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Ratty524
The 524 is for 524 Stone Crabs
12986
I think Cave Dog diddit because he hasn't paid me back for the imaginary loan I gave him.

pianotm
The TM is for Totally Magical.
32388
FWIW, I agree that today, Cave seems less scummy. If he is innocent and manages to avoid a lynching (which he can't unless someone else gets voted on; my objection can't be withdrawn, you see), he'll be easy to frame during night-action after this day phase. Just thought you all might like to know that the mafia in this game have the power to make townies look like scum. None of this means Cave is or isn't scum. We literally have nothing to go on. (BTW, there's a little flawed logic in the gun argument. It's true that the vigilante is the only one that explicitly--here, meaning "specifically described as"--gets to have a gun, but that doesn't bar other players, including scum from having a gun.).

Well, either people will continue to bandwagon, or they'll find someone else to go after. ATM, there's as much a chance Cave is scum as he is a townie.

By the way, Cave, we have twelve players. Even though the lawyers are on the side of town, we don't count as town. That leaves 10 on day one. After lynching and nightkill, we would have eight left. Puddor's math is sound provided there are two mafia.
CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
On sunny days, I go out walking
1142
I take issue with the assumption that there are two mafia, which is why I asked if it was in his role pm. It might be, since he is the lawyer, or whatever.

In any case, not lynching because the 'town' numbers aren't large doesn't do us any good. It's not as if more town players are going to appear, making things look more favorable.
Isrieri
"My father told me this would happen."
6155
Vote Tally

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Yellow Magic = 1
CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK = 4
LockeZ = 1
NoLynch = 1
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7 or more votes required to lynch.
31 hours to end of Day 1
I don't want to bandwagon, and I don't want to no lynch either. I have no idea what to do.
I would probably no lynch, but people have made some good arguments as to why NOT do that
CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
On sunny days, I go out walking
1142
author=Yellow Magic
Quotefail, but tl;dr LockeZ is suspicious and needs lynching as per above vote^


##lynch lockez

I will post case on someone else later (i promise) but I think lockez is fine for now.

He's excusing himself/several other players from scumhunting for meta reasons for the purpose of taking out 'dangerous players.' But I think lockez knows this logic isn't really ironclad.

The thing about taking out someone like yellow magic, is that yes, he can be crafty as scum, but also valuable as town. If you wanted to use meta reasons to lynch, the optimal plan would be to lynch someone who is very hard to read all the time, but doesn't do much as town (a "despite," for instance.)

I feel like lockez knows this and is just using it as an excuse to form a bandwagon on a high value target, (or a zero-value target: me).

My opinion of him may change if he actually starts looking for bad guys.
CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
On sunny days, I go out walking
1142
author=Liberty
Now. Now I am thematically correct! And with one of my favourite PW characters, to boot!


liberty, why did you claim your role here
...I changed my avatar to one of my favourite Phoenix Wright characters, like everyone else was doing. You know, since it's a PW-themed mafia. Wasn't aware that meant I was claiming a role.

*GASP*

WHY DIDN'T ANYONE TELL ME?!?!
Also, you should do the same. There's a lot of animated stuff out there for PW and a ton of characters to pick from if you've never played the games before. ^.^

I think you'd make a good Godot. Or maybe Manfred von Karma. Ooooh, or Damon Gant!
CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
On sunny days, I go out walking
1142
I assumed by thematically-correct, you were referring to your flavor.

i'm not sure if I can let go of this avatar. it brings me much joy
CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
On sunny days, I go out walking
1142
What do you think about lockez
pianotm
The TM is for Totally Magical.
32388
author=CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
i'm not sure if I can let go of this avatar. it brings me much joy


Oh, it's not like it has to be permanent. I dropped my Crowley avatar temporarily.
I really dunno what to think about LockeZ.

Also, I said earlier that CAVE's wild and aggressive behavior makes him hard to read, however said behavior can be pretty valuable for town. He really can put the pressure on people, which would be good if he IS town, but would be bad if he's scum.
In any case, I notice he has a bunch of lynch votes, and I don't think we should lynch him just yet. He could still be dangerous if he's scum, but we should wait until we have some evidence of that before getting rid of someone who can really help us out.
But that takes us back to the whole "We don't have evidence it's day 1" thing. unless someone slips up badly.
...Yeah, yeah I suppose it does.
CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
On sunny days, I go out walking
1142
author=wildwes
I really dunno what to think about LockeZ.

Also, I said earlier that CAVE's wild and aggressive behavior makes him hard to read, however said behavior can be pretty valuable for town. He really can put the pressure on people, which would be good if he IS town, but would be bad if he's scum.
In any case, I notice he has a bunch of lynch votes, and I don't think we should lynch him just yet. He could still be dangerous if he's scum, but we should wait until we have some evidence of that before getting rid of someone who can really help us out.


this is a scum post, wildwes. why are you making scum posts
pianotm
The TM is for Totally Magical.
32388
Why is Wes' comment a scum post? He's right. You are a very useful player for whatever team you're on...unless you're given some kind of power, and then you're an unbearable taskmaster.

Also...I don't know why I'm wondering this now, but wildwes, what is that cat in your avi making a mess with?