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author=Render
About the vending machine part--I only added it there because it's a real thing that's actually pretty common in Japan.


Shortened note: The used panties vending machines are illegal and disgusting to anyone with a sense of basic right and wrong. Those who suffered enough brain damage to doubt this can be anything but gross and against the law, in a developed country, in the 21th century, read the hidden text below. Also see a doctor. This isn't an insult, and it's dead serious. Any portrayal of them in Heartache are required to be negative henceforward. The scene may be funny, but the machine should not. It's a rule, not a suggestion. Overseer off.

Poppin' your bubble there, they actually are NOT. Few were made compared to the population and size of Japan, and they were outlawed with lightning speed before this century on the grounds of *ghasp* being staggeringly sexist(Oh SNAP, and not your underwear it doesn't). That - one would think crucial - part is forgone in articles, news and the ever oh-so-reliable gossip for the sake of 'JAPAN IS WACKY WUBLUBLBUBLU' and such holy concepts.

In fact, should the player, and especially like, any girl from Heartache encounter it, I don't think any of them would neglect reporting it to the authorities. This is a thing that even Kyouki would be disgusted by. It's objectification so blatant the ass-backwards Japanese government could see it. That shouldn't need to be spelled out for anybody.

There are only copies of them in sex shops now, and they sell new panties, not worn ones, or alternatively found in just as illegal as all fuck fetish clubs run by the yakuza that the government can't touch. People do see them, but only in their new, tame role, or in a place they really shouldn't be.

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author=pegaso
This was my first VN, I have been wanting to play one for awhile. I feel like this could have easily been made into an anime or manga series, and really felt it the more characters I added to the mix.

It would be a bit dishonest to call it just a VN. The Dating Sim elements give Heartache an innovative flair, but it makes it stand apart from the rest all the same.
author=pegaso
Question: Do we get more than one ending for each girl?

Not as such. The system makes it possible, but none of the built-in content implemented more than one.

We're glad you liked it so~^^! Hope to live up to your expectations!:3

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author=Kevincalanor
Anyhow here's Takuya (or at least was supposed to be him) and Eliza ^^


I don't believe Takuya would scowl so coldly, even if he's upset. Also his face is more round, not close to be so hawklike.

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author=ahmed_great2005
I am gonna assume, this has top 5 worth of downloads now? Awesome!

Has for 'long as I can remember!^^ In the top hundred most popular dating sims, too. Last time I checked it was 20-somethingth. Enjoy:3

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author=Kuronekox
I told them you guys were being defensive in that 'what are you thinking now' thread. xD

I guess that made some of the mods and admins check this thread for some reason whenever I knew you guys were being sorta silly.

Defensive? My post in the last page was my defensive disposition? You either read it totally wrong or I'm the worst person ever. (I'm the worst person ever)

Well in the end you pointed out it wasn't really a criticism as much as your love for tsunderes, so, no harm done. Misunderstanding on my part. Enjoy the, whatever you are doing:3

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Also what are all these famous people doing here aaaah not without my makeup Overseer off>.<*hides*

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Now, now. There is plenty to go around with our two tsunderes respective personalities.
Riho in particular stands out as a subversion and deconstruction of the archetypical working woman who has no time to care for relationships. The tired cliche version of this story would be a struggle with society as she tries to live up to her life choices with quite a lot casually sexist undertones that suggest working-oriented females can't maintain a normal life.
In her case, it's fun to watch as it gradually turns out she hates working herself to death, isn't actually all that smart, and only tries to thrive in areas she has no talent in to live up to imagined expectations of her parents.

In the end her plan undermines itself entirely; Shihoko is popular because she is social and makes good use of what little she knows, while Riho either mimics her qualities without understanding the reasons behind her success, or rejects her good qualities and tries to one-up her in another area she can't become good at, as she didn't pick one she can enjoy. And it backfires on her, because of course it does. You can't master a skill you aren't good at and have no passion for. The very least, you should be mildly interested to stand out, which for her was the whole point.
So, she isn't failing until the player helps her out due to being a girl. She fails due to being kind of a dummy.

It's all realistic enough in my opinion. That's how the world works more often than not. Kicks the extreme optimism of the American(Japanese?) dream right in the balls.

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author=Kuronekox
We need a well written tsundere character, though.

EXCUSE ME.



Tact is a thing!

Okay, let me lay out some basics.

Every time you give negative feedback and you don't explain your point so we can't learn from it...

Kyouki makes this face.



This.
This is what you've done.
For shame.

Did you want this? Did you want this? I'm guessing you didn't.
Please explain what's wrong with our tsunderes now. So we can rewrite them. Instead of just saying so. 'K?

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author=Kuronekox
There should be a tsundere girl. :P

There are two of them... And that's only the base material.

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author=Kuronekox
10/10 idea

I like the idea and am gonna download it now and give it a shot.


^^