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After a long hiatus, Chart Weekend comes to you once again, folks! This time, I present you the Heartache Scale of Sanity, featuring a dozen states of mental health, inspired by my experiences in you-know-where. Take it in good humor.

Marrend
Guardian of the Description Thread
21781
I laughed at some of them. So, mission accomplished, I guess!


*Edit: I wonder if Masako really could look Cthulhu in the eye and make him blink? I mean, she has seen some pretty strange things, and not been terribly affected by them...
author=Marrend
I laughed at some of them. So, mission accomplished, I guess!
^^
author=Marrend
*Edit: I wonder if Masako really could look Cthulhu in the eye and make him blink?
A gross exaggeration for the sake of a joke really. In practice, those under Flawless Mind could look at him and would probably end up fine, but wouldn't have it in them to stare down a god.
That was amusing, Dozen. Good thing no one made it to the "Just run" category!
it kinda surprised me seira didn't make it into that category lol, though no surprise she was the furthest to the right
author=flowerthief
Good thing no one made it to the "Just run" category!
The question is... Should we do something about that?>:)(Probably not.)

author=triad2
it kinda surprised me seira didn't make it into that category lol, though no surprise she was the furthest to the right

There was a lot of consideration going on, hehe. But she did get better over time - without meds or psychs at that - so I couldn't dub her 'Completely Lost' with a good conscience.
Marrend
Guardian of the Description Thread
21781
Wait. I have free time on my hands? Time to whip myself back into shape!



I totally went there.
author=triad2
I'm thinking more along the lines of something just to embarrass him not really put him down something just to make him blush and would infuriate Miki.
Edit Something along the lines of how Harley always called the joker pudding pop

I got it! DEATH RAY. All geniuses love themselves some death rays! She would definitely consider it flattering!


Proof.( And that's her fifth one, by the way.)
i went with honey its affectionate its sweet it would embarrass him to no end and would drive miki nuts

ps i should have a small preview ready in a week or two
author=triad2
i went with honey its affectionate its sweet it would embarrass him to no end and would drive miki nuts


Man, couldn't you tell me sooner? And here I was so psyched up I've done something worthwhile! *grumble* GET TO WORK, YOU!(Still no pressure.)
i told you soon as i finished making the changes and i have been working on it when i haven't been working or dling a program i forgot to put in here
marrend i would like your input on this if you wouldn't mind


ID = 26
SHOW RIGHT
Hi honey how are you this wonderful morning?!
ID = 0
Okay. what is the experiment today?
ID = 10
SHOW LEFT
Yoko Tanaka I presume.
ID = 26
Hello cutie sorry I don't know your name, but if you're after my honey I wont give him up without a fight. Unless you are willing to give me something better in exchange.
ID = 10
I'm not here about <player>. I just wanted to let you know...
ID = 26
That you like me well cutie I like you too. Muah
ID = 10
That I am onto you and that I will prove that you are behind all the pranks going on around here.
ID = 0
Is something wrong with you?! She just kissed you, and much more passionately then she did me, and you didn't even stop your sentence.
ID = 26
I don't play pranks cutie, so I am sorry to say, but you are barking up the wrong tree. I hope to see more of you though cutie.
ERASE RIGHT
ID = 10
I know she is lying because there is too much evidence to support that she's the prankster but it seemed like she was telling the truth.
ID = 0
Maybe she is telling the truth after all no one has seen her anywhere near where the pranks were committed.
ID = 10
<player> when did you get here?
ID = 0
I've been here.
ID = 10
Right so tell me what exactly is she?
ID = 0
My best guess is chaos incarnate.
ID = 10
Are you saying she's Eris?
ID = 0
Huh?
ID = 26
Never mind just stay away from her.
Marrend
Guardian of the Description Thread
21781
Not bad, triad! Grammar corrections aside, anyway. Here's my humble suggestion:


ID = 26
SHOW RIGHT
Hi, honey! How are you this wonderful morning?!
ID = 0
(Great. Her again.)
Okay, I guess. What's the experiment today?
ID = 10
SHOW LEFT
Tanaka Yoko, I presume.
# Last name first! That's, like, actually how the Japanese do it. At least, as far as I know, anyway...
ID = 26
Hello, cutie! Sorry, I don't know your name, but, if you're after my honey, I won't give him up without a fight! Unless you are willing to give me something better in exchange?
ID = 10
I'm not here about <player>. I just wanted to let you know...
ID = 26
That you like me? Well, cutie, I like you too. Muah!
ID = 10
UNFRIENDLY
...that I have reason to believe that you are behind the peculiar events that have been happening of late.
ID = 0
Is something wrong with you?! She just kissed you, and much more passionately then she did me, and you didn't even stop your sentence!?
ID = 26
"Peculiar happenings"? I dunno what you're talking about, cutie! I hope to see more of you, though!
ERASE RIGHT
ID = 10
Interesting. There is enough evidence to support the possibility that she is the one involved in these... pranks. However, there was no indication of guilt in her speech pattern.
ID = 0
Maybe she is telling the truth after all? No one has seen her anywhere near where the pranks were committed.
ID = 10
OTHER1
Noted.
ID = 0
That girl, though. She's seriously chaos incarnate.
ID = 10
NEUTRAL
Are you saying she's Eris?
# Reference to the Greek Goddess of Discord. Ever heard of the Judgement of Paris? The Trojan War? The Trojan Horse, perhaps? Well, she had a small hand in that!
ID = 0
Huh?
ID = 10
OTHER1
Never mind.
NEUTRAL
At any rate, I think it would behoove you, <player>, to distance yourself from her.

I'm thinking of doing 2 paths for yoko a clean mode path where she doesn't associate with anyone else and this path where there will be a lot of interactions with others (except seira) and both paths being totally different

To marrend thank you for the input and i will definitely use it but i still want to work in the fact that she was so focused on trying to "read" yoko and that she didn't realize or forgot the player was there


ID = 0

Maybe she is telling the truth after all? No one has seen her anywhere near where the pranks were committed.

ID = 10

OTHER1

Noted, by the way you're still here?

ID = 0

Yeah I've been here the whole time.

ID = 10

I am having a little trouble figuring her out what do you think about her?

ID = 0

My best guess is that she's chaos incarnate.

ID = 10

NEUTRAL

Are you saying she's Eris?

# Reference to the Greek Goddess of Discord. Ever heard of the
Judgement of Paris? The Trojan War? The Trojan Horse, perhaps? Well, she
had a small hand in that!

ID = 0

Huh?

ID = 10

OTHER1

Never mind.

NEUTRAL

At any rate, I think it would behoove you, <player>, to distance yourself from her.

Marrend
Guardian of the Description Thread
21781
I'm still picking myself up from this post, but I've a few ideas for Fran. Allow me to share them.

First and foremost, I want to see what I can do with alternate INTRODUCE stories. I'm not seeing a way to introduce Masako before her "official" introduce event, but Tsubasa might be a different story (no pun intended).

I'm figuring that there aught to be some sequence, or a number of sequences, where Fran's affection can go up/down. As a corollary to this idea, the sequence that may lead to "Fran ending unlocked!" would have a CONDITION = 30 LOVE line. That way, the impact of choosing not to help her would sting her heart more, making the sequence that follows slightly more sense. Though, there is another way to fail with in that sequence outside of simply not willing to help, but I imagine that the probability of it actually happening is insanely low. I should still account for it, though.


I'm now beginning to suspect that I wrote this character at completely the wrong angle. Fran's conundrum, at least in the source material, is that she's trapped in a sequence of events that repeat themselves. So, I think it would be appropriate for the player to see/experience the loop. It would be REPEATABLE, because, well, it's a loop. It would also have a CONDITION = X NOT DONE, so that when she is freed from her loop, the event(s) would stop playing.

More thoughts later.

*Edit:
If I go with the idea of doing events that parallel Fran's original soruce material, I would be inclined to remove Tsubasa from Fran's story. I'm not sensing the interaction they would have with each other. There may be a mystery involved in how to free Fran from her loop, but it's not a mystery that Tsubasa would acknowledge, as it's not a mystery that would manifest in the "real" world. I can see Masako initially involving herself because she's into dream interpretation. I imagine <player> telling her about the dreams. Which, I suppose, means he would have to be on okay footing with Masako before her tells her anything.

Then again, I'm getting the sense that players would free Fran from her loop just so that they would stop getting these stupid dream sequences over and over again, or like complaint. Unless... the player is also trapped? Eh, I don't like that idea!
I got it! So first, we expand on the dream sequences a little(High priority recommended), give them some legitimate backround. Fran should, over time, become from mildly annoyed to at least unsettled, if not outright desperate and panicked, to keep her character realistic. Then Masako and the Player waltz in and save her, for which she is thankful, both does not instantly fall in love with either. Also, I recommend both increasing the Mind requirement as well as giving a chance to try later in case he doesn't have enough.
And so she's saved, all done! Or are they? Not exactly, since Fran just gone out and ate people's homework for months! Surely she at least feel some guilt she needs to get over? And later the player mey convince her to confess... and that throws him off the route, because fuck, he's no magician. As another option along with the last one, the trio gets Tsubasa to convince the teachers just how much of a goddamn idiots they are for not noticing that otherwise diligent studs just so decide to shit on their duties at the same fucking time with an anonymous apology from Fran. This way Tsubasa can stay relevant to the plot. Though revealing her the existence of magic might not be wise; Masako could argue she would just ignore it like she does now or the realization could shake her being.

Also, we just gotta implement the phrase "Ghosts eat homework" in some form, at some point.
i think a better way to go with the dream thing would be to have him talking to takuya or miki about it and masako overhearing them and masako saying something like she's had similar experiences with weird dreams. I haven't played fran since that first release so i may not have all relevant knowledge but why not split the duties since it is obvious that masako would be better with the supernatural stuff have her investigate the missing homework from that angle and have tsubasa investigate it from the angle of gathering intelligence and setting traps to find the person causing it i get the feeling tsubasa would need absolute proof of a ghost before she would accept that as a rational explanation.
Marrend
Guardian of the Description Thread
21781
I was thinking of re-visiting the "Common Event" tech that I used with Joruri. Though, having Fran get more desperate to escape each iteration of the sequence is a viable idea. I would only really want three iterations if I go that route, though.

I was honestly thinking of getting rid of the whole "eat homework" concept. It felt like a weak attempt to get Tsubasa involved to me. Though, if I do get rid of that, what's the trigger? What gets the player into Fran's route to begin with? My initial thoughts involve the barrier between realities weakening. Students (who are not the player character) can still have, at the very least, a vague interaction with Fran in the form of weird dreams.

Am I... going off the deep end here? I dunno. I just have the sense that nothing less than a total re-write of Fran is in order.

As a total aside, I promised to take up Yuu? If I don't have the wherewithal for Fran, what right do I have to take up another person's cause? I dunno. Maybe I'm just thinking this because my confidence is still crushed. Yeah, probably that.
author=Marrend
I was honestly thinking of getting rid of the whole "eat homework" concept.

Now, now, we don't need to go there. We'll justify it, don't worry. I own about half the 3rd Edition D&D books ever released. Surely there's an ethereal or invisible being who can materialize in dreams and eats intellectual property. I know of one that eats your personality, so why not? I'm not even jokin', Hungarian mythology has magical black chickens born out of bodily waste who serve you in exchange for blood, your soul, or food that is not salty(They have their priorities straight though, saltless food is the most important part). Everything is possible.

author=Marrend
As a total aside, I promised to take up Yuu? If I don't have the wherewithal for Fran, what right do I have to take up another person's cause? I dunno. Maybe I'm just thinking this because my confidence is still crushed. Yeah, probably that.

Note to self: Pointing out mistakes of avoidant people will crush their confidence.

...

Note 2: Should think for a second so to realize the obvious. Also, learn to be nicer to others, Dozen. Not cool.
i find it's sometimes easier to work on two at the same time then it is only focusing on one marrend it seems to me you need a eureka moment you are thinking in circles and over analyzing everything about fran step back and look at the whole picture i'm sure the best solution will come to you