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author=Harbinger
Well guess im learning Java in CodeAcademy now xD

JavaSCRIPT. Java is an entirely different language from Javascript.

... I started learning Java myself before I realized how badly I derped.

author=d2k

author=Red_Nova

author=Harbinger
Well guess im learning Java in CodeAcademy now xD

JavaSCRIPT. Java is an entirely different language from Javascript.

... I started learning Java myself before I realized how badly I derped.

yeah right. java is actually a shitty language while Javascript is like a boss language now with NPM, APM and all the other package management tools. Also React.js is awesome.

EDIT:
Harbinger if you need someone who helps you with js, just contact me. I'm pretty available for stuff like that.

Thanks I appreciatte it, although CodeAcademy also teaches javascript i believe.

author=d2k
yeah right. java is actually a shitty language while Javascript is like a boss language now with NPM, APM and all the other package management tools.

Seriously?

JS is one of the worst languages ever created. James Iry got it exactly right in his satirical history of programming languages:

1995 - Brendan Eich reads up on every mistake ever made in designing a programming language, invents a few more, and creates LiveScript. Later, in an effort to cash in on the popularity of Java the language is renamed JavaScript. Later still, in an effort to cash in on the popularity of skin diseases the language is renamed ECMAScript.

author=FlyingJester
JavaScript is a lot better than people make it out to be.

It has very simple rules about type coercion, but because they are not apparent at first people make fun of them. The only time that really will bite you in the ass is with using null

Really? Seriously?

JS also has good object oriented features. Unfortunately, most people immediately think that "object oriented" means "inheritance with virtual functions". That's not what it means, that's just a certain way it can exist.

...and the only way it actually works successfully.

In fact, JavaScript is more like the original object-oriented language, Smalltalk.

The term may have been created by one of the Smalltalk guys, but the original object-oriented language was Simula, which introduced the notion of classes, inheritance, and virtual methods. Then a bunch of guys led by Alan Kay decided to throw all that away because they didn't like classes and try something radically different that has failed miserably in the "marketplace of ideas" every time it's been introduced. The only good thing that came out of their work was the term "object-oriented programming."

And before anyone says "well what about JavaScript? What about Objective-C? Aren't they successful?", the answers to those questions are no and no, respectively. I mentioned the marketplace of ideas for a reason. You can't have a functioning market without strong competition. JavaScript is a monopolist in HTML scripting, and therefore no useful conclusions can be drawn from its dominance of that section of programming. And Objective-C, which essentially bolts Smalltalk's object model onto the C language, is only used at all because Steve Jobs decided to force it down everyone's throat on iOS. It essentially does not exist outside the Apple ecosystem, and now that he's gone, even Apple is realizing that it sucks and is acting on it, working actively to replace it with a language whose very name underscores one of the major problems (particularly for game development!) with the Smalltalk/ObjC model: Swift.

JS uses a prototypical object model, which I think is actually very nice for game making. Even better than the object models of languages like C++ and Java. I often find myself wishing for a prototype-based object model in C and C++.

Well, C has no OOP support at all, and C++'s object model is completely broken from beginning to end, due largely to the fact that it supports inheritance and treats objects as value types, which are mutually incompatible for complicated technical reasons that would be really off-topic to discuss here. So even a mostly-broken model like prototyping would be an improvement. That doesn't mean it's not a mostly-broken model.

Really, it largely comes down to JS looking a lot like Java and C++ at first glance, and people draw conclusions based on those other languages.

And why would it not be appropriate, when comparing languages that have been successful in the marketplace of ideas to languages that have not, to look at the differences between them and see what they're doing wrong?

I would LOVE to switch over to this...except I don't think my rm2k3 game I've built 500+ maps for and over 1500 events is going to translate over easy....unless there is some miracle converter I don't know about, in which case, I'm on board the hype train! lol

Ok I laughed pretty hard at the JavaScript jokes.

So I was reading a couple reviews and I saw someone saying you could no longer insert commands in the event editor (i.e. if you want to have a character walk to point X, open a door, and go into a room, but forget the part where they open the door, you now have to delete everything below where they should have opened the door to add that part in). Is that accurate?