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Hmm what does this say..
Of course it doesn't hold up almost 15 years later...but back then, it changed the way rpgs were done. It was the best in those days because there was nothing to compare it to. All the other game companies were given 2 choices...adapt and build upon what FF7 started or go bankrupt.
Worst videogame character.
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Steiner's okay. He's not my favorite (That goes to Vivi), but he's decent. I hate Freya, though. No idea why.
Same. I think it may be due to her look and boring background/personality.
Let's discuss...Suikoden!
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Here's how I describe Suikoden.
Woman: Hi there, and welcome to our port side town. I'm joining your team.
Sailor: This storm is fierce. I'm coming with ya on yer adventure.
Dog: Woof! Joining.
Guard: I have to defend the king! But I'm a star, so I'm joining you.
Prostitute: Hey there, sugar. You want some loving? And while you're at it, I'm joining your team.
King: Up north is a bridge. I'm joining your team.
That sums it up nicely. I think.
Translation: "I've never played Suikoden."
Let's discuss...Suikoden!
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I figured you'd bring that up. You get to make choices for the main characters dialogue, i.e. "Victory" in Suikoden 1 and 2. To be accused of murder and the only dialogue choice is "..." is terrible.post=151720
I am unsure how people can complain about Hero 4's lack of expression/action, when Hero 2 is much more of a criminal in that regard. Whereas McDohl and Hero5 at least give the impression that they're reacting to their environment, Hero2 amounts to little more than a punching bag. From Nanami, to Jowy, to Shu, to even Viktor, Hero2 is, quite literally in some instances, dragged along for the ride. He's used and manipulated constantly by whoever wants to use him.
This is, of course, the deadly pitfall of using a silent protagonist. Rather than using the hero as its intended purpose -- that is, to draw out the qualities of the other characters with dialogue, backgrounds, and such -- he becomes an empty, shallow husk of nothing. A player fills in the blanks with what they think.
To wit: Hero 2 is rarely found without his overbearing sister. Of course, we learn how overbearing (and obnoxious) she is in her own right. Nanami being tethered to Hero 2 serves absolutely no purpose whatsoever, and contributes absolutely nothing to the character of Hero 2.
Whereas when Hero 4 gets exiled, Tal, Paula, Kenneth, or Jewel stow away on his boat for the ride. Regardless of who actually comes along, you learn, right from the getgo, that these are Hero 4's most loyal friends; that they'd be willing to exile themselves with complete uncertainty.
This is why McDohl, Hero4 and Hero5 work as protagonists, and Hero2 doesn't. The 3 bring out the character in others; whereas Hero2 doesn't.
Additionally, the "..." choice has existed through all the Suikoden games with a silent protagonist. To start selectively caring is... well, still amusing.
So it's selectively caring when the "..." makes no sense to the plot? That's quite a reach.
Suikoden 1 - "Young master, how are you feeling today?"
Tir - "..."
"I understand, young master. That rune can be quite a burden."
Suikoden 4 - "Lazlo, did you *murder*
Glen Cott
Lazlo - "..."
Fail.
Let's discuss...Suikoden!
Okay, question...which strategist is your personal favorite? Which one was the best at their job?
Personal favorite: Shu. I liked his growth as a person and personality wise, he's a lot like me.
Best: Albert Silverberg. He screwed everyone in S3 and then after he achieved all of his goals, he decides to give Caeser some much needed help.
Personal favorite: Shu. I liked his growth as a person and personality wise, he's a lot like me.
Best: Albert Silverberg. He screwed everyone in S3 and then after he achieved all of his goals, he decides to give Caeser some much needed help.
Let's discuss...Suikoden!
Let's discuss...Suikoden!
post=151683post=151678Yeah, unlike all those other Suikoden games with... silent protagonists....
Suikoden 4: "Lazlo, you've just been accused of murder since you were the last person around when he died. What do you have to say for yourself? Can you explain what really happened?"
Lazlo - "..."
That makes sense.
Very amusing how you selectively start to dislike them though.
I figured you'd bring that up. You get to make choices for the main characters dialogue, i.e. "Victory" in Suikoden 1 and 2. To be accused of murder and the only dialogue choice is "..." is terrible.
Bizarro Superman, indeed.
Let's discuss...Suikoden!
Suikoden 4: "Lazlo, you've just been accused of murder since you were the last person around when he died. What do you have to say for yourself? Can you explain what really happened?"
Lazlo - "..."
That makes sense.
Lazlo - "..."
That makes sense.
Let's discuss...Suikoden!
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What are you guys talking about? 4 was awesome. It had some of the best costume designs I've seen.
It's Vaan with a shirt and shorts. How hetero.














