ANTIGOD'S PROFILE

author=Housekeeping
I'm the only sane person in this entire thread.

And it's appreciated. Such people do occasionally pop up in internet discussions, albeit not often enough.

I probably won't get more than a demo showcasing the various factions before the deadline, and there's an element of the gay vs. lesbian plot that's important to the satire.

Your idea of a closeted gay homophobe leading a crusade against their own is something I've considered, but figured it'd better fit into a prequel of some sort, if I ever get that far, called "Friend of Dorothy" in which an FBI squad is formed to investigate a homosexual conspiracy (based on true events).

author=Sooz
When the current vice president sincerely believes in gay conversion "therapy" and The Gay Agenda, I feel like maybe we're not at the level where this "satire" works. I mean so far it's literally just repeating what a lot of people legit believe, which is super iffy, since it's also presenting a "you choose who to be!" viewpoint.

I dunno, maybe you're capable of pulling it off in a respectful manner, but at the moment I can't even tell what you're satirizing. Like, yes, satire involves taking views to absurd extremes, but so far you don't seem to be explicitly showing these views as absurd, you're just using them as a setting. :/

If you can't see what about my concept is absurd, I don't think there's anything I can do to help you. What it's criticizing should be equally obvious.

I don't think anyone, not even Mike Pence, legit believes that gays want to murder all heterosexuals and take over the world, but some do believe that ot being allowed to discriminate against gays is somehow a conspiracy to discriminate against them. It's is a satirical exaggeration of real right wing paranoia.

author=Indra
Do you even listen to yourself?
People who start by saying "OH IT'LL BE SATIRE HEHE" are exactly the people who don't know how it works and are just being asses.

Do you have another example? It seems like you have experience with these types of situations, unless you just made that up just now to call me an ass and get away with it.

At any rate, no, "breeder" is not a "porn term": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breeder_(slang)

I actually picked it up reading blogs on the voluntary human extinction movement, which is also subtly parodied in the game.

I don't even watch video porn. I do read porn comics sometimes, but I've never come across such, and I'd challenge you to find sauce for me (maybe via PM since that's probably not a good public convo).

author=Liberty
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At any rate, BE is a game about absolutely repulsive and abhorrent behavior that is clearly tolerated within the game, which has absolutely no redeeming social value whatsoever. You can argue that we're not supposed to empathize with the character, but the ending pretty clearly wants you to, and there's no "radiant transformative magic" to the game's themes - it's about an evil character being evil, plain and simple.

He is not presented as wrong for his actions, nothing happens to him, he is forgiven. And we're talking about stuff that's many, many times worse than using no-no words.

By contrast, I'm talking about making something that has some offensive dialogue that isn't rewarded, and the game's blatant lack of seriousness is to mock a bigoted viewpoint, not to say, "Hey, look, there's worse!"

Basically, what I'm hearing from you is that you don't want anti-gay characters portrayed in a positive light, and that's not an issue.

I'm not gonna say I was't looking forward to people's reactions to my idea, but I thought it'd be more from people like my dad than from LGBT supporters. How any of you can possibly take such a ridiculous game idea so seriously is beyond me.

I do apologize for my bad attitude. I'm going through a lot right now, and I am rather angry. I don't mean to take it out on people here... but when people accuse me of being anti-gay, a "hater", an "ass", and all that other stuff, the fangs can pop out easier than I mean.

author=unity
So, you're demonizing LGBTQ people in the name of satire. -_- Let me be the first to say that this isn't really a very cool thing you're doing here. Due to Poe's Law, even if you're a master of satire, there are going to be plenty of people who take your game at face value, and that's not a good thing.

You are of course free to make any game you want, but I feel like this is the opposite of the sort of thing that LGBTQ pride is all about.

If you can't tell that a game in which "LGBT community has finally won its war against the moral fabric of society. Heterosexuality has been declared a hate crime punishable by death..." and featuring James Dobson, God of the Mutant Breeders from the Sewers as primary antagonist is supposed to be a joke, you belong in a mental hospital or a special ed class somewhere, not playing games.

Anyways, having pride doesn't mean lacking a sense of humor or being hyper-sensitive to juvenile humor.

author=InfectionFiles
You're free to make that game but there's no guarantee that it will be accepted. Nor do we have to for any reason. Because it frankly sounds horrible.

But, y'know, go for it if that is how you wanna spend your time.

Well, it would say a lot about your character if you accept games about abduction, sexual humiliation, and torture, but don't accept an LGBT pride game from a LGBT person on the basis of some foul language.

Anyways, maybe it won't be as horrible as you think.

When I called my dad earlier this evening and told him about the idea for this game, his response was something along the lines of, "You'd better make sure they can't find you if you make this. They'll charge you with a hate crime. America isn't free anymore, you can't even refuse to bake cakes for people. What if the fags figure out who you are and trace this back to our family? What if me and your mother get investigated?"

Completely missing the point, that his sort of paranoia is exactly what I'm making fun of. (The fact that I'm LGBT myself did not enter the conversation, nor will it ever, though I suspect he knows.)

Socially relevant, yes, but a "game based around the 40s and how gay or black people were treated at the time" is too pretentious and afterschool special for somebody like me. There is a good message here, but, no, it won't be somber, sappy, or anywhere in the neighborhood of politically correct or remotely reverent. Like Rick & Steve, and unlike Gen Zed, it won't even be overtly preachy - blink and you'll miss it. The stereotypes and hate-words and black comedy will be ubiquitious, albeit used in a similar vein to the aforementioned cartoon, and justified in context. It will say "faggot" and "dyke", and quite a lot, usually by gays self-referentially as opposed to in a hateful context. Sure, the more conservative types might not care for the language, but there will be a onscreen warning before the game starts, and it's not like I'm not gonna hold a gun to anyone's head and make them play it.

Expect an endless stream of middle school humor, but no porn, rape, nudity or even actual sex is planned.

Anyways, if you're going to host games that gleefully advocate and reward abduction, sexual assault and humiliation, torture, and serial murder with no consequences for said behavior in the name of "art" (and you should - that's a damn good game) then I should be able to make a game with some bad language that pokes fun at the social issues surrounding my sexuality.

It's going to be one to skip if don't like black-and-blue comedy or you're lacking in the sense of humor department, but it's probably not going to violate any pornography or hate speech laws anywhere.

I understand the concerns, but I'm trying for a hard-R vibe here, and promise I won't go any further than that.

I've been a lurker for a little while, and played around with some of the RPG Maker programs, but never released anything.

Today, I visited this site on a whim, and I saw the GAYmak the Rainbow contest, and figured this would be the perfect time to jump in.

I probably don't have time to make anything spectacular, considering the deadline is in two days, but I'll never get started with game-making unless I force myself, and what a great opportunity to show support for the LGBT community!