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If you have any sanity at all (or any amount of common sense), you'll AVOID the market until Monday, Tuesday to be safe. Can't even get a pint of ice cream due to all the chaos of Easter...

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author=Corfaisus
Make sure to put it in the silver spoon thread.


Yeah, on second thought, no.
Sooz
They told me I was mad when I said I was going to create a spidertable. Who’s laughing now!!!
5177
I don't see any spoons in that link?
I'm in the mood for ice cream now.
author=Sooz
I don't see any spoons in that link?


As in, 'born with a silver spoon in hand'.

author=SgtMettool
I'm in the mood for ice cream now.


Then have some.
InfectionFiles
the world ends in whatever my makerscore currently is
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I thought it was silver spoon in mouth

Either way...

Cat's in the cradle and the silver spoon, little boy blue and the man in the moon

Ten silver spoons coming after me, one life with one dream on repeat
author=InfectionFiles
I thought it was silver spoon in mouth

Either way...

Cat's in the cradle and the silver spoon, little boy blue and the man in the moon

Ten silver spoons coming after me, one life with one dream on repeat


That gave me a little chuckle.
Okay, maybe one thing. I am an Elementalist Pagan. Of all the different types of Paganism out there, we are a mega minority with very few followers throughout our long and enduring heritage, which just so happens to be one of the longest in human history, because we were mostly hidden from the world (and still are).

Well Christians can't really have stolen holidays from a hidden religion since the whole reason they stole holidays was to appease the converted populace so if the original religion was tiny and hidden there wasn't really any populace to appease.
author=Shinan
Well Christians can't really have stolen holidays from a purposely hidden religion sect since the whole reason they stole holidays was to appease the forcefully converted populace so if one of the original religion sects were tiny and hidden there wasn't really any populace to appease.

We hid because we knew that we would be the survivors of the end times, which do draw very near, very quickly. But a forceful conversion of some of our highest regarded Acolytes forced us to stop some of the rituals we did in open spaces.
We have yet to resume such rituals. The Gods are displeased with us and as such they punish us daily.

Also, there is no large Pagan sect. Any given sect has no more than ~100,000 followers, and at most has 100 clerics.
Sooz
They told me I was mad when I said I was going to create a spidertable. Who’s laughing now!!!
5177
Y'all should probably get back on those rituals, if your gods are so mad.
author=Sooz
Y'all should probably get back on those rituals, if your gods are so mad.

Maybe they eat people. That is generally frowned upon.
author=Shinan
author=Sooz
Y'all should probably get back on those rituals, if your gods are so mad.
Maybe they eat people. That is generally frowned upon. But I really don't know what I am talking about.


Okay, sure. We'll just decimate an entire civilized area around the size of twenty-five square miles so we can have our open space.

I cannot think of a quicker way to not only anger the Gods further, but to anger an already paranoid, and vicarious race of mortals, because overpopulation is not only favoured, but somehow legal.

Eating people...seriously...

That may be a survival instinct, but not any sort of ritual we perform (and as an Elementalist it would serve no purpose to eat a person but it would not necessarily be looked upon as nefarious).

So, why do we need as much open space? Generally, all sorts of elemental power comes from the parts of the open space such as the soil, the trees, bodies of water, unbridled wind, and so on. Bustling cities and even small towns tend to block this freely flowing power. Even a small ranch out in the middle of nowhere can be an obstacle.

Some of us have been called 'hippys' because of our love and need of large, natural areas, and that doesn't bother me at all. However, what does is all the negative and unearned stigma that comes our way because of Corporate Greed, Lovers of Inequality, and Toxifiers that love to destroy without paying their dues.

The Gods are angry at us, but know this; the anger they have for us is multiplied by at least a thousand fold, for those responsible for destroying the balance of things. Once those who have been marked have been dealt with, we can once again be one with the flow of elemental power, as it should of always been.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I've got levels to design.
Corfaisus
"It's frustrating because - as much as Corf is otherwise an irredeemable person - his 2k/3 mapping is on point." ~ psy_wombats
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You see, I - as a Christian - love all people and wish no harm to befall them. I've been shown grace by my God and far be it from me to turn around and smite people.

author=Reapergurl
The Gods are angry at us, but know this; the anger they have for us is multiplied by at least a thousand fold, for those responsible for destroying the balance of things. Once those who have been marked have been dealt with, we can once again be one with the flow of elemental power, as it should of always been.

This, however, reeks of an infernal hatred for all things.
author=Corfaisus
You see, I - as a Christian and a mortal - love all people and wish no harm to befall them. I've been shown grace by my God and far be it from me to turn around and smite people.

author=Reapergurl
The Gods are angry at us, but know this; the anger they have for us is multiplied by at least a thousand fold, for those responsible for destroying the balance of things. Once those who have been marked have been dealt with, we can once again be one with the flow of elemental power, as it should of always been.


This, however, reeks of an infernal hatred for all things by the non-mortals.


Hmmm...you seem to be forgetting how this works.

Mortalkind is held to certain standards, whereas non-mortals create these standards, but whether or not the non-mortals follows the same standards is entirely up to them with no consequence.

Another thing...and I'll illustrate with RGSS Syntax.

Anger != Hatred (Anger is NOT the same as Hatred; you can consult both a Lexicon and the Thesaurus)

The Gods are very angry at us overall. But those whom have defied and defiled their will are those whom have been marked for expulsion from the living.

If this were an act of hatred, as you incorrectly call it, all sinful mortals would be expelled from the living. Now, there have been times, as we have been told, that entire mortal races have been exterminated in this manner, but as it were, it is an extreme case. Is planet Earth an extreme case? Not really.

I mean, we've done a lot to incite a powerful retribution, but for every ten sinners who don't repay for their sins, there's one or two that do.

Oh, I should mention one falsehood about sins. A child born is a fresh slate, so to speak; only in the eyes of other sinners do children inherit their parents' sins.

A lot of children will vanish from the world, but only because they've been brought to Eden, the Harborer of Innocence for safekeeping, sometimes permanent residence. Not just children, but those who society has burdened with their sins, those falsely accused, persecuted, and shamed, as well as those whose lives are dedicated to selfless deeds.

The time draws near, so very near. But in the end, any religious following/lack thereof has no meaning to the non-mortals, only to the mortals whom of which we all convene with.

I once spoke of my truest wish, and as selfless as it was, unfortunately, human kind in general are not selfless enough to see it as anything but selfish.

"For the human race to perish. We have abused our land and abused ourselves far beyond the possibility of forgiveness."


It is merely a wish based upon a true and insightful observation; for such a wish to be brought to realization by non-mortal hands is rapturous.
author=Reapergurl
author=Shinan
author=Sooz
Y'all should probably get back on those rituals, if your gods are so mad.
Maybe they eat people. That is generally frowned upon. But I really don't know what I am talking about.
Okay, sure. We'll just decimate an entire civilized area around the size of twenty-five square miles so we can have our open space.

There are plenty of uninhabited 25 square mile areas in the world. Most of North America is sparsely populated. Not to mention the great wilderness of northern Russia. There's also deserts and the ocean (though maybe the ocean doesn't qualify) if you want actual "open space". (Saying 25 square mile open space makes me think of a 25 square mile empty parking lot, but you then mention trees and whatnot so it seems it only needs to be "wildernessy".)
ESBY
extreme disappointment
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I'm guessing you were christian before converting to paganism. Your obsession with angry gods and sinners is worrisome.
Namedropping Eden is a dead giveaway. I just feel like an ancient pagan cult wouldn't need to use a biblical placename.
Reapergurl: What gods? Do you have proof of these gods or their hatred? Or sins? I feel a lot like I just read the introduction to some sort of near-apocalyptic JRPG. Not to be an asshole, but if you are going to make some claims like that I think you should have some sort of evidence.
author=Shinan
There are plenty of uninhabited 25 square mile areas in the world. Most of North America is sparsely populated. Not to mention the great wilderness of northern Russia. There's also deserts and the ocean (though maybe the ocean doesn't qualify) if you want actual "open space". (Saying 25 square mile open space makes me think of a 25 square mile empty parking lot, but you then mention trees and whatnot so it seems it only needs to be "wildernessy".)

You do have a valid point. However, it cannot just be any large, uninhabited area (and a desert only radiates with flames and winds); it has to actually be centered around what we call a localized elemental spawn. These are not found everywhere, and with urbanization are rapidly disappearing.

What is this elemental spawn? In short, energy doesn't just flow, it has to be bound to a certain something (and that can be one of thousands of things-a good portion that of which are invisible to the unaided eye or are not visible at all) for it to flow; this spawn is where the energy flows from, around, and back to. Why would it need a lot of undisturbed space? In truth, it likely wouldn't, and 25 sq. miles is an estimate, but a safe estimate so that during the ritual, any sudden shift in the energy flow will be incredibly unlikely to interrupt the process.

author=ESBY
I'm guessing you were Christian before converting to Paganism. Your obsession with angry gods and sinners is worrisome.
author=Shinan
Namedropping Eden is a dead giveaway. I just feel like an ancient Pagan cult sect wouldn't need to use a Biblical placename.

No, all I believed in was Karma and Anti-Karma; it wasn't until I got into some hard drugs that I found myself wandering into the loving, caring arms of a Pagan High Priestess. A conversion? Lifestyle, sure, but my beliefs were only reinforced by the teachings, not converted.

Eden just happens to be her name; the original Governess of Innocence went by the name Darei, though in truth, she's merely the founder of the idea and had not been a Harborer, like Eden (Ay-dehn - Ee-dehn [ Iden] is a poisonous plant once used to make medicine with).

Worry not, every one pronounces her name wrong at first.

author=Necrile
Reapergurl: What Gods? Do you have proof of these Gods or their hatred anger? Or sins? I feel a lot like I just read the introduction to some sort of near-apocalyptic JRPG. Not to be an asshole, but if you are going to make some claims like that I think you should have some sort of evidence.

Absence of Proof != (not equal to) Proof of Absence. Remember that, and especially remember it when the cataclysmic chaos caused by the sudden disruption and the Gods' interference makes daily life questionable.

It will happen without clear warning. It makes no sense to allow mortals to know something terrible and unthinkable is going to happen to them (and I surmise you can make sense of the reasoning behind this).

Is there visible proof to be found?

Probably not, but clear indications of things being different than what may be expected by the largest portion of the populace are often treated by the minority as non-coincidental.

A story that we often tell the youth involves a small town in the middle of a plain back in the eighteenth century, which had several small houses, and five larger building constructs - a Judiciary (Law/Imprisonment/Financial), Indoor Market, a Parlour (saloon/cat house/etcetera), and then a Church and a Temple.

This was a town where settlers had come from all places, and decided to make a thoroughly peaceful place to live, and for a time, it was so, until an outlaw decided to try to turn the people of one religion against the other (the names of the religions were not given or necessary), namely, the Church against the Temple, because this 'outlaw' had been banned by the Temple for various shenanigans that aren't mentioned in great detail.

All it took was one rumor being spread about a secret ritual chamber below the temple where the clerics would feast upon flesh and bone, and the war began.

Five years this went back and forth, all the while the clerics only defended their lives and the lives of the innocent whilst the Church mobs chose to use whatever they could muster to end the heretical ways of the Temple.

Houses were burned, as were the Market, Parlour and the Judiciary, until only the Temple and Church remained standing, and even those were torched, but burned slowly.

So much smoke went into the sky that it generated storm clouds, and it got so powerful that it spawned a tornado. People ran for their lives, the true heretics hid like cowards whilst the clerics prayed in the burning Temple for this to be brought to a swift end...

...And it was.

Once the storm cleared, people came out of hiding to find every house had been destroyed and scoured to their foundations, with some houses having their foundations ripped away as well, and even the Parlour, Judiciary and the Market weren't spared.

However, the Church was a complete pile of thoroughly burned rubble, and underneath were the bodies of many, whom had hid within its' said-to-be sturdy walls, forty-six in count and unrecognizable.

The most awe-inspiring thing of all, was the Temple. Left untouched, and no longer burning, nor any sign of any fire damage on the exterior, people saw this, and wondered why they were spared.

But rather than allow their beliefs to be swayed, the town was simply abandoned by the majority of the surviving populace; it was rebuilt as a town for the devotees of the Temple.

At the end of this book, an illustration of the town from a top-down perspective is shown, as well as what it looked like after the storm.

The symbol that the houses with their foundations still standing kind of resembles the symbol we use in common reference as a 'Justice' symbol, while the symbol of the houses completely ripped away resembles the symbol for 'Deceit'.
author=Reapergurl
Absence of Proof != (not equal to) Proof of Absence


Unfortunately, it is. If I do not have proof of my claim, then I can say literally anything and you have to take my word as fact. I don't mind if you have your beliefs, I can't talk anyone down from their religion nor do I wish to. What bothers me is people who claim the sky is falling over and over because someone will inevitably believe them, and some people go as far as to kill themselves to avoid it (yes seriously, look up any number of different cults that commit mass suicide). People have been singing the same tune since the dawn of time, and yet day after day people continue to keep living on. If your head-cleric (I don't know the nomenclature) is the one telling you these things, I would proceed with that religion with caution.
hahaha holy fuckles girl, what is your deal? every day you post something petty which later turns into an agonizingly long speech about made-up religious stuff. i thought i hit it good when i made a topic about dicks when i first joined but holy schmoly you beat me.
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