MIRAK'S PROFILE

author=kuraiken
50 USD unfortunately don't get anyone very far, though the artist I'm working with (the guy who originally came up with the game idea) has said he'd be willing to fund a pixel artist out of his pocket.
But it's not a solution either. And 5% of $11 a month will scarcely interest anyone.

I will repeat this just one more time only because it bothers me that you're not getting it; this is not about getting rich, "bountifully" compensated, "getting someone far", this is about simple, basic compensation. People will usually stick to a project if they know there's something, anything in it for them. You're consistently dismissing the amount you have right now when that is not *the point* (nevermind the fact that if you're posting constant screenshots and updates on social media to build hype, there's a chance patreons will increase, which would increase the payment percentage so there's even more motivation to stick around once the numbers start increasing), the point that you're missing is not joining a community as a new unknown person and immediately going:

author=kuraiken
We were hoping more for an enthusiast, someone who genuinly wants to make an adult RPG like that, who'd fully join the team & also help out with other stuff and leave their own mark on the game by being part of the decision makers. Down that line, 50-90% equal share of Slay's or mine would've been the go-to cut based on time-commitment.
At the same time, we wanted to avoid people who don't have genuine passion for a project like this.

A bit of self awareness please. We don't really live in a convenient world like the RPG's we host where you encounter group members in a place and after a few dialogue lines they'll join your party and be willing to die for your sins because somehow their loyalty will be undying as long as "the promise" of success exists.

I'm sincerely confused of what exactly you were expecting. This quote above reads like quite the 100% friendship lvl-type star-workmate person to want in your team, but I'd sincerely would never trust anyone who would join something like this out of the goodness in their heart without thinking twice, someone who would "enthusiastically" join a random person's project "just 'cause", to stick to the end. I'd have a lot more of a desire to do that if the person had at least the courtesy to say hi to everyone every once in a while and was at least "known from the nickname". Really, I'm quite confused.

You really gotta grind friendship points with a person BEFORE they'll be committed this much to a project that is not theirs, that could be taking time away from that person to put themselves in a better position aka work on their OWN projects. If you cannot wait to grind for those friendship points then The Only Choice you have is to drip feed them TANGIBLE "commitment juice" aka COMPENSATION.

author=kuraiken
Unfortunately, I felt it would be very unfair to promise some kind of "absolute security" that the project could not possibly fail. No one can assure or guarantee success, especially in times like this.

Nope, but you can guarantee compensation for the work done up until failure was met. Again, WHATEEEVER compensation. You think what you offer right now is not worth it and no one will take it. Have You Tried It Anyway?

author=kuraiken
I've worked on this for 5 months, the artist has been at it for 8 months+. That sounds pretty dedicated for a full-time investment.

See, this is why communities react like this. You joined and made your first post a team member request thread, without even taking a look at the site itself. If you had, you'd realize quickly how there's people with ongoing projects that span years even. I don't know how many have been released and how many are STILL going on.

What I do know at this community in particular is that bragging about time spent on a project is basically tempting fate. I think we have a person here who has been working on their game for over 10 years now. TEN. YEARS. And they're STILL not done. Not a line that curry lots of favor is my point.

Yeah, this was a miss maybe, but this will all be useful stuff to know if you guys really want to get in on the porn game development stuff.

That's why I added the "and/or". You're at least a qualifier for "awareness" of gamedev and also imo giving bux to RMN qualifies as being "invested" in this gamedev community.

In any case you have 4000+ makerscore while there's a few active dorks with less than a 100 LOL. LOL. LOL.

A note you should add is if you're willing to sign a legal contract that binds you to fulfill the promises of your potential payment methods listed here:

• The game has a patreon that may eventually cover long-term development after we start releasing builds. If we reach the point where there is actual financial support for the game, we’re going to negotiate with the artists to see how to best move forward.

Including giving the pixel artists a legal method of contact in order to ensure that neither you nor your buddy profit in any way without giving the artists their share.

Also could you elaborate a bit on what you mean with "the point where there is actual financial support for the game"? If you're talking about patreon support, what kind of prerequisites need to be filled to reach that point? Are there any points below that milestone that involve receiving funds to which the artists have no claim to? A bit more info on that very delicate matter would be very helpful, considering this is in your words an ambitious project, and pixel work is quite possibly the heaviest load in an ambitious MV project.

you keep saying that but i think the effect is opposite on me cuz i keep thinking more and more that i can actually shop online for a bunch of neat cheap shit with those 20 and this only fills me with DETERMINATION.

Thanks for your efforts!