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Just plugged in my drawing tablet for the first time... It's been what, a year since I got it? Whoa...

You had a 300 dollar slab just sitting around your room, eh?

I've been putting my FAFSA off for months now and it took, like, 8 minutes.

author=Antilurker77
Wasn't the deadline in March?


Deadlines change depending on what state your school's at. Still better to get it as early as possible.

8 minutes is, like, record time though.

Ironically, RPG Maker on tumblr is now associated with horror instead of with, you know, RPGs.

author=Melkino
author=Ratty524
Also, f*ck those games. Almost every horror adventure I've played involves walking up to an object > examine > WOOOJUMPSCARE! > repeat. They may be easier to make but I'm just so tired of seeing the same basic formula repeated constantly.
Don't forget the generic little girl protagonists! :v


Now there are little boy protagonists too though >_o

I dunno, I think it's cool that there's a new audience getting into using RPG Maker. It's true that a lot of the games have quite a bit of overlap with other games, but there are some that seem to have potential for a lot of fresh imagery and ideas. I'll offer up Mao for your viewing since it doesn't seem to have a page here on RMN.

Considering that many new horror adventure games are made by younger game devs with little to no experience, it's not surprising that the games aren't exceptionally strong or innovative. That's just what beginners in any medium make. You can't tell me that there aren't hundreds of RPG clones floating around here, too.

What I hope is that when the boom settles, we'll have some horror game devs with more experience who are willing to try new things and branch out from where they started (which seems to be that examine object->jumpscare->stick object in hole formula you guys are talking about).

Actually what I also hope is that those devs come to rpg maker forums for help and advice rather than consulting each other round robin-style and sharing the same ideas, but.

Ironically, RPG Maker on tumblr is now associated with horror instead of with, you know, RPGs.

Kylaila, the way you wrote that gives me the feeling that you've suffered the pain of sifting through a lot of crappy horror o_o
You have my condolences.

It's true, though, that good RPGs are really hard to make. And that "bad" RPGs can't compare for play quality in comparison to "bad" horror games. As long as you get scared somewhere, you've got it. And there are many who get scared easily.


Mm, good points here. Though I found that out recently. The hard way. Mmmmm.

I guess I'm really getting now that horror games are very specialized experiences whereas RPGs are rounded and need to excel in a variety of areas in order to be successful. Still, now that we're getting inundated with waves of horror games it's probably going to be more difficult to stand out in that genre.

Really I'm just thinking about how easy it is to appeal to the Japanophile horror (as you call them) fans with pretty anime art but lackluster concept/execution. At this point I'd compare them to SnowOwl's amazing horror games, except I haven't actually played them because the screenshots scare me and I've lost my big boy pants.

Anyway, the rambling means I should go to sleep, oops.

Ironically, RPG Maker on tumblr is now associated with horror instead of with, you know, RPGs.

author=slashphoenix
Hahaha, you contributed to that!

I wonder if horror games are usually just more realistically scoped? Consider the amount of code and art you need for RPG battles, maps, towns, etc. Even a small RPG seems difficult compared to a horror game, which only needs just enough to create an atmosphere and mood. That's just a guess, though.


Ssh, it's "not a horror". Even if it's splashed on all the horror pages.

And yeah, that sounds about right. Just thinking about balancing stats is saddening. Most people in that crowd are probably also thinking RPGs = swords and fantasy, though there are great (and underrated) gamemakers like Gabicho making unorthodox but still pretty RPGs.

author=JJJ7
Well, I only play horror and comedy games in VX Ace...

This might explain why you're your own favorite writer in the RMN community.

Just kidding, I'm sure there are some horror and comedy games here with amazing writing =P

author=Link_2112
The horror :o


Indeed. How blasphemous!

Wait... did I hear that right? Is Ao Oni getting a MOVIE?!

Looks like it'll be a great comedy!

Japanese gamemaker mogeko (Wadanohara, Gray Garden, Mogeko Castle) was chased off tumblr because of hate and death threats.

Yeah, you can potentially meet some great people there and forge a lot of connections, but you'll have to deal with people who like to stir up drama. Being successful there as a gamemaker probably involves a lot of PR work and keeping up an illusion of personal connection while actually being extremely mindful of what you say and do.

Guess that's not too different from anywhere else, though.

Japanese gamemaker mogeko (Wadanohara, Gray Garden, Mogeko Castle) was chased off tumblr because of hate and death threats.

author=TungerManU
I just hope Tumblr hasn't driven Mogeko away from making games. Wonder what vgperson thinks about this.


Me too, but considering what a huge shitstorm it is on tumblr it's more prudent for them to not give any opinion publicly. :/

Japanese gamemaker mogeko (Wadanohara, Gray Garden, Mogeko Castle) was chased off tumblr because of hate and death threats.

author=Pizza
Another entry to record in my "People are the Worst for SRS" log. I seem to be noticing this sort of lack of respect more often since that incident with Dudesoft on Imgur. Unfortunate.


Oh, man, that sucks. Dudesoft seems like a really swell guy, too. :/

I'm very glad to see that people here, at least, are very respectful in their criticism, even when they feel offended. Well, for the most part, since those that aren't... =P

Japanese gamemaker mogeko (Wadanohara, Gray Garden, Mogeko Castle) was chased off tumblr because of hate and death threats.

author=slashphoenix
Oof... was there anything in particular that sparked it?


From what people have been saying, mogeko drew a non-con pic of Wadanohara and Sal because someone requested it. The picture was put under a readme, had nsfw tags, etc etc, and mogeko later took it down and apologized very politely.

Yet the first reactions people had were to anonymously send hateful messages and demean mogeko for writing a "shitty apology"-- which, really, mogeko is Japanese, not a native English speaker. What did they expect?

Apparently they're also sending hate messages to fan blogs of mogeko's works.

Overall, I'm just so disappointed.

There's a lot of fan support on tumblr too, but uh, mogeko already deleted all of their tumblr blogs so they probably won't see it. Ay. I've sent an email to mogeko with support, but really we can only hope that mogeko doesn't start thinking the English-speaking community is full of dicks.