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I am now certain that you are not scum and are just town trying to play scum as hard as possible.
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[MAFIA] Prisoner's Dilemma. Game Over
[MAFIA] Prisoner's Dilemma. Game Over
author=OzzyTheOneauthor=ivoryjonesWoot woot ^-^
Also, before I make my next post explaining the above^^ further, I'll just come out and say that me and ozzy are masons. Also, I'm the 1-shot vig that shot Liberty yesterday.
Jolly cooperation!
[MAFIA] Prisoner's Dilemma. Game Over
[MAFIA] Prisoner's Dilemma. Game Over
I'm guessing there were 3 scum in this game to begin with? 9 town vs 4 scum would be too skewed without any pre-determined handicaps for scum.
So let's see, now we are 10 vs 1. So if Piano flips town and I am killed afterwards, and scum hits both of their night kills, we will still be 6 vs 1, right? Even if he flips town, and then I flip town, the game is far from lost. In any case, we are both not confirmed and thus far less valuable. We have to start culling some of the non-confirmed townies. So even though I know I'm town, it's not the end of the world if I end up dying.
Yeah, you can go ahead and kill me if he flips town. I'll stick my hand in the fire. It would really suck to die like that, but my hunch is strong enough that I think it's worth the risk.
So let's see, now we are 10 vs 1. So if Piano flips town and I am killed afterwards, and scum hits both of their night kills, we will still be 6 vs 1, right? Even if he flips town, and then I flip town, the game is far from lost. In any case, we are both not confirmed and thus far less valuable. We have to start culling some of the non-confirmed townies. So even though I know I'm town, it's not the end of the world if I end up dying.
Yeah, you can go ahead and kill me if he flips town. I'll stick my hand in the fire. It would really suck to die like that, but my hunch is strong enough that I think it's worth the risk.
[MAFIA] Prisoner's Dilemma. Game Over
[MAFIA] Prisoner's Dilemma. Game Over
author=pianotm
I didn't get a lot of sleep, had to get up early, and then had to wait for an hour before getting stuck in the arm (and having her twist the needle in my arm because she missed the vein.)
That really sucks, man. I hope your arm is okay and that you catch-up on your lost sleep.
[MAFIA] Prisoner's Dilemma. Game Over
[MAFIA] Prisoner's Dilemma. Game Over
[MAFIA] Prisoner's Dilemma. Game Over
Piano the primary reason he's my top pick for scum his reaction to the psy claim:
https://rpgmaker.net/forums/topics/24686/?post=887443#post887443
Perfectly in line with Liberty's reaction. This next post is even worse!
https://rpgmaker.net/forums/topics/24686/?post=887437
Here he's guarding psy from being counter claimed. This is exactly what Liberty did in her post, too. It reeks of coordination. And he makes the same (nonsense) argument "don't vote for psy, he's a cop!".
I'm guessing for now, that scumteam thought that psy was making a decent enough claim, and that their plan was to convince us of this and then to have him confirm himself by telling one of us his/her role. I can't be sure of that, but it's looking very likely.
If we that that for granted, then piano's posts are a smoking gun. That's why I'm pushing him so hard.
Emily reacted like this:
https://rpgmaker.net/forums/topics/24686/?post=887443
I can't be sure from this one way or the other. I'm leaning town.
Demonlord I have read on yet. My gut tells me he's town, that's all.
https://rpgmaker.net/forums/topics/24686/?post=887443#post887443
piano
Roll-cop. That's that.
#cancel
Perfectly in line with Liberty's reaction. This next post is even worse!
https://rpgmaker.net/forums/topics/24686/?post=887437
piano
Okay, in this game, claims are easier to make because they can't be challenged. Nobody knows who the roles are, and in a game that, from what we can tell, may or may not be totally random, and looking at the rules, I can't see anything off-hand where CAVE says roles will be unique.
Ozzy, I thought you learned this lesson last game. Don't just put a vote on a cop claim.
Here he's guarding psy from being counter claimed. This is exactly what Liberty did in her post, too. It reeks of coordination. And he makes the same (nonsense) argument "don't vote for psy, he's a cop!".
I'm guessing for now, that scumteam thought that psy was making a decent enough claim, and that their plan was to convince us of this and then to have him confirm himself by telling one of us his/her role. I can't be sure of that, but it's looking very likely.
If we that that for granted, then piano's posts are a smoking gun. That's why I'm pushing him so hard.
Emily reacted like this:
https://rpgmaker.net/forums/topics/24686/?post=887443
Emily
That role seems awfully convenient.
I'm cancelling for right now, but like...we'll see.
Would it would make the most sense to not lynch Psy, and then find it extremely suspicious if he is not NK?
@Piano: Why wouldn't scum just kill Psy instead? Your reasoning seems pretty shaky to me.
I can't be sure from this one way or the other. I'm leaning town.
Demonlord I have read on yet. My gut tells me he's town, that's all.
[MAFIA] Prisoner's Dilemma. Game Over
This post by Liberty is really telling:
She never acknowledged that role-cop is a scummy role. Neither did she mention how useless it was for town. Actually, she implied the very opposite! "Scum will definitely kill you right away!" Yeah, as if. I see only two options
1) Scumteam was under the impression that rolecop was a solid claim. They thought they could fool us at least long enough for psy to "confirm" himself. In this case, we can tell who is scum by how they reacted to this claim.
2) Scumteam was always going to bus either psy or Liberty or both. Psy makes a bad claim and Liberty makes an even worse response to it.
author=Liberty
I'm honestly not sure if I believe your role claim or not. If it's true, scum are going to be gunning for you tonight since you're a sure-fire role hit. If not, then you're playing a very dumb game because I'm pretty sure town has a similar role and if it's not you that has that role then it'll be easily figured out, if not by someone calling bullshit now, then by someone doing so tomorrow after investigating others.
Ugh, fuck it, I'll put my vote back where it was for now. You better hope you don't get murdered in the night. If there's any bodyguard role, it might be a good idea if they protect you during the night phase just to see if they can stave off any scum interference whilst you prove yourself useful. Even a two-shot role-cop can be dangerous if they investigate the right person.
#lynch pianotm
She never acknowledged that role-cop is a scummy role. Neither did she mention how useless it was for town. Actually, she implied the very opposite! "Scum will definitely kill you right away!" Yeah, as if. I see only two options
1) Scumteam was under the impression that rolecop was a solid claim. They thought they could fool us at least long enough for psy to "confirm" himself. In this case, we can tell who is scum by how they reacted to this claim.
2) Scumteam was always going to bus either psy or Liberty or both. Psy makes a bad claim and Liberty makes an even worse response to it.
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