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This will be updated the more battle sprites are completed.


Pronunciation Guide (Subject to Change):
This follows a similar key to the Official Name Pronunciation Guide used over at Smogon, but for easy reference:
PRONUNCIATION KEY:
All caps = emphasis
Separated by syllable
A lone vowel means pronounce its short-sound (ex, “i” means like in “it” instead of like “pie”)
Two like-vowels together means the long sound (ex, “ee” means like in “leaf” instead of “meh”)
The difference between G and J: if I put a G, it’s like “gray”; if I put a J, it’s like “jam”


RMNmons
Toribush = TOR – ee – bush
Javelbush = JAV – uhl – bush
Joubush = JOW – bush
Flaregon = FLAIR - gon
Seargon = SEER - gon
Dragablo = drag – AH -blow
Fairimp = FAIR - imp
Siremp = SAHY (like “sigh”) - rimp
Serempity = suh – REMP – I -tee
Atmana = at – MAN - ah
Hydroka = hi-DROH-kuh
Flamesoul = FLEYM (like “flame”)-sohl
Junipervan = joo – nuh – PERV - an
Lectrei = LECK-trey
Gustling = GUHST-ling
Swantweet = SWON-tweet
Miceberg = MAHYS (“ahys” makes an “ice” sound, or in this case, “mice”)-burg
Volice = VOHL-ahys (see above)
Curvri = KUR-vree
Curveat = KUR-vee-aht (weren’t expecting this one, were you?)
Basherp = ba - SHURP
Bassacre = BAS – uh - kur
Quober = KWOH - bur
Quodash = KWOH-dash
Zapasp = ZAP-asp
Venohm = VEN – ohm (It’s seriously like “venom”)
Mycelite = MAHY-see-lahyt
Alampita= ah-lam-PEE-tah
Sespirit (Female)= SEES-pir-it
Sespirita = sees-PIR-it-ah
Darspirita = dars-PIR-it-ah
Sespirit (Male) = …
Sespirito = sees-PIR-it-oh
Claspirito = klahs-PIR-it-oh
Phim = fim (easy…)
Meryphim = MAYR-ee-fim
Marubim = mayr (like "mare")-UH-bim
Chibiwawa = chee-bee-WA-wa
Chi-Nun = chee-NUHN
Chi-Yim = chee-YEEM
Digloch = DIG-lock
Excaloch = EKS-kuh-lock
Tomamer = tuh-MEYM-er
Tomamight = tuh-MEY-mahyt
Flauret = FLAWR-et
Flaurum = FLAWR-uhm
Skrewpent = SKROO-pent
Seradder = ser-AD-er
Demine = DEE-mahyn (like “mine”)
Diablode = dee-AH-blohd
Eelinkk = EEL - ingk
Zaorrior= ZOR-ee-er
Limbatent =lim-BAT-nt
Pozitron =POZ-i-tron
Bulvine = BOOL-vahyn
Biseed = BI-seed (easy)
Catlyx = CAT-licks
Troxin = TROCKS-in
Zhilong = ZAHY-long
Codjestic = kod-JEST-ick
Lushung = luhsh-UHNG
Nasorsal = nah-SOORS-el
Heatha = HEH(like “eh”)-thuh
Heatherain = HETH-er-eyn (think “rain” or “pain”)
Heaven = HEV-uhn (real complicated this one was…)
Afropup = AF-roh-puhp
Afrorunt = AF-roh-ruhnt
Funkound = FUHNK-ownd (like “pound”)
Fuzard = FYOO-zerd
Echeel =eh-KEEL
Ascape = ah-SKEYP
Irritormen = ir-i-TOR-men
Tikny = TEEK-nee
Tikurai = TEE-kur-rahy
Joban = jo-BAN
Kelaylee = kuh-LEY-lee
Shredax = SHRED-aks
Plugla = PLUHG-lah
Totemvolt = TOH-tuhm-vohlt
Inkling = EENGK-leeng
Loblotomy = luh-BLAHT-uh-mee
Bologoo = bohl-AH-goo
Beluga = buhl-OO-guh
Bomara = boh-MAR-uh
Boganna = boh-GAHN-uh
Trunklift = TRUHNK-lift
Libraphant = LEE-bruh-fuhnt
Pyramystic = pir (like “peer”)-uh-MIS-tik
Levitomb = LEV-i-toom
Caltrap = KAHL-trap
Tricalp = TRAHY-kahlp
Akashic = uh-KAH-sheek
Anpsi = AN-sahy (as in “sigh”)
Atavism = AHT-uh-vis-im
Bundulate = BUHN-juh-leyt
Hyppy = HIP-ee
Hypster = HIP-ster
Crabang = kra-BANG
Crabammer = kra-BAM-er
Borc = BORK (insert Swedish Chef joke here)
Borabol = BOR-ah-bul
Gnomkin = NOHM-kin
Dwarkin = DWAWR (just like “dwarf”)-kin
Chellrit = KEEL-rit
Torgheist = TAWR-geyst
Tornment = TAWRN-ment
Ellefan = EL-fan
Acaricide = ak-KAR-i-side
Acylurea =AK-loor-ee-uh
Acarphogus = ak-KAR-foh-gus
Meterain = MEE-tur-ayn
Meterstorm = MEE-tur-stawrm
Maelstorm = MEYL-stawrm
Spiritatue = spir-i-TACH-oo
Megamouth = MEG-uh-mouth
Moryo = MOHR-yoh
Myobu = MYOH-boo
Mantennae = man-TEN-uh
Littlefoot = LIT-uhl-foo t
Bigfoot = BIG-foo t
Nachash = nah-CHAWSH
Ddraig = DRAG
Spitfire = SPIT-fahyuhr
Tonequus = tohn-EH-kwes (similar to “quest” without the “t”)
Equistro = eh-KWES-troh
Ephemin = eh-FEE-min
Ephemeron = eh-FEE-mer-on
Astragon = AS-truh-gon
Mosrock = MAWS-rok
Vegetrol = VEJ-eh-trol
Plantossus = plan-TAHS-us
Dirangers = der-ANG-ers
Batnic = BAT-nik
Raicicle = RAHY-sik-kul
Gyisab = GEE-sahb
Ysuta = YEES-oo-tuh
Muspyg = mus-PEEG
Bitron = BI-trawn
Superbtron = soo-PERB-trawn
Leninja = lee-NEEN-juh
Killerbeat = kil-ER-beet
Vulkanylos = vol-KAN-i-lohs
Pupictya = pew-PIK-tyuh
Demidictya = dem-i-DIK-tyuh
Ripodictya = ree-poh-DIK-tyuh
Byakestial = byah(try to say it as one syllable)-KES-tee-uhl
Suzaestial = soo-ZAYS-tee-uhl
Genbestial = gen (with a “G” like in “Gary”, as oppose to a “j” sound)-BES-tee-uhl
Atardis = ah-TAR-dis
Carvora = car-VAWR-uh
Antipode = AN-ti-pohd

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Even the most human-like pokemon tend to have exaggerated animalistic or fantastic traits, though. I think it's Meryphim's eyes that weird me out in particular -- no pokemon has eyes that human-like, not even gardevoir. It makes them look like they're just a human in a dress rather than an animal or mythological creature.
CashmereCat
Self-proclaimed Puzzle Snob
11638
author=Ratty524
About time I got this up.

Ratty524
The 524 is for 524 Stone Crabs
12986
author=argh
Even the most human-like pokemon tend to have exaggerated animalistic or fantastic traits, though. I think it's Meryphim's eyes that weird me out in particular -- no pokemon has eyes that human-like, not even gardevoir. It makes them look like they're just a human in a dress rather than an animal or mythological creature.


Her eyes are a similar shape to Meloetta's. I think it's fine. :P
halibabica
RMN's Official Reviewmonger
16948
Personally, I think it's the color of Meryphim's skin that makes it so human. Even Meloetta there is white as a sheet. What tends to separate humanoid Pokémon from normal humans is their more fantastic traits. As it is currently, Meryphim could pass as a cosplayer with a kitty face.
Ratty524
The 524 is for 524 Stone Crabs
12986
author=halibabica
Personally, I think it's the color of Meryphim's skin that makes it so human. Even Meloetta there is white as a sheet. What tends to separate humanoid Pokémon from normal humans is their more fantastic traits. As it is currently, Meryphim could pass as a cosplayer with a kitty face.

It's so pink, though, and it doesn't really have the same kind of physical definitions as a human being. Another thing to consider is that the human trainers that appear in the game are generally designed differently from Pokemon:

Note the less defined eyes, presence of noses in some, and slight muscle/joint definition in the human characters compared to the humanoid Pokemon. In this regard, I don't think there would be an issue in distinguishing the two.
halibabica
RMN's Official Reviewmonger
16948
Doesn't matter how pink it is; pink is a color that's recognizable for cartoon humans. I stand by my claim.
Yeah, the skin color is a bit borderline. At a glance, it could still look like a human with a tan. Even just darkening it a few shades might help.

author=Ratty524

Her eyes are a similar shape to Meloetta's. I think it's fine. :P

No, Meloetta's eyes are far larger and are colored differently. On Meloetta's sprite, her eyes take up about half her face and are an exaggerated, psychedelic color. They also have white pupils, which is a very striking and unusual trait.

I think the issue with Meryphim might be a combination of two things -- it has humanlike eyes and very humanlike body proportions. Pokemon usually only have one or the other; alakazam, for instance, have fairly humanlike eyes but very nonhuman bodies, while gardevoir have humanlike (although still distorted) bodies but creepy, animal-like eyes. (It also seems logical to make Meryphim's eyes look really special and unique, since they're only revealed in the final form. That's a good way to build some mystery and have a neat reveal -- though uncannily human-like eyes could still do that.) And Meloetta there has a very distorted body, particularly her hands. Some more cartoonish flourishes (either continuing the large and muscular look of Marubim or exaggerating the shift to make Meryphim even more grotesquely thin) could go a long way here, I think. There's also the hair... Again, gardevoir and Meloetta have green hair, which marks them as nonhuman, while golden hair is a normal human trait. I presume you were going for that look intentionally, but it might be a good idea to tweak it -- some kind of odd hairstyle like with gardevoir, or an exaggerated blonde color that's impossible in humans, maybe. That would make her larger than life -- a caricature of humanity rather than something that could pass for human, which would be fitting for a fairy, no?

Basically, I think Meryphim goes too far past the uncanny valley and just lands in "normal" territory.
Ratty524
The 524 is for 524 Stone Crabs
12986
I think the "pupils" you are talking about are just cartoony highlights, but regardless, I am kind of starting to understand your reasoning. For this instance, I think maybe a small tweak would do wonders here.

Maybe changing the design of her hands to resemble Phim a little better might suffice? Meryphim is one of two possible evolutions for Phim, by the way, depending on Phim's stats; It evolves into Marubim if it's attack is higher than its special attack, and it evolves into Meryphim if it's special attack is higher or the same. I think it would better convey that Meryphim isn't as physically strong as Marubim to maybe have less detailed hands, just as a start.

As far as coloration is concerned, it was taken directly from the original request by the Pokemon's creator, matthewac, so there wasn't much leeway there. Your suggestion on maybe over-exaggerating the blond color isn't a bad option, though I wouldn't know how you'd do it here.


Isolated, Meryphim may look human but compared to actual pokemon trainers she looks totally different. Her facial features are huge, she has no feet and there are wings on her back.

if you're so worried about colors then maybe with matthewac's permission we could make her shiny the default??
halibabica
RMN's Official Reviewmonger
16948
from Miracle
Meryphim may look human but compared to actual pokemon trainers she looks totally different.
It doesn't matter what you compare it to in-game, it still comes across as too close to human. This is the whole reason Jynx is purple.

from argh
Basically, I think Meryphim goes too far past the uncanny valley and just lands in "normal" territory.
^ 'nuff said.

Incidentally, that shiny version does look much less human. Perhaps we could persuade him to an alternate coloration for the standard one.
author=Miracle
if you're so worried about colors then maybe with matthewac's permission we could make her shiny the default??

Hm, that could work. The skin and eye colors do look much more distinctively alien. (Darkening the colors might be more effective, however -- she seems to have slightly lighter colors than Marubim, but that could just be my imagination.) I think the hairstyle still looks a bit too normal, though. Come to think of it, if Meryphim is an alternate evolution, it might be a better idea to keep the blinding hair motif and hide her eyes entirely. Let the viewers' imagination do the work for you, yeah? Eyeless things are inherently uncanny-valleyish too.

...While we're at it, the Afropup line looks kiiinda racist. Not entirely sure what you were going for there.
@ argh : I see where you're going but we have to respect the original design too. If we change too much then it isn't true to the creator's intentions and defeats the purpose of a community project. There are some official pokemon designs that I am not fond of (mr mime *cringe*) but I accept them as canon nonetheless. Personally I like Meryphims design and I think the best solution is to compromise by tweaking the colors and not the body.
Oh, my apologies, I didn't know how the whole community design thing worked. Never mind, then. It's not a dealbreaker or anything, it just jarred me a little when I glanced across it.
Seiromem
I would have more makerscore If I did things.
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author=argh
...While we're at it, the Afropup line looks kiiinda racist.


I hope you know the difference between a stereotype and racism.
Those two things are not mutually exclusive. There's a reason why blackface is generally considered racist.
Seiromem
I would have more makerscore If I did things.
6375
author=argh
Those two things are not mutually exclusive.


Never said they were.

author=argh
There's a reason why blackface is generally considered racist.


Yeah, because it's degrading and making fun of a race through a comedy routine, usually using the negative stereotype that black people are stupid and slow.

Afropup looking like a black, groovy disco god is not negative. There is no hate.
That's what defines racism. Hate.

Ratty524
The 524 is for 524 Stone Crabs
12986
author=argh
...While we're at it, the Afropup line looks kiiinda racist. Not entirely sure what you were going for there.

With all due respect, I think you are kind of jumping the gun on this one, unless there is something disparaging about Aftrican-Americans with afros and peace symbols that I'm missing?

With this particular design, I did stray a bit from the original concept (due to being derivative of another Fakemon), so it does contain a bit of my own ideas, but those ideas had no motive of demonstrating racial inferiority, but rather it was motivated by both the original creator's (Nerdybastard) idea for "the grooviest Pokemon of the region" and popular disco icons that I enjoy, including Funkadelic, Bootsy Collins and the likes. It was made as a homage, not a stereotype.

I also fail to see how it is in the same league as blackface (unless you are interpreting the green beard for being lips. If so, then I'll DEFINITELY get around to changing that), because at least in my eyes, I see no interpretation of ridicule towards African-Americans in this, and this is coming from a guy who is also aware of how the "gangsta'" and "thug" trends are pretty much Blackface's successor. I portrayed neither with his design, and the interpretation that it is a stereotype is just that I think: an interpretation.
iddalai
RPG Maker 2k/2k3 for life, baby!!
1194
A representation of physical features belonging to a specific race is not racism.
I'm not really married to the Phim line's coloring, if you guys need to you can change it.
Ratty524
The 524 is for 524 Stone Crabs
12986
author=matthewac95
I'm not really married to the Phim line's coloring, if you guys need to you can change it.

I'm not married to changing it in the first place.

By the way, welcome back! :D