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This page is for discussion of the artistic side of content creation, such as writing and characterization, as well as for the posting of incomplete content for the purpose of receiving feedback from each other.

Feel free to discuss characters and stories you are working on.
The old Custom Content thread can be found here. The first archived artistic discussion thread can be found here.

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Hey I'm new to content creation and for some reason i cant play my story in clean mode, and I don't have any other characters in the story
author=jacobfish
Hey I'm new to content creation and for some reason i cant play my story in clean mode, and I don't have any other characters in the story
Did your first story include an INTRODUCE = (ID #)? What are the conditions of the story you want to play? There are a couple of things that prevent a story from being played:

1. A character in the story was not introduced. Jumping to stories and branches bypasses this.
2. The conditions have not been met.
3. You have already seen a story with a character that day, preventing other stories involving them from being seen.
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author=jacobfish
Hey, I'm new to content creation, and, for some reason, I can't play my story in Clean Mode? I don't have any other characters in the story!

To be fair (and honest), Clean Mode doesn't work. Since the most recent update (this blog), I've not gotten any of my custom characters that could use Clean Mode (Which boils down to "not Joruri".) to get past their INTRODUCE events. Until this is fixed, you have to keep Clean Mode disabled.

As to when it will get fixed, man, I don't even know. I've looked at the code, and have gone "Darigaaz, where do I even start?", I'm not sure if Dozen wants to mess with it, and flowerthief has gone off the face of the universe (until proven otherwise).
author=Marrend
author=jacobfish
Hey, I'm new to content creation, and, for some reason, I can't play my story in Clean Mode? I don't have any other characters in the story!
To be fair (and honest), Clean Mode doesn't work. Since the most recent update (this blog), I've not gotten any of my custom characters that could use Clean Mode (Which boils down to "not Joruri".) to get past their INTRODUCE events. Until this is fixed, you have to keep Clean Mode disabled.

As to when it will get fixed, man, I don't even know. I've looked at the code, and have gone "Darigaaz, where do I even start?", I'm not sure if Dozen wants to mess with it, and flowerthief has gone off the face of the universe (until proven otherwise).

Ok thanks for the info I just wasn't sure if i was doing something wrong.
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Just thought I should share this tidbit:

author=Offical Site comments
SparkleFox:
Okay, so I have after some searching come across some male tachie templates (or what exactly their are called), and this video has a link to a pretty good one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53WMQK0XQ1E

Maybe you would consider this one into your "Links"-page?


Marrend:
@Sparklefox: That looked pretty promising! I'm going to test-drive it soon-ish before making any official recommendations like that. Also, I have no idea if I have that kind of access.





I've now taken a very brief look at that Male tachie generator, and, I'm liking the possibilities so far. I might not be able to understand the Japanese, but, with a bit of fiddling, I believe I can ultimately figure it out. Also, if worse comes to worse, I think I saw a few pre-made PSDs in that ZIP file.

author=Marrend
To be fair (and honest), Clean Mode doesn't work. Since the most recent update (this blog), I've not gotten any of my custom characters that could use Clean Mode (Which boils down to "not Joruri".) to get past their INTRODUCE events. Until this is fixed, you have to keep Clean Mode disabled.

As to when it will get fixed, man, I don't even know. I've looked at the code, and have gone "Darigaaz, where do I even start?", I'm not sure if Dozen wants to mess with it, and flowerthief has gone off the face of the universe (until proven otherwise).


I'm here :)
I was not aware that Clean Mode has been broken all this time! The problem will be fixed in the next release.
(The same bug that causes stories not to trigger for characters that have been properly introduced should be causing stories to incorrectly trigger for characters that have not yet been properly introduced. Am I right? At any rate I've gone and fixed the bug)
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The legend lives!

More serious post: I swear I mentioned it earlier. Like, a lot earlier. Eh, don't worry. I'm just glad to see that you've not fallen off the edge of the universe.
Wah! Falcon got ahead of me again D:
The new clothes are looking awesome, funny how the stripe makes the skirt look brand new *-*

author=Marrend
Just thought I should share this tidbit:

--Offical Site comments--



Messed around with it ^^

It fitted better than I expected regarding to style and shading levels, however, there's a minor recurring problem...
The Medium_build shows a fair about of the girl legs, you're able to fully see even the medium skirts, it's not a problem alone, but when you try to import something it always seems that the imported person is a couple of steps closer to you which is kinda weird.

Anyhow here's Takuya (or at least was supposed to be him) and Eliza ^^



Ps. Found quite a buzz about the program used and stuff, I'll try to investingate and scout for more useful stuff, don't get any hopes up though. As if anyone would. :p
author=Kevincalanor
Anyhow here's Takuya (or at least was supposed to be him) and Eliza ^^


I don't believe Takuya would scowl so coldly, even if he's upset. Also his face is more round, not close to be so hawklike.
author=Dozen
author=Kevincalanor
Anyhow here's Takuya (or at least was supposed to be him) and Eliza ^^

I don't believe Takuya would scowl so coldly, even if he's upset. Also his face is more round, not close to be so hawklike.

Teheh, my bad, I'm quite used to meanie faces on chars xD

However... about the position, is that allright?

ps. Couldn't find anything else to download beside one or two trials of other versions. Nothing really useful. :\
It's cool to see Takuya now but I do see your 'two steps forward' problem. It's an image perspective issue. A fix would be to add as much to his legs as the girl beside him, allowing you to see the other hand completely. (Eliza? Is she new? I didn't find her in the Tachie or playthru yet...) The problem to that is the top of his head being cut off, and the image program you are using may not allow for that anyway. If you shrunk him down, his head would be smaller than the girl's. It's all a bit of an optical illusion. Of course, if it is consistent with the other males in the game, then it would just be one of those strange game things and not really a big deal (to me).

I'm not suggesting to make a Tachie for Ferdinand or make him visible, since he is our POV, but, what do you think he looks like? I imagine a larger boy, not fat, but tall (his apparent nickname is 'big guy' after all), with almost permanent messy brown hair. Am I far off? (I'm planning some manga pages, is why.)

Also, did you know you've in TV Tropes?
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Eliza hasn't been officially released in any capacity since... heck, when was it? I'm sure I don't have a back-up for the original Wolkpack anymore. Anyway, I think there was a post that had a sketch of <player> in it. Was it from BDFalcon, or was it from Kevincalanor? I forget, and I'm not up to finding the post.

Also, I knew about the TV Tropes page, and the ditty they did on some of the available custom characters. The lack of Mitsuya Masako surprises me, considering she was the first one made.
author=pegaso
It's cool to see Takuya now but I do see your 'two steps forward' problem. It's an image perspective issue. A fix would be to add as much to his legs as the girl beside him, allowing you to see the other hand completely. (Eliza? Is she new? I didn't find her in the Tachie or playthru yet...) The problem to that is the top of his head being cut off, and the image program you are using may not allow for that anyway. If you shrunk him down, his head would be smaller than the girl's. It's all a bit of an optical illusion. Of course, if it is consistent with the other males in the game, then it would just be one of those strange game things and not really a big deal (to me).

I'm not suggesting to make a Tachie for Ferdinand or make him visible, since he is our POV, but, what do you think he looks like? I imagine a larger boy, not fat, but tall (his apparent nickname is 'big guy' after all), with almost permanent messy brown hair. Am I far off? (I'm planning some manga pages, is why.)

That was exactly what I was wondering about, yup, all that. x3
So shrink it is ^^
Not sure of how long I'll take to deliver some results at the pace I'm now :p

Yup, I posted that sketch of <player> ago (It's just a outline), I just followed the avatar you have in game on the dice phase.
About the Height, I think that he would be kinda average, taller than the girls but slightly smaller than Takuya.

Eliza Yamisaki is currently in beta version because her developer have weirdo motivation shortages on the last steps, he'll get a surge eventually and finish it up. .-.
On the good side the route is pratically complete (few tweaks and custom ending predicted for the release ver.) There's a DL link on the first page of this thread. ^^


Edit: Decided don't ask why, to dig deeper into Height stuff, and ended coming up with this:

(Oh crap, since when Eliza got that big? She was supposed to have 152cm .-.)

- 1,5 adds the 1/3 of the char that it's outside the screen (below the imaginary 2,66666... mark)
- I came up with this constant (4,1625) considering Riho's height as 156cm, same as Hirasawa Yui from K-ON!
- Screen border (480px) equals to 172,97cm.
author=Kevincalanor
Edit: Decided don't ask why, to dig deeper into Height stuff, and ended coming up with this:
-image-

Sooo... I've been wondering for a while now, but which character under "Finished content" is the one on the far right in the hidden picture above? It's not incredibly clear to me which character is being featured by the screenshots on that page. ^.^; Alternately, I could just research a little, but you know...
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The one on the far right? I believe that would be...

author=ID listing
ID 15 = Watanabe Aoi {Nekochi, "Junko"}


Though, to be honest, I didn't recognize Noriko (between Masako and Ruri).
author=Kevincalanor
Yup, I posted that sketch of <player> ago (It's just a outline), I just followed the avatar you have in game on the dice phase.
About the Height, I think that he would be kinda average, taller than the girls but slightly smaller than Takuya.

Eliza Yamisaki is currently in beta version because her developer have weirdo motivation shortages on the last steps, he'll get a surge eventually and finish it up. .-.
On the good side the route is pratically complete (few tweaks and custom ending predicted for the release ver.) There's a DL link on the first page of this thread. ^^


Edit: Decided don't ask why, to dig deeper into Height stuff, and ended coming up with this:

(Oh crap, since when Eliza got that big? She was supposed to have 152cm .-.)

- 1,5 adds the 1/3 of the char that it's outside the screen (below the imaginary 2,66666... mark)
- I came up with this constant (4,1625) considering Riho's height as 156cm, same as Hirasawa Yui from K-ON!
- Screen border (480px) equals to 172,97cm.


The height chart is very helpful, and thanks for re-posting your image of 'guy'. (It's clear I will have to step up my game here ^^;;) I went with the old classic 'heads tall' method for my first character sheet for height management. Ferdinand is 6 heads, I set Tasuya at 5 1/2 (considering he refers to Ferdinand as 'big guy' which would denote he being slightly smaller) and set Shihoko at 5 1/2 as well, and more developed than the other girls. At 5 heads tall are Miki and Keika, and 4 1/2 for Akari (which should be taller at 5 heads now that I look at it.)

I will set up some space on Smackjeeves for it and let you know when I have some stuff ready to look at. I have my previous graphic novel, Sync, here as well. A passable first cover is sketched out, with Ferd being chased by the sicknesses down the gameboard, an angry SD of Miki and a giggling SD of Keika in the background. Heartache 101 #1, The Challenge!
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Hey, pegaso, I'm thinking something like that would be more appropriate as a media submission rather than something buried in the custom content threads. I dunno. I guess it's ultimately your call.

*Edit: If you do go the media submission route, I'd say it could be construed as "fan art", but, "miscellaneous" might be an appropriate category too.
author=Marrend
Hey, pegaso, I'm thinking something like that would be more appropriate as a media submission rather than something buried in the custom content threads. I dunno. I guess it's ultimately your call.

*Edit: If you do go the media submission route, I'd say it could be construed as "fan art", but, "miscellaneous" might be an appropriate category too.


Sounds good, I will keep it in mind when the time arrives. And, yes, it is fan art ultimately, an act of love. I will make sure that every page has a link to the game's home page, as well, and writing credit where credit is due.

Nathan
-who, when thinking on what Ferdinand's family name should be, found Onamae, Japanese for 'name', and thought it strangely appropriate...
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Darigaaz, "Onamae Ferdinand" sounds terrible. "Onamae Kazuhiko", however, sounds slightly more legitimate.
author=Marrend
Darigaaz, "Onamae Ferdinand" sounds terrible. "Onamae Kazuhiko", however, sounds slightly more legitimate.

Lol, that's quite direct :p
However, Onamae Kazuhiko indeed sounds better, Ferdinand stand out too much interchange student or something alike, also some new chars currently use <player>'s old name "Ferdinand as a gag now. ^^

ps. I keep stoping and staring/reading Falcon's avatars, guess I'll end up copying that too eventually. :p

Edit: Finally got myself back to work on the finishing touches, I'll be taking the beta and replacing it with the updates, because that folder name change and stuff will likely cause more bugs, and I already have enough of them.
I'll be working on Takuya tachies along, there's a small probability to Yami come with him.

When(if) I get that set up, I'll make a separate file with only him for developers. Also I was thinking in go on ahead define names/appearances for the long known "jealous girls of 1A. They don't play a role on Eliza route though.