JOSEPHSERAPH'S PROFILE

TBH while Paper Maker is definitely cute and charming, and I won't doubt it's stronger than Smile Game Builder... I feel like it's highly likely it'll be easier to make something practical with MV3D. That being said, I do want to check it out! It looks really neat. I'm dying to see their reinterpretation and re-implementation of RPG Maker staples. I'm sure it won't be entirely comprised of steps backwards like some other indie RPG Makers

The cool thing for us veterans in this announcement is that they've mentioned several updates.

The animation editor for one appears to have been overhauled.

Events seem to have improved functionality, and I doubt they'd announce that just to have one extra command.

Touchfuzzy confirmed that not only there's a "layer mode" you can toggle for the map editor, but there's also an "event palette" you can use to easily access events on a given map.

Following on that, there seems to be some sort of solution to mass copying events. If they're real good, then that'll be integrated with events and we'll have an "eventset" of sorts.

Plugins appear to have been "vastly improved" from MV. That probably means plugins will be given more power to generate interactables and tools within the editor. (probably within the Plugin menu, still.)

JavaScript had 5 years of updates and the environment is greatly different. I think this update will open up a wealth of possibilities for programmers just because of that. Look at what Dread-chan has achieved by integrating Babylon.js into MV, for example.

This update may seem barebones, but it gave us a map of what we can expect from the updates to come. I'm excited. Also, the new charsets look so much better!
I'm not a fan of the tiles, though. Everyone's saying they look "crisper" and "more pixelated" and I just think the shading is worse.

author=Rue669

author=visitorsfromdreams
On a side note, imagine loading up the switch e-shop and seeing the same hundreds of identical-looking games and game screenshots like you do with RPGM on Steam. No thanks...

Totally agree.

I think like JosephSeraph says, they'll probably double down on their mobile porting capabilities, which may be nice. I'd hop on that band-wagon.

TBH RM Asset Flip bloat on Switch is highly unlikely; Nintendo is still pickier than steam (lol) when it comes to accepting indie titles. I mean, there's at least some form of curation... I think mobile will be the focus, but the environment isn't really that different at this point, especially with PlayStation 5 nearing the horizon.


This is a NDS running a javascript game through its browser. AFAIK MV uses a custom build of Google Chrome to run on? Or something of the like.


PS4 also works for this. So, while even porting from scratch would be sort of hard, it is still WAY easier, today, without Kadokawa support at all, to run MV games on consoles than it is to run Ace. So, yeah, I think some progress toward console support is collateral to improving mobile compatibility. And I find it hard to believe they would pass up the opportunity if cheap enough to make.

RMflip bloating won't be an issue on any storefront that has any sort of curation.

I actually think 3D can be tremendously cheaper to create assets for, especially for low poly. Sure, making the first model is more laborious, but once it's done, it works for all 8 -- or all 360 -- directions. Adding bones and animating (if you're not using a free animation library like Adobe Mixamo...) is can be very laborious... But then you can fit that same animation into every single NPC in the game. Editing assets is easier and cheaper. Making tilesets is less demanding of technical knowledge to look good, you make a chair and you don't have redraw if you want it rotated or knocked down... You want to make a map feel different you just change the lighting and color source, etc.

I'm not saying it IS easier or cheaper than 2D, but it CAN be. Especially for larger projects which give you more room to milk your initial assets. And it doesn't look cheap.

So yeah, I'd recommend giving it a thought really! But the smaller the scope, the more 2D wins over 3D imo.

And Unity integration would be awesome! It's not entirely out of the realm of possibility since afaik JavaScript is one of the two languages used to program in Unity. BUT if it happens I expect it to be buggy as hell and be a nightmare for the devs to support, were they to attempt to, lol. This is one of those things that I think are more likely to happen from the community, given the new RPG Maker provides us with a sturdy enough framework to handle that.

author=Yellow Magic
Can we get a remake of 2k (or 2k3) pleeeeeeeaaass

author=Yellow Magic

author=kentona
YM knows where it's at

ma boi
bring back 320x240 screens and 24x32 sprites

I mean, they were never away....

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author=unity

author=Darken
I found out earlier that RPGMaker MV was on the Switch... had no idea

Wow, I had no idea either! Does that mean you can play MV games on the Switch, I wonder? Or at least MV games made with the Switch version?

There was a long discussion on the Commercial section of the Forums talking about porting your game to switch, with me and some others arguing back and forth about MV Switch being or not being the same engine as PC. I personally think it is, while the editor obviously isn't (some people fail to realize these are separate entities)

And that means that the tech for porting a MV game to Switch or any console does exist, and you'd just have to convince Degica or Kadokawa.... to try to convince Nintendo that your game is worth putting on their ecosystem.

That being said, if there's anything I'm confident that we'll see upgrading in the next RPG Maker, it's this, since it IS the new thing that MV tried (and somewhat failed); we'll at least get vastly improved Mobile support for sure.

author=MarkusT
Pixel MV? Pixel Game Maker MV? It's still being worked on actively, and it's much improved over time.. unless you're speaking of something else..

Interesting to know. I've heard some people absolutely r a v a g e that engine in scathing reviews. I'm also not a fan of Smile Game Builder as much as I wanted to like it, but I'm looking forward to Smile Game Builder 2022 nonetheless.

author=unity
I suspect this might be like VX Ace was to original VX, where they build the new engine on the back of the old. If so, (maybe) it wouldn't be hard to modify MV scripts for whatever this new one is (MV Ace? XD).

It's funny that VX Ace was mostly a functionality improvement over VX, with a much improved editor (and obviously, the upgrade to RGSS2), while MV is more like... VX Ace Plus: JavaScript Edition. The editor is absolutely untouched but the engine is rebuilt from the ground up with new technology.

If we do get something like MV Ace, it'd probably have enhanced functionality like VX Ace over VX. Which we haven't had since the leap from VX to VX Ace, mostly.

On the other hand if we do have a complete rebuild of the engine (even if, as has already been confirmed, it will be in a "familiar scripting environment") then I don't expect as many changes to the editor. So I don't know what to expect really, other than nothing radical and a lot of functionality and QoL upgrades.

author=MarkusT
IT'S A PRODUCT, NOT SOMETHING SOMEONE IS JUST DOING OUT OF THE KINDNESS OF THEIR HEART.

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