think it was the most noobish play considering they were relying on that fire which I might've completely just reflected. Haha, see I'm helpful! :D
Oh yeah @Lizard, why did you just vote LockeZ? I mean he's one I'd be down to lynch but the sudden way you lynched him is kind of weird.
Feeling good about AE not swapping town, I still feel bad just blatantly talking aloud about letting them burn to death while they're... alive and burning to death but uh, not much else we can do there.
Demon has been helpful, especially yesterday. He reads town to me, the lynching me for having the same power is valid because I would've thought the same but I think it's confirmed same powers are being used so like, I'm not mad.
Psy seems a bit blunt and somewhat aggressive with how he doesn't mind to lynch on spot once he's made his mind up, but he's willing to listen and stand back and revote. Seems mostly town but I wouldn't be surprised if he flipped smart, passive aggressive scum.
LockeZ is usually very informative and catches the smallest stuff. He's been helpful and pointed out interesting things, like the whole magus being independent wasn't the worst idea, I myself am not independent but there might be one in this game. I don't know if it's a good idea to base people off past mafia games but LockeZ seems to be playing strange from how I remember he plays? He seems to be less willing to talk about EVERYTHING rather than specific stuff. I'm leaning careful scum on him?
I'm not sure about Lizard. They're new and I like to give new players a chance to at least reach day 3 even if I think they're scum. They're either new scum or new town. I do want that lynch for LockeZ explanation.
Cave as always I can't read? But that's just cave. Currently I don't wanna lynch them, I'd see Cave as independent more than anyone else here. I'm not leaning for town or scum for them.
Fomar is definitely town just because of his ability, also I'm guessing that ability has a high mana cost so you probably can't do it again. Fomar has also been helpful on conversation and trying to figure things out, nothing weird there.
I don't know with Oldpat? Some posts strike me as... I don't know how to describe it except just saying "Oh its a gut feeling that makes no sense so there's not much point even trying to describe it."
Cap has shown to take a few things a bit too seriously day one and even rementioned a couple jokes seriously day 2. Other than that nothing comes off specifically scummy from cap? I don't read him as town but also not as scum, I'd like to not lynch him for now but I wouldn't be against a vote if it came down to it. For the most part he's been... pretty helpful I think?
Odd is dead and I'm pretty sure AE is definitely Lavos. I really don't know if my barrier reflects, and I'm not sure if Jero would confirm that to me if I asked because at that point it'd be a "Yeah 100% AE is Scum" and it could be game breaking at this point? I'm sure he didn't mention it for a reason if it does?
Uhh, I'll try not to focus on defending myself so much. In my eyes keeping myself alive by giving valid points as to not lynch me because I know I'm town was being helpful. Also, people saying I was scummy for not lynching when I was at an appointment when I made that clear kind of stupidly upset me because that makes me feel like you're dismissing my alibi as a lie and I hate nothing more than being seen as a liar, I think I'm looking too personally into it which is why I got so defensive over my alibi those times? I'll try to stop. I'll also try and scumhunt more... I just feel like I'd cause more problems by trying to scumhunt and then wasting peoples times with like, useless stuff and I don't want to be annoying OR useless? But this was my first attempt to trying to somewhat scumhunt, it at least lists how I feel about everyone.
But I don't know who else I'd be more comfortable voting for? Oldpat's post last night felt to me like he was grasping at straws, *felt like that*, I'm not sure how to explain why it felt that way to me though. The ones I'd vote for are LockeZ, Oldpat or Lizard... but I don't want to vote Lizard on second day since they're new and struggling and I want them to have at least three days worth to play the game. I'd only resort to lynching lizard because I wouldn't know who else to, but I'd be more comfortable voting LockeZ or Oldpat other than that crappy reason for Lizard.
I'm not a fan of mass claiming because I feel it ruins the detective aspect of the game. Oh mass claim and shuffle through scummy claims = ez win, no actual detective gameplay. Or at least that's how it feels, I mean if its like day 5 and we're at our wits end I usually don't mind. But I mean, if that's what we're doing it's fine. Though I am glad my claim may have helped uncover the mysterious on fire AE, assuming it does deflect and not just completely nullify their power.
As for Oldpats thing. Yes, nightkilling odd wasn't he best decision because he was already confirmed town. However I think they were relying on AE's kill on Fomar, if they had nightkilled Fomar and than burned Odd it wouldn't have went through, but then again it would also make it where odd could just heal himself so they went after the healer for the nightkill. I'm sure if they had suspected my barrier they would've played it differently, and getting rid of confirmed town kind of hurts town because it downs a trusted player. I understand their kill, for one thing they got rid of the healer and was hoping for two confirmed kills... Does that make sense? But I don't think it was the most noobish play considering they were relying on that fire which I might've completely just reflected. Haha, see I'm helpful! :D
Oh yeah @Lizard, why did you just vote LockeZ? I mean he's one I'd be down to lynch but the sudden way you lynched him is kind of weird.
Feeling good about AE not swapping town, I still feel bad just blatantly talking aloud about letting them burn to death while they're... alive and burning to death but uh, not much else we can do there.
Demon has been helpful, especially yesterday. He reads town to me, the lynching me for having the same power is valid because I would've thought the same but I think it's confirmed same powers are being used so like, I'm not mad.
Psy seems a bit blunt and somewhat aggressive with how he doesn't mind to lynch on spot once he's made his mind up, but he's willing to listen and stand back and revote. Seems mostly town but I wouldn't be surprised if he flipped smart, passive aggressive scum.
LockeZ is usually very informative and catches the smallest stuff. He's been helpful and pointed out interesting things, like the whole magus being independent wasn't the worst idea, I myself am not independent but there might be one in this game. I don't know if it's a good idea to base people off past mafia games but LockeZ seems to be playing strange from how I remember he plays? He seems to be less willing to talk about EVERYTHING rather than specific stuff. I'm leaning careful scum on him?
I'm not sure about Lizard. They're new and I like to give new players a chance to at least reach day 3 even if I think they're scum. They're either new scum or new town. I do want that lynch for LockeZ explanation.
Cave as always I can't read? But that's just cave. Currently I don't wanna lynch them, I'd see Cave as independent more than anyone else here. I'm not leaning for town or scum for them.
Fomar is definitely town just because of his ability, also I'm guessing that ability has a high mana cost so you probably can't do it again. Fomar has also been helpful on conversation and trying to figure things out, nothing weird there.
I don't know with Oldpat? Some posts strike me as... I don't know how to describe it except just saying "Oh its a gut feeling that makes no sense so there's not much point even trying to describe it."
Cap has shown to take a few things a bit too seriously day one and even rementioned a couple jokes seriously day 2. Other than that nothing comes off specifically scummy from cap? I don't read him as town but also not as scum, I'd like to not lynch him for now but I wouldn't be against a vote if it came down to it. For the most part he's been... pretty helpful I think?
Odd is dead and I'm pretty sure AE is definitely Lavos. I really don't know if my barrier reflects, and I'm not sure if Jero would confirm that to me if I asked because at that point it'd be a "Yeah 100% AE is Scum" and it could be game breaking at this point? I'm sure he didn't mention it for a reason if it does?
Uhh, I'll try not to focus on defending myself so much. In my eyes keeping myself alive by giving valid points as to not lynch me because I know I'm town was being helpful. Also, people saying I was scummy for not lynching when I was at an appointment when I made that clear kind of stupidly upset me because that makes me feel like you're dismissing my alibi as a lie and I hate nothing more than being seen as a liar, I think I'm looking too personally into it which is why I got so defensive over my alibi those times? I'll try to stop. I'll also try and scumhunt more... I just feel like I'd cause more problems by trying to scumhunt and then wasting peoples times with like, useless stuff and I don't want to be annoying OR useless? But this was my first attempt to trying to somewhat scumhunt, it at least lists how I feel about everyone.
Fomar0153
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author=Lizardman_Princess
SEE??? I don't even know what a "power role" is, my guy. ;-;
What's the name of your character?
Ok, so do we know of any roles that can *do a certain thing* that aren't one of the scum or otherwise "bad guy" roles? Say, if a role can like, transport is all to a certain year or make someone immune to something or whatever, something nonharmful, Why don't we just ask people who have been under heavy fire to do something to prove that they're the role they say they are, if they're able to? Why don't we ask people to prove that they are what they're claiming to be by doing something only that role could really do that has an effect in-game?
author=Fomar0153author=Lizardman_PrincessWhat's the name of your character?
SEE??? I don't even know what a "power role" is, my guy. ;-;
You literally just told me that talking any more about it makes me a target.
Also I will say that AE does have a point. "To tie it up." is definitely.... not a reason to lynch. And now that they pointed it out, why would we go to lavos' age? Idk anything about chrono trigger but lavos is bad so their age is bad right? Uhh, also idk which age to go to. Do we have any reasons to go to a specific one? I don't mind bandwagoning towards an era vote cuz idk myself.
Fomar0153
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author=Muffle
Fomar is definitely town just because of his ability, also I'm guessing that ability has a high mana cost so you probably can't do it again. Fomar has also been helpful on conversation and trying to figure things out, nothing weird there.
I'm at 0 MP, Raise costs 2 MP - this time zone was pretty bad for me. I don't think anyone should give me MP today either, there's a real chance it'll be wasted if I'm night killed. If I'm still around tomorrow then maybe we can look into using Raise again. Although we've lost oddFROG (totally his name from now on) who was one of the town MP givers and I don't imagine we have more than a couple of MP givers.
But yeah, it's an understandable suspicion, all in all.
I'm not making any straightforward judgement. I'm still reading through things today.
I'm not making any straightforward judgement. I'm still reading through things today.
Fomar0153
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author=Lizardman_Princess
You literally just told me that talking any more about it makes me a target.
Well I'm Crono the main character of Chrono Trigger, and I can flip people without them dying. No one has a bigger target on their back than me.
You've already said you're a power role, the target is on you already. The name of your character is unlikely to increase the target. Telling us your abilities might if they're strong - so don't do that unless you think it'll benefit town.
author=Muffle
Uhh, also idk which age to go to. Do we have any reasons to go to a specific one? I don't mind bandwagoning towards an era vote cuz idk myself.
We have the following left:
65000000 B.C. - Age of Reptites
12000 B.C. - Age of Magic
600 A.D. - Age of Fiends
1000 A.D. - Age of Peace
1999 A.D. - Age of Lavos
65000000 B.C. is where you get Ayla and there is no magic there. It could be another nothing happens time period. Or maybe something happens with dinosaurs?
12000 B.C. is where Queen Zeal is from (possible scum role) also Schala and Janus
Kid Magus
I could imagine it's the opposite of this time period and we all gain 1 MP but it might aid the mafia in some way.
600 A.D. - Frog was from this era.
1000 A.D. - Age of Peace - Crono, Lucca and Marle are from this era.
1999 A.D. - Final boss location.
It's probably that most times have an element attached and those characters with a matching element get MP.
It's not an understandable suspicion, I was at an appointment getting a shot in my ass. And you saying it's understandable makes it sound ---I'm getting personal again. Nevermind.
It's not an understandable suspicion, I was at an appointment getting a shot in my ass. And you saying it's understandable makes it sound ---I'm getting personal again. Nevermind.
