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[MAFIA] PRISONER'S DILEMMA. GAME OVER
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psy_wombats
13315
oh good a fellow simulator enthusiast
I think you've got an issue with `if tmp_scum > tmp_town` -- should be `if tmp_scum >= tmp_town`
In practice the endgame differs based on an even/odd number of players. 2 town 1 scum being lynch-or-lose, 3 town 1 scum being mislynch-and-lose. And generally you want LYLO over MYLO for better odds.
I think you've got an issue with `if tmp_scum > tmp_town` -- should be `if tmp_scum >= tmp_town`
In practice the endgame differs based on an even/odd number of players. 2 town 1 scum being lynch-or-lose, 3 town 1 scum being mislynch-and-lose. And generally you want LYLO over MYLO for better odds.
Fomar0153
16396
Oops in that case the results are:
Not Lynching on day 1
town:10421
scum:89579
days:4.96056
Lynching on day 1
town:20825
scum:79175
days:5.1637
Sorry PlatinumAshes
#Cancel
#lynch PlatinumAshes
But what I'm taking away from this is that the town is pretty much doomed.
Not Lynching on day 1
town:10421
scum:89579
days:4.96056
Lynching on day 1
town:20825
scum:79175
days:5.1637
Sorry PlatinumAshes
#Cancel
#lynch PlatinumAshes
But what I'm taking away from this is that the town is pretty much doomed.
Fomar0153
16396
Found it interesting how varying the numbers changed the results so drastically. If anyone else is interested:
Lynching day 1
No lynching day 1
The %s are the town's chance of winning.
Lynching day 1
| 1 scum | 2 scum | 3 scum | 4 scum | 5 scum |
1 town | 49.78% | 0.00% | 0.00% | 0.00% | 0.00% |
2 town | 32.83% | 0.00% | 0.00% | 0.00% | 0.00% |
3 town | 25.10% | 13.25% | 0.00% | 0.00% | 0.00% |
4 town | 46.41% | 8.24% | 5.80% | 0.00% | 0.00% |
5 town | 37.54% | 22.82% | 3.24% | 2.48% | 0.00% |
6 town | 54.23% | 15.55% | 11.37% | 1.31% | 1.15% |
7 town | 45.21% | 29.67% | 6.84% | 5.68% | 0.54% |
8 town | 59.46% | 21.58% | 16.44% | 3.18% | 2.89% |
9 town | 50.66% | 35.16% | 10.58% | 9.04% | 1.47% |
10 town | 63.13% | 26.28% | 20.68% | 5.26% | 5.02% |
11 town | 54.78% | 39.63% | 13.84% | 12.21% | 2.67% |
12 town | 65.74% | 30.28% | 24.50% | 7.52% | 7.11% |
13 town | 58.30% | 42.76% | 16.87% | 15.11% | 4.01% |
14 town | 67.96% | 34.26% | 27.75% | 9.52% | 9.34% |
15 town | 60.87% | 46.01% | 19.66% | 17.42% | 5.34% |
16 town | 69.96% | 36.84% | 30.67% | 11.54% | 11.27% |
17 town | 62.91% | 48.50% | 22.38% | 20.42% | 6.69% |
18 town | 71.49% | 39.65% | 33.18% | 13.59% | 12.98% |
19 town | 64.58% | 50.71% | 24.63% | 22.58% | 8.12% |
20 town | 73.09% | 42.03% | 35.56% | 15.58% | 15.20% |
No lynching day 1
| 1 scum | 2 scum | 3 scum | 4 scum | 5 scum |
1 town | 0.00% | 0.00% | 0.00% | 0.00% | 0.00% |
2 town | 0.00% | 0.00% | 0.00% | 0.00% | 0.00% |
3 town | 33.33% | 0.00% | 0.00% | 0.00% | 0.00% |
4 town | 24.99% | 13.44% | 0.00% | 0.00% | 0.00% |
5 town | 46.86% | 8.36% | 5.85% | 0.00% | 0.00% |
6 town | 37.49% | 22.75% | 3.09% | 2.49% | 0.00% |
7 town | 54.05% | 15.52% | 11.47% | 1.23% | 1.14% |
8 town | 45.34% | 29.96% | 6.85% | 5.63% | 0.52% |
9 town | 59.28% | 21.48% | 16.56% | 3.08% | 2.98% |
10 town | 50.32% | 35.08% | 10.42% | 9.12% | 1.47% |
11 town | 62.97% | 26.21% | 20.68% | 5.18% | 5.09% |
12 town | 54.82% | 39.30% | 13.94% | 12.22% | 2.63% |
13 town | 66.02% | 30.65% | 24.60% | 7.46% | 6.95% |
14 town | 58.18% | 42.88% | 16.98% | 15.04% | 3.92% |
15 town | 68.06% | 34.02% | 28.04% | 9.54% | 9.09% |
16 town | 60.56% | 45.69% | 19.70% | 17.73% | 5.36% |
17 town | 69.91% | 36.79% | 30.61% | 11.72% | 10.98% |
18 town | 62.90% | 48.81% | 22.44% | 19.94% | 6.78% |
19 town | 71.52% | 39.66% | 33.25% | 13.66% | 13.31% |
20 town | 64.69% | 50.86% | 24.79% | 22.52% | 8.12% |
The %s are the town's chance of winning.
Okay, what the hell, people? PlatinumAshes is town as fuck, right now. He's nearly as town as ivoryjones is. Am I actually the only one here that wasn't dumb enough to know that PA's vote on me was a freaking joke? Y'all need to grow a sense of humor!
You need to be voting psy_wombats right now! He's shady as fuck! I love how nobody noticed that he absolutely waffled on his reason for voting for me when I called him for being scum on intuition. He didn't even use my total lack of an explanation against me. That is not town psy! Not by a mile!
You need to be voting psy_wombats right now! He's shady as fuck! I love how nobody noticed that he absolutely waffled on his reason for voting for me when I called him for being scum on intuition. He didn't even use my total lack of an explanation against me. That is not town psy! Not by a mile!
Hrm, that list of statistics, I'm not sure what to make of it. As in, this confuses my scum read on Fomar.
OzzyTheOne
Hrm, that list of statistics, I'm not sure what to make of it. As in, this confuses my scum read on Fomar.
Why are you even scum reading him? He's a newbie! You're never going to get an accurate day one read on him.
VOTE FOR YOUR MAFIA FUTURE! VOTE PSY_WOMBATS!
AlaskanEmily
561
author=pianotm
Am I actually the only one here that wasn't dumb enough to know that PA's vote on me was a freaking joke? Y'all need to grow a sense of humor!
That has nothing to do with my vote.
CURRENT VOTECOUNT
PlatinumAshes (3):Pianotm, Liberty, Fomar, AlaskanEmily, Fomar
Psy_Wombats (2): Shinan, Pianotm
Pianotm (2):PlatinumAshes, PlatinumAshes, Psy_Wombats
Fomar (2):Liberty, Ivoryjones, Ozzy
Shinan (1): kittenfood
Tale (0):AlaskanEmily
Liberty (0):Fomar, PlatinumAshes
demonlord (0):Ivoryjones
No Lynch (1): Tale,Fomar
Not Voting: Oddrabbit, demonlord,
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PlatinumAshes (3):
Psy_Wombats (2): Shinan, Pianotm
Pianotm (2):
Fomar (2):
Shinan (1): kittenfood
Tale (0):
Liberty (0):
demonlord (0):
No Lynch (1): Tale,
Not Voting: Oddrabbit, demonlord,
Deadline is Monday Evening at 10PM EST. That's in about 50 hours. With 13 alive, it takes seven votes to execute.
Does anyone have a link to that little stopwatch widget we used to use. I can only find inferior versions that I can't embed now.
psy_wombats
13315
Numberslist is nulltell, I used to run that stuff all the time.
I would guess piano's being so aggressive because PA told him that being aggro read as townish haha
Also I don't think anyone's questioning whether PA's vote was a joke. It's the vote going the other direction (piano against PA) that I don't think was joking.
I would guess piano's being so aggressive because PA told him that being aggro read as townish haha
Also I don't think anyone's questioning whether PA's vote was a joke. It's the vote going the other direction (piano against PA) that I don't think was joking.
AlaskanEmilyauthor=pianotmThat has nothing to do with my vote.
Am I actually the only one here that wasn't dumb enough to know that PA's vote on me was a freaking joke? Y'all need to grow a sense of humor!
Oh, I know! You don't like him claiming hated and then saying anyone that doesn't claim it is scum. I'm just being melodramatic.
DUDE! Seriously. You all asked me why I thought psy was scum, I totally just said that it was his mojo based on a couple of posts that I didn't think sounded like him when he playing town, and he immediately responded by backpedaling on why he voted for me and then it took him nearly a day to explain himself.
How is that not scum to you?
AlaskanEmily
561
@Piano: It's not that I think Psy is definitely town. It's that I feel more strongly that PA is scum.
I searched for the site of the past timer that look like this. Website is no longer available.
I ended up using a countdown html template, I hope it's accurate. It's not a widget/ embedable though but here's a link anyway.
https://rpgmaker.net/media/content/users/67753/locker/countdown1.html
#Cancel
I ended up using a countdown html template, I hope it's accurate. It's not a widget/ embedable though but here's a link anyway.
https://rpgmaker.net/media/content/users/67753/locker/countdown1.html
#Cancel
I thought that there was someone before Pianotm who made a role claim, I realized that they were theoretically speaking.
I'm still not sure who to vote for. I'll make a decision on next morning or afternoon. (EST time zone) Anyway, G'night!
I'm still not sure who to vote for. I'll make a decision on next morning or afternoon. (EST time zone) Anyway, G'night!
Fomar0153
What do I need to respond to at the moment? Do I need to vote? I thought the day also ended after a certain time. Just incase then:
#lynch PlatinumAshes
Libby's reasoning makes sense to me, I think.
This post has been annoying me since Fomar posted it and I think I just realized why. Is this even real? Who says this? This just looks so fake! I am legit starting to see why people think Fomar is scum.
You realise he has no idea how to play, right? This is his first game. He's new. It's why I explained the basics earlier for him. He's new. And that has been stated more than a few times. It's kinda sus that you've ignored the many times that has been pointed out and are trying to push the idea that he's scum.
He reads as a confused newbie to me. You're jumping at shadows.
He reads as a confused newbie to me. You're jumping at shadows.
Liberty
You realise he has no idea how to play, right? This is his first game. He's new. It's why I explained the basics earlier for him. He's new. And that has been stated more than a few times.
This is how mafia works: the moderator chooses scum by rolling a damned dice or writing a random number generator or finding one on Google. You're not scum-reading Fomar, but a lot of people are, none of which justifies you acting like a jerk to anyone scum-hunting him. In fact, what's even shadier is that you're actually going out of your way to stop people scumhunting him using veiled insults and threats of counter-scumhunts. "He's new!" is not a defense. It's a deflection. In fact, that there are so many newbies in this game significantly increases the chances that one of them is scum, which I think you know and are willfully ignoring, which it seems you are either overlooking or willfully ignoring. I think you need to explain that, because I am scum reading you equally as hard as I'm scum-reading psy.
